Anytbody else thinks Mayweather stops Marquez ?

I've had this feeling for about a month Floyd stops him late on.

I just think the weight will be too big of a jump for Marquez and he has been hurt several times before by fighters that aren't as good as Floyd. Mayweather just hits so accurate and I can see all them shots taking there toll on Marquez.

Also Mayweather wants to prove a point, he wants to be back with a bang. Everybody is high on Pacquiao right now. Come Saturday that is going to change, Floyd will make it change.

I'm going to the bookies later to put money on a Floyd stoppage.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

I've had this feeling for about a month Floyd stops him late on.

I just think the weight will be too big of a jump for Marquez and he has been hurt several times before by fighters that aren't as good as Floyd. Mayweather just hits so accurate and I can see all them shots taking there toll on Marquez.

Also Mayweather wants to prove a point, he wants to be back with a bang. Everybody is high on Pacquiao right now. Come Saturday that is going to change, Floyd will make it change.

I'm going to the bookies later to put money on a Floyd stoppage.

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I do yes, not a formality but if I had to go for any result it would be Floyd tko late, he has all the advantages, I watched the Marquez - Cassamayor and Marquez-Diaz fights agan last week and even though he won both by ko he was never comfortable in any of the fights and that was at 135, I think Floyd will have his own way he holds all the advantages, im going for Marquez corner stopping it in the 10th.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

I've had this feeling for about a month Floyd stops him late on.

I just think the weight will be too big of a jump for Marquez and he has been hurt several times before by fighters that aren't as good as Floyd. Mayweather just hits so accurate and I can see all them shots taking there toll on Marquez.

Also Mayweather wants to prove a point, he wants to be back with a bang. Everybody is high on Pacquiao right now. Come Saturday that is going to change, Floyd will make it change.

I'm going to the bookies later to put money on a Floyd stoppage.

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I think he can, but whether he will or not I don't know. Floyd isn't a big hitter & wears gloves that restrict this further, so a decision is more likely. I think he might stop Marquez based on the fact Diaz hurt Marquez a few times & Mayweather definitely hits harder than him.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

I've had this feeling for about a month Floyd stops him late on.

I just think the weight will be too big of a jump for Marquez and he has been hurt several times before by fighters that aren't as good as Floyd. Mayweather just hits so accurate and I can see all them shots taking there toll on Marquez.

Also Mayweather wants to prove a point, he wants to be back with a bang. Everybody is high on Pacquiao right now. Come Saturday that is going to change, Floyd will make it change.

I'm going to the bookies later to put money on a Floyd stoppage.

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I think he can, but whether he will or not I don't know. Floyd isn't a big hitter & wears gloves that restrict this further, so a decision is more likely. I think he might stop Marquez based on the fact Diaz hurt Marquez a few times & Mayweather definitely hits harder than him.

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He isnt't a big hitter no. But the accumulation and speed of his punches just wears you down.

i think the favourite outcome is indeed a late mayweather stoppage

this wont be a hatton-pac blowout as floyd likes to get a feel of the fight before he takes control. Marquez has to dominate early on and worry floyd hoping that eventually mayweather begins to trade more which will suit JMM down to the ground.

But floyd is just so good at countering with his own unique flurrys everytime marq will try and come in and land a few floyds gonna be catching him square on the chin.

mayweather in 10-12 seems to be the obvious conclusion

I think its possible and have leaned that way at times during the buildup but I look at it like this, the guy's never been stopped. I have a bit of a hard time predicting a stoppage cause of that. He's been hurt but never stopped and he recovers quickly and always knows what to do when hurt because he's been hurt before. Heart, smarts, and good recuperative powers. While Floyd's a good finisher cause of his speed he's not a throw caution to the wind type and if he does come out looking for a KO that could possibly get him into trouble.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

I think its possible and have leaned that way at times during the buildup but I look at it like this, the guy's never been stopped. I have a bit of a hard time predicting a stoppage cause of that. He's been hurt but never stopped and he recovers quickly and always knows what to do when hurt because he's been hurt before. Heart, smarts, and good recuperative powers. While Floyd's a good finisher cause of his speed he's not a throw caution to the wind type and if he does come out looking for a KO that could possibly get him into trouble.

