...when all the euphoria is gone, let's talk...

All the reactions now reminds me when:

-Pac TKO'd Oscar - he was invincible;

-Pac KO'd Hatton - he cemented his invincible status; and now,

-Mayweather totally shuts out Marquez - he's back and he's
invincible...

...and that...

-Pac is better than Floyd because he totally shut out and even TKO's dela
Hoya which Floyd couldn't;

-Pac is infinitely better than Floyd when he KO's Hatton much quicker and
with just one shot at the weight where Hatton is at his best - Pac now
(then) can beat Mayweather; and now,

-Mayweather will wreck Pac real bad because he just totally shut out a
man who Pac couldn't decisively beat...

all which I thought then and now was thoroughly naive or simplistic.

Therefore;D, we'll have a more rational discussion when the all the dusts has settled and all the post-fight euphoria gone.

...in the meantime, I'm ready to give back Floyd his P4P #1 status - that's how fair I am, at least until the Cotto fight. We'll see how Pac does tnere...

I'm sure I speak for many people here when I say this.


SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT PAC. NOT EVERY THREAD NEEDS TO HAVE HIS NAME MENTIONED IN IT.

relax man. its just the way it is

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

I'm sure I speak for many people here when I say this.


SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT PAC. NOT EVERY THREAD NEEDS TO HAVE HIS NAME MENTIONED IN IT.

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WELL SAID!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

I'm sure I speak for many people here when I say this.


SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT PAC. NOT EVERY THREAD NEEDS TO HAVE HIS NAME MENTIONED IN IT.

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:o:o:o

Personally I don't percieve this as being all that meaningful a victory for Floyd. He beat a pumped up lightweight and still reneged on making weight. It's anyones guess what he weighed in the ring, but he sure looked far bigger than Marquez!

With all those advantages, the questionable matchmaking to begin with and the shady antics...I cannot help but downplay the significance of this win.

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

I'm sure I speak for many people here when I say this.


SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT PAC. NOT EVERY THREAD NEEDS TO HAVE HIS NAME MENTIONED IN IT.

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:o:o:o

Personally I don't percieve this as being all that meaningful a victory for Floyd. He beat a pumped up lightweight and still reneged on making weight. It's anyones guess what he weighed in the ring, but he sure looked far bigger than Marquez!

With all those advantages, the questionable matchmaking to begin with and the shady antics...I cannot help but downplay the significance of this win.

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did I overreact?;D

Check what weight pac fought dela hoya at and then check what weight mayweather had fought him at and i think youll find your dela hoya argument null and void ;)

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Originally Posted by snakey

Check what weight pac fought dela hoya at and then check what weight mayweather had fought him at and i think youll find your dela hoya argument null and void ;)

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If you're expecting reason to come in to this you're looking in the wrong place sonny jim:D

C'mon, Mizzy, you know better than to bait me with one of your anti-pac ramblings. But I don't really mind if you keep on trying coz I won't take the bite anyway. I'm cool...

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Check what weight pac fought dela hoya at and then check what weight mayweather had fought him at and i think youll find your dela hoya argument null and void ;)

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I can answer that with reason but I'll resist the temptation 'cause I think it's not the right time...


...Actually fellas, there a several things I can nitpick about the fight today, but as I've said, I'll wait 'till when the dust settle and the euphoria is gone.' Gotta go for now. I'll be back.

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...in the meantime, I'm ready to give back Floyd his P4P #1 status - that's how fair I am, at least until the Cotto fight. We'll see how Pac does tnere...

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What a prestigious award... I'm sure Mayweather will be thrilled :rolleyes:

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C'mon, Mizzy, you know better than to bait me with one of your anti-pac ramblings. But I don't really mind if you keep on trying coz I won't take the bite anyway. I'm cool...

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Check what weight pac fought dela hoya at and then check what weight mayweather had fought him at and i think youll find your dela hoya argument null and void ;)

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I can answer that with reason but I'll resist the temptation 'cause I think it's not the right time...


...Actually fellas, there a several things I can nitpick about the fight today, but as I've said, I'll wait 'till when the dust settle and the euphoria is gone.' Gotta go for now. I'll be back.

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Mayweather will be a strong fav against Pac, lets not get carried away just yet there is the small matter of Cotto first for Pac.

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Originally Posted by snakey

Check what weight pac fought dela hoya at and then check what weight mayweather had fought him at and i think youll find your dela hoya argument null and void ;)

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I know... they make a big fuss over floyd not drying up by 2 pounds but they won't acknowledge the affect drying up a stupid amount more had on oscar...

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Originally Posted by miles

:o:o:o

Personally I don't percieve this as being all that meaningful a victory for Floyd. He beat a pumped up lightweight and still reneged on making weight. It's anyones guess what he weighed in the ring, but he sure looked far bigger than Marquez!

With all those advantages, the questionable matchmaking to begin with and the shady antics...I cannot help but downplay the significance of this win.

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So true! PBF is the ultimate self-publicist, ducked the weight question with Kellerman!

