Floyd refused to be weighed on the same day weigh in?

I was reading somewhere else that Marquez weighed about 148 on the day of the fight and that Floyd had actually refused to be weighed. Is there any credence to this?

Floyd did look huge compared to Marquez, so he could have been weighing something like 155 pounds and up by my reckoning. It wasn't a fair fight in the slightest and I really think Floyd took the piss big time by not coming in at 144.

Marquez would likely have lost anyway, but that is not the point. Marquez is a great warrior and would never refuse to fight, so I really think Mayweather used the weight just to make sure Marquez had nothing to offer.

A lot of people have paid a lot of money to watch a good fight, so shame on Floyd for the way he has carried on. He has disrespected both Marquez and the fans. At least Marquez gets some compensation...what about the fans though? Short changed as always.

I agree there was already the weight issue at the catch-weight of 144 then Marquez comes in at 142 and Floyd at 146.. very disappointing to hear. I agree with you although Marquez would have likely lost i hate when a boxer does not meet what was agreed on. It look like he never managed to meet the weight limit since i can't recall Floyd not making weight.. ever. I don't know what to make of him not wanting to weigh in.. maybe he was at 152 or something.. perhaps even more seeing as JMM was 142 and came in at 148.

I dont know about fans being shortchanged. all I heard was Floyd getting a fair amount of cheers when his hand was raised in victory

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

I dont know about fans being shortchanged. all I heard was Floyd getting a fair amount of cheers when his hand was raised in victory

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It actually did look a little bit like David and Goliath to me. I would love to know what Floyd weighed in there, but it seems we will never know. :-\

And here is the full post fight interview. Mayweather refused to answer any questions about the weight issue. The man is happy to take the 10million dollars plus PPV, but refuses to offer any integrity whatsover. It's no wonder Kellerman started talking over him at the end. Floyd simply refuses to say anything meaningful. :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFAip_V4-pc

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Originally Posted by miles

And here is the full post fight interview. Mayweather refused to answer any questions about the weight issue. The man is happy to take the 10million dollars plus PPV, but refuses to offer any integrity whatsover. It's no wonder Kellerman started talking over him at the end. Floyd simply refuses to say anything meaningful. :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFAip_V4-pc

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even if it was a BS answer, the scales in camp were off, it would have meant something a little more than I refuse to answer the question, which makes people suspect it was deliberate.

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

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Originally Posted by miles

And here is the full post fight interview. Mayweather refused to answer any questions about the weight issue. The man is happy to take the 10million dollars plus PPV, but refuses to offer any integrity whatsover. It's no wonder Kellerman started talking over him at the end. Floyd simply refuses to say anything meaningful. :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFAip_V4-pc

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even if it was a BS answer, the scales in camp were off, it would have meant something a little more than I refuse to answer the question, which makes people suspect it was deliberate.

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Exactly, it was obviously premeditated. Plus the refusal to get weighed today and on top of that the evasion in this interview. Floyd is as guilty as charged. God knows what he weighed in the ring.....Mayweather looks like a selfish prick as always, but Marquez walks away with his pride intact. He wasn't given a fair shake of the dice at all.

Don't get me wrong, Floyd is a brilliant fighter -probably the best in my lifetime, but... despite all the natural advantages he still strives to gain even more of an advantage: There was the size of the ring against Hatton and making a point to the ref about fighting inside, not to mention fighting him at Welter -he'd have beating Ricky under any circumstance!

But do you know the one thing that annoys me the most? Not only does he fight blown up Featherweights and Super-Featherweights, but we always hear the same reasoning, "Floyd started at Super-Feather" Yeah, but he moved up in his early to mid twenties as his body grew; Marquez et al are moving up in their thirties!

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Originally Posted by GuyIncognito76

But do you know the one thing that annoys me the most? Not only does he fight blown up Featherweights and Super-Featherweights, but we always hear the same reasoning, "Floyd started at Super-Feather" Yeah, but he moved up in his early to mid twenties as his body grew; Marquez et al are moving up in their thirties!