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the general concensous is that it`ll be a hatton esque slow, pre-planned destruction of marquez

no he wont come out blazing....but if the moment is their later on in the fight and JMMs legs start to go then naturally floyd is gonna look to finish him off!!

I think one of the reasons Floyd chose him is because he thinks he can stop him. It will get one up on Pac, which will bode well for him in their fight.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I think one of the reasons Floyd chose him is because he thinks he can stop him. It will get one up on Pac, which will bode well for him in their fight.

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I agree, I think he plans to 1 up Pac by sparking JMM or comprehensively outbox him to leave little doubt or controversy. I am anticipating a 12 round chess match that I will enjoy, but a stoppage would be fantastic and a surprise.

I have been salivating for 5 years waiting to see another destruction like that of Gatti, because Floyd is that good when he opens up. I know JMM is far from Gatti but Floyd is really dynamic and capable.

I like to think Floyd got those huge paydays(Baldo, DLH, Hatton) and protected his 0 enough, now I think he wants to storm through JMM and open up more when he faces Pac, Mosley or Cotto

I'm on the flip side for this one.

Mayweather is about looking good and desperately wants to look good against Marquez so he will be in a better position in viewer's eyes for match ups against who ever and that P4P status as well as on the bargaining table. It's all about the Money for Mayweather. To do that he has to out class Marquez with speed and accuracy and knock him out. That desire and sense of urgency will cause Mayweather to take risks. Against Marquez this is a dangerous attitude to have.

Now, I don't think Mayweather will underestimate Marquez when he starts getting hit so it's a pretty fair bet he won't make change ups to his style like Sugar Ray Leonard did with Roberto Duran and stand flat footed. He'll abandoned any notion of knocking out Marquez and revert to his traditional style to beat him on points without getting hit.

What I predict is Marquez is going to out work Mayweather and even though Mayweather has a high connect percentage, he won't out connect Marquez. Marquez wins a UD or SD. We might see some desperation in the last two or three rounds in Mayweather's corner and that will be the only time we might see the fight as less of a chess match.

I think Mayweather punishes Marquez more and more as the fight goes on and his corner pull him out around 9/10 round.

Marquez is gonna struggle with Floyds accuracy he wont get to many chances to counter Floyd cause he isnt gonna miss you that often.

I dunno, I just don't see PBF stopping Marquez. Floyd is a measured, methodical fighter who won't go storming in; it took him 10 rounds to finish Hatton. Now, Marquez won't hang his chin out half as much as Hatton and both may be cautious for the first few rounds.

As much as it pains in to say it, I think the size disparity will cause PBF to win a comfortable UD but I hope Marquez can at least hurt him once.

Mayweather may very well do a number on JMM, but JMM will never be out of the fight and may perhaps come from behind to win this. I think as smart and as tough as JMM is and with him coming UP in weight and Floyd going DOWN in weight, I wouldn't be surprised if JMM sparked Floyd out!

JMM may go down early and often, but he'll be around at the finish!

We could see a couple different outcomes of this fight, some mirroring the following (in bold are the ones I think are most likely):

Chavez-Taylor
Chavez-Mayweather
Chavez-Whittaker
Mayweather-Castillo I or II
Mayweather-Hatton
Mayweather-De la Hoya
Mayweather-Corrales

Only way I see him stopping him is on many cuts.Mayweather knows sizewise its all in his favor,he wants JMMs name with showdown looming with the new p4p#1 Manny.But I think Marquez wins,so what do I know.

I think Mayweather wears Marquez down and the fight gets stopped in the last few rounds. I can't see him dealing with the accuracy of Floyd's punches, it could turn out to be a long night for Marquez

I see it being a carbon copy of Mayweather-Hatton. Mayweather having control for the majority of the fight, but JMM not giving up and keep steaming forward, with Mayweather eventually opening up and dominating in the late rounds, forcing a stoppage.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I think one of the reasons Floyd chose him is because he thinks he can stop him. It will get one up on Pac, which will bode well for him in their fight.