Marquez made the weight and trained right, Im guessing that PBF knew all along he was gonna come in over and trained to come in over! Should be reviewed and classed a no-contest imo:mad:

Hello everyone!
Sure Marquez is a pumped up super featherweight. He gained few pounds (rather fat than muscles), he's probably not at his peak at the age of 35 and few wars in the ring behind him but we should give Mayweather his credit. Marquez still is one of the best guys in the business, he's a fabulous fighter, great warrior and he was just helpless.
Mayweather was the bigger guy in the ring, he had height and reach advantage but I believe that it was speed and skills that made the difference. Floyd was much faster, he's defense was so good that he seemed just untouchable whereas Marquez couldn't do anything about Floyd's hand speed and punches coming from different angels.
Marquez wasn't the biggest challange Mayweather could pick but I regard that fight as a tune up before fighting guys that could be a really threat to Mayweather's unblemished record.

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

I'm sure I speak for many people here when I say this.


SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT PAC. NOT EVERY THREAD NEEDS TO HAVE HIS NAME MENTIONED IN IT.

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Nice post Missy. :p

REP4U!

Wait a second, fellas, Mizzy's got me fooled - I thought I said some nice things about Pac here, foolish me. So guys, don't be fooled, just ignore Mizzy 'cause she (let me know if I'm addressing you incorrectly) over-reacts like that everytime she hears the name Pac, real or imagined;D. I usually just react here with an impish smile on my cheek everytime she does that:). If you read carefully, actually I didn't say anything pac-fanatic-ish here. And to Snakey, if you read carefully, I said that those were 'naive and simplistic' assumptions. Hope that clear things up...

Who the fuck is 'mizzy' and why the fuck are you still talking about pacman?

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Check what weight pac fought dela hoya at and then check what weight mayweather had fought him at and i think youll find your dela hoya argument null and void ;)

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Not quite.

It wasn't a stand alone point. It was a point arguing against the theory that ''because Mayweather shut-out Marquez, he is better than Pacquiao''.

It's the same broken logic that you have just critised.

As far as im concerned, it kinda puts em on an even keel.

Alright folks, I think I've upset some Mayweather fans here so I think I'll just shut up for now and let them enjoy their victory, though to be honest my heart went for a little man fighting a galant but futile fight. A win is a win, and a good one at that, so congratulations. Enjoy your victory while it lasts...

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Who the fuck is 'mizzy' and why the fuck are you still talking about pacman?

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It's like kicking a crackhead, they keep coming back for more.

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Who the fuck is 'mizzy' and why the fuck are you still talking about pacman?

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It's like kicking a crackhead, they keep coming back for more.

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LOL, it's like having a 3 year old going on and on, but why, but why, but why.....If Haye wins the HW title does that make Pac the best ever ever ever in the whole wide world.

AND....if Pac died would the world stop turning.....ZZzzzz It's as old as Moses.

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Originally Posted by pacfan

All the reactions now reminds me when:

-Pac TKO'd Oscar - he was invincible;

-Pac KO'd Hatton - he cemented his invincible status; and now,

-Mayweather totally shuts out Marquez - he's back and he's
invincible...

...and that...

-Pac is better than Floyd because he totally shut out and even TKO's dela
Hoya which Floyd couldn't;

-Pac is infinitely better than Floyd when he KO's Hatton much quicker and
with just one shot at the weight where Hatton is at his best - Pac now
(then) can beat Mayweather; and now,

-Mayweather will wreck Pac real bad because he just totally shut out a
man who Pac couldn't decisively beat...

all which I thought then and now was thoroughly naive or simplistic.

Therefore;D, we'll have a more rational discussion when the all the dusts has settled and all the post-fight euphoria gone.

...in the meantime, I'm ready to give back Floyd his P4P #1 status - that's how fair I am, at least until the Cotto fight. We'll see how Pac does tnere...

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Is your mouth permanently attached to PACMAN'S penis ?

I just wanted to to let you all knowthat the picture in Missy's Avatar is actually a pciture of her. Fact :cool:

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I just wanted to to let you all knowthat the picture in Missy's Avatar is actually a pciture of her. Fact :cool:

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actually by boobs are better.

































And so is my beard.

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I just wanted to to let you all knowthat the picture in Missy's Avatar is actually a pciture of her. Fact :cool:

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actually by boobs are better.

































And so is my beard.

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You told me you shaved your beard :-\

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Originally Posted by miles

:o:o:o

Personally I don't percieve this as being all that meaningful a victory for Floyd. He beat a pumped up lightweight and still reneged on making weight. It's anyones guess what he weighed in the ring, but he sure looked far bigger than Marquez!

With all those advantages, the questionable matchmaking to begin with and the shady antics...I cannot help but downplay the significance of this win.

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So true! PBF is the ultimate self-publicist, ducked the weight question with Kellerman!

Marquez made the weight and trained right, Im guessing that PBF knew all along he was gonna come in over and trained to come in over! Should be reviewed and classed a no-contest imo:mad:

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No Contest? I'll give you 600,000 reasons this shouldn't be a no-contest.

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

I'm sure I speak for many people here when I say this.


SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT PAC. NOT EVERY THREAD NEEDS TO HAVE HIS NAME MENTIONED IN IT.

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I second, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th.....That