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That really boils my piss!!! You couldn't have summed it up better! My dislike of 'money' has grown so much more this weekend!

Gobbing-off is part and parcel of pro boxing, most people dislike him for his mouth (I happen to think PBF is amusing with this trash talk though) I dislike it but accept it is gonna happen. What I don't like is dragging people to different weights and then bulking up himself over the weight!

If that was a title fight would he weigh 2 pounds over!? Would he f&*k!!!!! Because he would be stripped!


PBF wanted a comeback victory and he did everything he could to ensure he got it before even stepping into the ring!

The whole principle of boxing is about 2 evenly-matched men going for it in the ring! Spoils to the victor, 'Money' has once again proven what his motivation is, the moniker in this case is very apt:(

I feel sorry for JMM, he was always on a losing dime in this fight!

This taken from Fight News:

On Friday, Mayweather had to cough up $600,000 after failing to make the bout weight of 144 pounds by coming in at 146. Marquez came in weighing 142 pounds – 12 pounds more than his usual 130 pound fight weight – and the difference was evident from the opening bell. Mayweather refused to weigh himself again before the fight so the world will never really know how much of a size advantage he had.


Quotes from Marquez:

“I’m a little upset but I tried my best. The weight was a big problem. I think there was a 20 pound difference in weight,” Marquez said after the fight. “I’m not trying to make excuses. I came to fight twelve hard rounds and a lot of people thought I was going to get knocked out.”

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

I dont know about fans being shortchanged. all I heard was Floyd getting a fair amount of cheers when his hand was raised in victory

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There were 10X more cheers when Max Kellerman mentioned Shane Mosely's name.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

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I dont know about fans being shortchanged. all I heard was Floyd getting a fair amount of cheers when his hand was raised in victory

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There were 10X more cheers when Max Kellerman mentioned Shane Mosely's name.

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And there were a LOT of boos for Mosley when him & Hopkins tried to take over proceedings. Part of that was that the Marquez fans were leaving en masse mainly just leaving Mayweather fans.

The BEST part about this fight? The END of it! when Mosley punked out Mayweather and had him stuttering like the punk he is lol.. Other than that it was a boring mismatch! I give him zero respect for this win. He couldnt even knock Marquez out despite being much bigger?

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

I dont know about fans being shortchanged. all I heard was Floyd getting a fair amount of cheers when his hand was raised in victory

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There were 10X more cheers when Max Kellerman mentioned Shane Mosely's name.

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And there were a LOT of boos for Mosley when him & Hopkins tried to take over proceedings. Part of that was that the Marquez fans were leaving en masse mainly just leaving Mayweather fans.

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It was mainly Hopkins causing the shiit. Mosely shook his hand and just said we want a shot. Hopkins then started mouthing off behind him. Look at Floyd's facial expressions when Hopkins gets involved. It was biitchy from both sides. Mayweather's entourage started pushing round and mouthing off also.

Considering that it is through HBO and the boxing public at large that Floyd is able to command such a high purse and a percentage of the PPV, I think it is only right that Floyd answer the serious questions pertaining to his weight and allegations surounding this fight.

He has shown himself to be far from honest, duplicitous in fact. And he is quite content to ignore questions and say that it is all in the past. The boxing public should be well aware of what they might be getting before going to see Mayweather in action or splashing out on a Mayweather PPV.

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Originally Posted by miles

I was reading somewhere else that Marquez weighed about 148 on the day of the fight and that Floyd had actually refused to be weighed. Is there any credence to this?

Floyd did look huge compared to Marquez, so he could have been weighing something like 155 pounds and up by my reckoning.

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Floyd also blew off the normal Friday interview meeting with the HBO announcers, and then he blew off the prefight locker room interview.

So I'm not sure that he refused to get weighed unofficially by HBO because he was trying to hide his weight. It might have just been that he was screwing with HBO at every opportunity.