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I agree, I think he plans to 1 up Pac by sparking JMM or comprehensively outbox him to leave little doubt or controversy. I am anticipating a 12 round chess match that I will enjoy, but a stoppage would be fantastic and a surprise.

I have been salivating for 5 years waiting to see another destruction like that of Gatti, because Floyd is that good when he opens up. I know JMM is far from Gatti but Floyd is really dynamic and capable.

I like to think Floyd got those huge paydays(Baldo, DLH, Hatton) and protected his 0 enough, now I think he wants to storm through JMM and open up more when he faces Pac, Mosley or Cotto

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I think he NEEDS to stop him to make a statement.

If he beats Marquez anything like he beat Gatti then it's 100% certain Marquez was way too small for the weight. He's far too good to get beaten like that by anyone.

I like this fight because they are two great fighters, but Floyd has a serious size advantage. If they were level weights Floyd would still be the favourite yet Marquez is basically giving him 10 pounds.

Still.. you never know :cool:

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Originally Posted by JoeyUK

I see it being a carbon copy of Mayweather-Hatton. Mayweather having control for the majority of the fight, but JMM not giving up and keep steaming forward, with Mayweather eventually opening up and dominating in the late rounds, forcing a stoppage.

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Marquez is way smarter than Hatton, I can't see him going after Floyd at all unless he hurts him.

Im not sure if he does stops JMM but i think he needs to so he can make a statement.

Mayweather is the bigger guy but I was thinking of the following and I don't think Mayweather will stop Marquez..

ON PAPER..

It took Mayweather 10 rounds to stop Ricky Hatton. Marquez is 10 times better at defence and countering than Hatton and I believe hits harder and has 10 times the chin.

Pacquiao KO'd Hatton in 2. He knocked Hatton out cold. Pacquiao landed lots of these shots on Marquez, three of them put him on his bum in the first round and he still managed to pull back a draw. I think Pac hits much harder than Mayweather and matches Mayweather for hand speed.

I think Marquez is being very under rated before this fight and I don't believe what I saw on the 24/7 show that showed him being very agressive towards his sparring partners. Marquez is very crafty himself. Something is telling me this isn't going to be the ussual one sided Mayweather punching bag fight everybody thinks it will be.

I will watch this fight, not with excitement, but with a great deal of interest.

Mayweather will use his added weight to his advantage. JMM puts on a brave fight but will loose. I hope he does see the fight out to the decision being made.

Mayweather doesn't really want to face Pacquiao (coming from a PBF fan). PAC is a stylistic nightmare for Floyd. The fact he's a southpaw creates a lot of problems for Floyd. I believe Mayweather is a superior fighter but he's just gonna have problems with a fast southpaw. What does he do?

He goes and dominates the guy that almost beat Pacquiao but is taylor made for his style. Marquez is orthodox and slower than him: perfect. By destroying JMM (a guy that gave PAC fits), he will make a strong statement without having to take the risk against Manny. I might be wrong but I think this is what he's thinking. If I'm correct he'll probably stop Marquez. While in most fights he's lazy, I doubt he will this time.

Floyd will win, I don't really know if it's going to be by UD, KO, or TKO, but he will win. Every advantage is in Floyds favor. Younger, Bigger, stronger, heavier, less wear and tear, faster in hand and foot, and more boxing skills. The only disadvantage Floyd has is ring rust.

Being a fan of both...I say that this may very well be a FOTY caliber bout...but NO...I don't see him blowing out Marquez like he did Hatton.

Hatton & Marquez are miles apart & Marquez is always adjusting, always shifting, always INTELLIGENTLY countering, & can punch on the backfoot. He aint gonna be there to be hit & he sure as shit aint gonna pull his forehead into the buckle.

That being said...I think Floyd'll beat him.

I love both fighters...& I'ma pick Marquez on heart alone...but I still say Floyd wins & that's using the head.

No he won't knock out Marquez...least I hope not.

I still say Marquez will surprise many of you.

I've noticed that when Mayweather fights someone whom he feels physically superior to, he tends to go on attack mode as early as possible. Thus, I predict that Mayweather will try to take out Marquez as soon as the bell rings (I am not saying Mayweather will go at Marquez a la Hatton vs. Manny).