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Originally Posted by miles

Considering that it is through HBO and the boxing public at large that Floyd is able to command such a high purse and a percentage of the PPV, I think it is only right that Floyd answer the serious questions pertaining to his weight and allegations surounding this fight.

He has shown himself to be far from honest, duplicitous in fact. And he is quite content to ignore questions and say that it is all in the past. The boxing public should be well aware of what they might be getting before going to see Mayweather in action or splashing out on a Mayweather PPV.

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In the post-fight press conference, Mayweather actually did answer the question. He said that he realized he wasn't going to be able to make 144 2 days before the weigh-in, but that he still tried to make 145 on the day of the fight by running on the treadmill in the morning, & that on his scales he was 145.2. I suspect him not answering it post-fight was him taking it that Kellerman was asking that as an accusation.

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Originally Posted by miles

And here is the full post fight interview. Mayweather refused to answer any questions about the weight issue. The man is happy to take the 10million dollars plus PPV, but refuses to offer any integrity whatsover. It's no wonder Kellerman started talking over him at the end. Floyd simply refuses to say anything meaningful. :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFAip_V4-pc

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Kellerman was a total prick letting that GBP ambush happen. GBP and Kellerman both managed to make Floyd look classy last night, something that outside of a boxing ring should be impossible. Floyd reacted exactly how he should have done.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

I dont know about fans being shortchanged. all I heard was Floyd getting a fair amount of cheers when his hand was raised in victory

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There were 10X more cheers when Max Kellerman mentioned Shane Mosely's name.

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I'm guessing the ticket sales were so bad that the majority of the fans were Hispanic members of Las Vegas's casino and hotel employees, people the promoters could trust to turn up if given a free ticket and guaranteed to cheer anything Marquez did during the fight.

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Originally Posted by miles

And here is the full post fight interview. Mayweather refused to answer any questions about the weight issue. The man is happy to take the 10million dollars plus PPV, but refuses to offer any integrity whatsover. It's no wonder Kellerman started talking over him at the end. Floyd simply refuses to say anything meaningful. :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFAip_V4-pc

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Kellerman was a total prick letting that GBP ambush happen. GBP and Kellerman both managed to make Floyd look classy last night, something that outside of a boxing ring should be impossible. Floyd reacted exactly how he should have done.

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I agree with you. I don't like PBF but I think he was the one who, surprisingly, actually handle the postfight interview with any class. Mosley did try to but he got emotional but B-Hop needs to do his job better than what he did at that point. DLH would've handled it much better. Kellerman had little control. If it was my promotional company I would've been embarassed.

I don't think Floyd was classy at all. Rambling on about sponsors and 7 digit deals and then on being asked about the 600,000 dollor penalty he suddenly doesn't want to talk about money? That is some nonsense right there. Kellerman was right in challenging Mayweather about the weight because it is what a lot of the people watching would like to know as well.

The post fight shoving got a bit much, but I saw little that was classy prior to that whatsoever. Floyd was being typically evasive and arrogant and unwilling to share the truth about the weight issue in front of the audience that had coughed up money to watch a good fight.

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Originally Posted by miles

I don't think Floyd was classy at all. Rambling on about sponsors and 7 digit deals and then on being asked about the 600,000 dollor penalty he suddenly doesn't want to talk about money? That is some nonsense right there. Kellerman was right in challenging Mayweather about the weight because it is what a lot of the people watching would like to know as well.

The post fight shoving got a bit much, but I saw little that was classy prior to that whatsoever. Floyd was being typically evasive and arrogant and unwilling to share the truth about the weight issue in front of the audience that had coughed up money to watch a good fight.

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Miles, I refer you AGAIN to the post-fight presser where he does answer the question. It's on skysports & host of other internet sports sites. Then also try to understand that you've just finished a fight, you're euphoric & Kellerman pretty much goes straight into the weight. I don't like Merchant but he wouldn't have done that, he would have let Mayweather say his piece about the fight & THEN ask him. That's good interview technique, something Kellerman for all his knowledge of the sport just doesn't have.

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Originally Posted by miles

I was reading somewhere else that Marquez weighed about 148 on the day of the fight and that Floyd had actually refused to be weighed. Is there any credence to this?

Floyd did look huge compared to Marquez, so he could have been weighing something like 155 pounds and up by my reckoning.

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Floyd also blew off the normal Friday interview meeting with the HBO announcers, and then he blew off the prefight locker room interview.

So I'm not sure that he refused to get weighed unofficially by HBO because he was trying to hide his weight. It might have just been that he was screwing with HBO at every opportunity.

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Meh, considering the circumstances, pretty unlikely.

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Originally Posted by miles

I don't think Floyd was classy at all. Rambling on about sponsors and 7 digit deals and then on being asked about the 600,000 dollor penalty he suddenly doesn't want to talk about money? That is some nonsense right there. Kellerman was right in challenging Mayweather about the weight because it is what a lot of the people watching would like to know as well.

The post fight shoving got a bit much, but I saw little that was classy prior to that whatsoever. Floyd was being typically evasive and arrogant and unwilling to share the truth about the weight issue in front of the audience that had coughed up money to watch a good fight.

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Miles, I refer you AGAIN to the post-fight presser where he does answer the question. It's on skysports & host of other internet sports sites. Then also try to understand that you've just finished a fight, you're euphoric & Kellerman pretty much goes straight into the weight. I don't like Merchant but he wouldn't have done that, he would have let Mayweather say his piece about the fight & THEN ask him. That's good interview technique, something Kellerman for all his knowledge of the sport just doesn't have.

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I will have a look for it on You Tube a bit later. Mayweather had the opportunity to talk about it earlier at the pre fight interview, but as Sweet Pea has pointed out he refused. With that he also refused to be weighed on the day of the fight. It is customary for fighters to do this and I don't recall Mayweather refusing ever before. Looking at the size difference there is no doubt that Mayweather might have gained a good 10 pounds overnight. He looked like a very big WW to me. There is no doubt he has grown bigger in his 2 years off and the weight doesn't fall off so easily.

I thought Kellerman lost it a bit when Floyd started rambling about sponsors and commercials and just decided "to hell with it" let's talk about the weight. Admittedly, he could have done it in a more subtle manner, but it needed to be asked and Floyd was just not willing to comply anyway. He might have decided to explain later but there and prior to the fight he gave no explanations which would have been more appropriate as those watching the fight could have then heard.

Anyways, I will go and look for that conference stuff.

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

I don't like Merchant but he wouldn't have done that, he would have let Mayweather say his piece about the fight & THEN ask him. That's good interview technique, something Kellerman for all his knowledge of the sport just doesn't have.

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I agree exactly. Floyd might well have answered but he wants to say his piece.* Instead of letting Floyd get through it, Max starts rolling his eyes and talking over Floyd.

That is inexcusable and inexplicable behavior from an interviewer. Anyone who has ever been taught how to properly handle an interview knows that you have to respect your subject first. You don't throw questions at him and get mad when he doesn't answer them directly -- you get him talking first and THEN figure out how to steer him toward what you want him to talk about.

*It is fascinating to me that people seem most aggravated with Floyd as he is being his most gracious. He is THANKING the people who have helped him get to where he is, he is CREDITING Juan Manuel for being a great fighter. People are mad that he mentioned Reebok? I'm pretty sure Lampley and Buffer mentioned Tecate and Southwest airlines a couple of times. Jeez Louise.

Max asked about a relevant issue.And he started interview with big praise.He did exactly what Merchant did when a fighter started veering into commercials and self promotion...called them on it and shut it down !At times Merchant went after Hopkins like he owed him money and with borderline contempt in interviews let alone during the actual fight.He was abrasive and dug for answers,not always pretty but he's not wearing gloves..