However, this approach could be tricky because Marquez is a counterpuncher and this style that Mayweather will use (in my opinion) may leave him open to counters moreso than ever. Still, I don't think Marquez will carry his power to that weight. Most likely a mid late round ko for Mayweather.

I've been getting a feeling about a Marquez surprise too Wacko.

He's just too damn good to dismiss in this fight as some posters have done - He's just as smart as Floyd is in that ring and if he comes well prepared on the night, then who knows?

Advantage Floyd - but that always leaves room for surprises. Don't count Marquez out

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Originally Posted by Althugz

I've been getting a feeling about a Marquez surprise too Wacko.

He's just too damn good to dismiss in this fight as some posters have done - He's just as smart as Floyd is in that ring and if he comes well prepared on the night, then who knows?

Advantage Floyd - but that always leaves room for surprises. Don't count Marquez out

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Exactly. I'll rep ya when I can good brother.

Totally agree...Marquez's abilities are totally under rated & I think that it says alot that he's the Mexi that's outlasted all the rest.

That muh's a Mexi-can all the way...& I honestly think that he can beat Floyd...but I just don't think he will.

That being said...if he can...now's the time. I think that he's preped well & that he may be able to carry the weight a little better now than against Casa & Diaz.

I'm hoping against hope that he can pull it out...even though Floyd's one of my FOAT's & I wanted to see him retire undefeated...but losing & avenging a loss is even better.

I'd love to see him lose, win, & then fight/stop Pacquiao.

But that's just me! ;D

It would be a huge statement for Mayweather to make!

But I just don't see it happening, although its not beyond the bounds of possibility. I think Floyd will test the waters early to see what Marquez has got at this higher weight. Once he discovers how tough the Mexican is gonna be to beat I think he'll revert to his counter punching, defensive best. This may in fact lead to Marquez getting hammered down the stretch, but I think Marquez' pride & warrior instincts won't let him fall & carry him to the final bell.

this is a good fight ... marquez will win in a split decision ... there will no KO or stoppage ...

...it would be nice for Floyd to lose just so that he figures he has to fight and beat EVERYONE to redeem himself.

I think Marquez is smart, he's solid, and hell he stopped Juan Diaz who had never been stopped before. I think he'll work on Floyd solidly and wear him down to a point where he's going to look a little more average that usual. Marquez is a complete fighter and he's not at the tail end of his career like De la Hoya.


The only way I would be shocked at the outcome of this fight is if Floyd stops Marquez.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

...it would be nice for Floyd to lose just so that he figures he has to fight and beat EVERYONE to redeem himself.

I think Marquez is smart, he's solid, and hell he stopped Juan Diaz who had never been stopped before. I think he'll work on Floyd solidly and wear him down to a point where he's going to look a little more average that usual. Marquez is a complete fighter and he's not at the tail end of his career like De la Hoya.


The only way I would be shocked at the outcome of this fight is if Floyd stops Marquez.

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Fukk me. You made a post without mentioning "David Haye" and "Steve Bunce". And I thought it was groupie love.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

I've had this feeling for about a month Floyd stops him late on.

I just think the weight will be too big of a jump for Marquez and he has been hurt several times before by fighters that aren't as good as Floyd. Mayweather just hits so accurate and I can see all them shots taking there toll on Marquez.

Also Mayweather wants to prove a point, he wants to be back with a bang. Everybody is high on Pacquiao right now. Come Saturday that is going to change, Floyd will make it change.

I'm going to the bookies later to put money on a Floyd stoppage.

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Smart move. I say Floyd devours him. Mid-late round stoppage. Maybe round 5 or 6. It wouldn't surprise me if it was earlier.

Why did Floyd chose to fight Marquez when there were other bigger fights out there besides Manny? He could have fought Shane, Cotto, or Pwill, all of which would have been bigger fights for more money. The reason he chose Marquez is because a fight with Marquez gives him the chance to fight much more offensively.

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...it would be nice for Floyd to lose just so that he figures he has to fight and beat EVERYONE to redeem himself.

I think Marquez is smart, he's solid, and hell he stopped Juan Diaz who had never been stopped before. I think he'll work on Floyd solidly and wear him down to a point where he's going to look a little more average that usual. Marquez is a complete fighter and he's not at the tail end of his career like De la Hoya.


The only way I would be shocked at the outcome of this fight is if Floyd stops Marquez.

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Fukk me. You made a post without mentioning "David Haye" and "Steve Bunce". And I thought it was groupie love.

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SHUT IT BITCH, WHAT DO U NO

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Haha another groupie. Get out the forum asshole.

Who knows? The ring rust from Mayweather may be a telling factor, especially early on. Marquez is a great fighter and although Mayweather has a weight advantage it might not be much of a factor - even more so because Mayweather will be moving down in weight, again after a 20 month lay-off.

Marquez is a tough guy to face for a comeback fight.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Mayweather may very well do a number on JMM, but JMM will never be out of the fight and may perhaps come from behind to win this. I think as smart and as tough as JMM is and with him coming UP in weight and Floyd going DOWN in weight, I wouldn't be surprised if JMM sparked Floyd out!

JMM may go down early and often, but he'll be around at the finish!

We could see a couple different outcomes of this fight, some mirroring the following (in bold are the ones I think are most likely):

Chavez-Taylor
Chavez-Mayweather
Chavez-Whittaker
Mayweather-Castillo I or II
Mayweather-Hatton
Mayweather-De la Hoya
Mayweather-Corrales

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Marquez doesn't hit nearly as hard as JCC and floyd won't get hit anywhere near as many times as meldrick...

although i do think that because it took a few rounds for floyd to get used to the smaller hatton's quickness, who btw way is no where near as sharp as marquez...given that two year layoff plus the caliber of fighter marquez is, I think he will either score a flash knockdown, or hit floyd a lot in the early rounds. It will be closer than most people think. Only way i see floyd stopping JMM is if he keep him on the end of a stiff jab and straights in the early going. This fight could resemble how tom brady looked the first three and a half quarters of the past monday night game.

Brady was rusty with a year layoff but in crunch time and a little luck he found his grove and pulled it out...

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Originally Posted by Lyle

...it would be nice for Floyd to lose just so that he figures he has to fight and beat EVERYONE to redeem himself.

I think Marquez is smart, he's solid, and hell he stopped Juan Diaz who had never been stopped before. I think he'll work on Floyd solidly and wear him down to a point where he's going to look a little more average that usual. Marquez is a complete fighter and he's not at the tail end of his career like De la Hoya.


The only way I would be shocked at the outcome of this fight is if Floyd stops Marquez.

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very true a floyd win will just cement his status as the best. In a worst case scenario floyd beats marquez and cotto beats pac leaving the division completely lop sided with floyd out on his own at the top of the tree

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Originally Posted by Lyle

...it would be nice for Floyd to lose just so that he figures he has to fight and beat EVERYONE to redeem himself.

I think Marquez is smart, he's solid, and hell he stopped Juan Diaz who had never been stopped before. I think he'll work on Floyd solidly and wear him down to a point where he's going to look a little more average that usual. Marquez is a complete fighter and he's not at the tail end of his career like De la Hoya.


The only way I would be shocked at the outcome of this fight is if Floyd stops Marquez.

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very true a floyd win will just cement his status as the best. In a worst case scenario floyd beats marquez and cotto beats pac leaving the division completely lop sided with floyd out on his own at the top of the tree

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If Cotto beats Pacquiao, how is Floyd out on his own in this division? Not really related. Cotto beat Clottey, Mosley, Quintana, and Pacquiao. His only loss was questionable. Mayweather hasn't beat one true elite welterweight in a long while. Clearly, he would be the best P4P.

No way PBF stops JMM. He can't even stop Judah!!!!

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Originally Posted by Pacdbest2

No way PBF stops JMM. He can't even stop Judah!!!!

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You brain surgeon:rolleyes: I guess Floyd busting him up and hurting him bad only to get punched in the balls and in the back of the head by a judah who was looking for a way out