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Pacquiao - De La Hoya
Mayweather - Marquez
Both wins against guys who had no business fighting at the weights against them. These fights showed how great Pac and PBF are with Pac's pummeling of De La Hoya and Mayweather's making Marquez look like he was a sparring partner. IMO Manny's victory was much moe impressive as he fought DLH at a weight that hehad never fought at before and taht he finished the fight by KO.
I don't think a big man beating up on a much smaller man is very impressive at all. Pacs win on the other hand was a bit of a shocker. Nobody expected such a one sided beat down.
So, Pacs win was far more impressive.
Pac beating and stopping Oscar was impressive to start with until it was revealed Oscar had made a massive mistake in coming down to Welter for the 1st time in about 9 years and had to be rehydrated via intra venus just before the fight. Mayweather had already beaten Oscar himself at Oscars comfortable weight 154lbs where he was regarded as number 1 and WBC champ. And many feel Pac lost to Marquez both times where against Mayweather Marquez couldn't win a round let alone the fight so im going with Mayweather.
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Originally Posted by miles
So Pacquiao beating an Oscar De La Hoya that hadnt been Welterweight in 7 years and looked bad even against Stevie Forbes before even fighting Pacquiao and looked like a dead zombie and presented no threat whatsoever was more impressive then beating Marquez.
Pacquiao bulldozed an Oscar De La Hoya there to beat.
But Mayweather even though people thought the weight would be an issue.
it had NOTHING to do with him, outboxing, outdefensing and out timing Marquez.
Marquez landed about 75 punches against Floyd and Floyd landed at nearly 60 percent of all his punches and against a guy like Marquez thats impressive. Floyd did not "impose his weight" on Marquez he just beat him.
Floyds weight had nothing to do with the fact Marquez couldn't hit him and couldn't figure him out and couldn't dissect him. So Floyd's win is much more impressive imo.
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Originally Posted by MajestyQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
So Pacquiao beating an Oscar De La Hoya that hadnt been Welterweight in 7 years and looked bad even against Stevie Forbes before even fighting Pacquiao and looked like a dead zombie and presented no threat whatsoever was more impressive then beating Marquez.
Pacquiao bulldozed an Oscar De La Hoya there to beat.
But Mayweather even though people thought the weight would be an issue.
it had NOTHING to do with him, outboxing, outdefensing and out timing Marquez.
Marquez landed about 75 punches against Floyd and Floyd landed at nearly 60 percent of all his punches and against a guy like Marquez thats impressive. Floyd did not "impose his weight" on Marquez he just beat him.
Floyds weight had nothing to do with the fact Marquez couldn't hit him and couldn't figure him out and couldn't dissect him. So Floyd's win is much more impressive imo.
You must be easily impressed, since floyd had every advantage going into the fight.
The fact that Freddie Roach said the fight would never of happened if he thought De La Hoya was any kind of threat says it all. The fact that he actually said he didn't want to get paid if Pacquiao lost says even moreQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
where the hell did you find a blue eyed michael jackson?Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
So Pacquiao beating an Oscar De La Hoya that hadnt been Welterweight in 7 years and looked bad even against Stevie Forbes before even fighting Pacquiao and looked like a dead zombie and presented no threat whatsoever was more impressive then beating Marquez.
Pacquiao bulldozed an Oscar De La Hoya there to beat.
But Mayweather even though people thought the weight would be an issue.
it had NOTHING to do with him, outboxing, outdefensing and out timing Marquez.
Marquez landed about 75 punches against Floyd and Floyd landed at nearly 60 percent of all his punches and against a guy like Marquez thats impressive. Floyd did not "impose his weight" on Marquez he just beat him.
Floyds weight had nothing to do with the fact Marquez couldn't hit him and couldn't figure him out and couldn't dissect him. So Floyd's win is much more impressive imo.
yeah, Pac's fight against DLH definately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Truth
What's so impressive about the PfP no1 beating up a 36 year old bloke who is in a lower weight division?
I like PBF and rated his performance yesterday but it wasn't anything above what I was expecting.
Look how stripped down Oscar came into it too, More props to Oscar for being man enough to go right through with it as well.
Ha, Floyd, protecting the 0 at all costs these days. "I dont want to get on the scales"!
Come on really!
Were you bitching when Mosley moved up from 135 to fight De La Hoya at 147? Or when Hopkins went from 160 to fight Tarver at 175?Quote:
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Originally Posted by MajestyQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
So Pacquiao beating an Oscar De La Hoya that hadnt been Welterweight in 7 years and looked bad even against Stevie Forbes before even fighting Pacquiao and looked like a dead zombie and presented no threat whatsoever was more impressive then beating Marquez.
Pacquiao bulldozed an Oscar De La Hoya there to beat.
But Mayweather even though people thought the weight would be an issue.
it had NOTHING to do with him, outboxing, outdefensing and out timing Marquez.
Marquez landed about 75 punches against Floyd and Floyd landed at nearly 60 percent of all his punches and against a guy like Marquez thats impressive. Floyd did not "impose his weight" on Marquez he just beat him.
Floyds weight had nothing to do with the fact Marquez couldn't hit him and couldn't figure him out and couldn't dissect him. So Floyd's win is much more impressive imo.
You must be easily impressed, since floyd had every advantage going into the fight.
And Floyd had everything against him when he fought Oscar De La Hoya but people still didn't wanna give him credit and give Pacquiao more credit for beating a dead Oscar De La Hoya where everything was in Pacquiao's favor that night(whether you thought so before or after the fight doesn't change the fact it's reality)
So either you're selective about what impresses you or are just stubborn when it comes to Mayweather.
well we can always fucked about reasons and excuses but base on the fights itself pac's is definitely more impressive, especially going up 2 weight division like what marquez did.
Oscar hadnt been at Welterweight in 7 years.
But Marquez hasnt been at Welterweight for 35 years.
Oscar and Pac were just about the same weight at fight night.
Mayweather and Marquez looked like David and Goliath.
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Originally Posted by MajestyQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
So Pacquiao beating an Oscar De La Hoya that hadnt been Welterweight in 7 years and looked bad even against Stevie Forbes before even fighting Pacquiao and looked like a dead zombie and presented no threat whatsoever was more impressive then beating Marquez.
Pacquiao bulldozed an Oscar De La Hoya there to beat.
But Mayweather even though people thought the weight would be an issue.
it had NOTHING to do with him, outboxing, outdefensing and out timing Marquez.
Marquez landed about 75 punches against Floyd and Floyd landed at nearly 60 percent of all his punches and against a guy like Marquez thats impressive. Floyd did not "impose his weight" on Marquez he just beat him.
Floyds weight had nothing to do with the fact Marquez couldn't hit him and couldn't figure him out and couldn't dissect him. So Floyd's win is much more impressive imo.
Perhaps you need to watch it again. Floyd was very confident about his size advantage and uses it. He lunges when he throws his left hook and it has his weight behind it. He also reminded me of Roberto Duran the way he used his body and shoulders in close. At one point he did this so hard it looked like Marquez was thrown back 4 or 5 feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestySo Pacquiao beating an Oscar De La Hoya that hadnt been Welterweight in 7 years and looked bad even against Stevie Forbes before even fighting Pacquiao and looked like a dead zombie and presented no threat whatsoever was more impressive then beating Marquez.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Pacquiao bulldozed an Oscar De La Hoya there to beat.
But Mayweather even though people thought the weight would be an issue.
it had NOTHING to do with him, outboxing, outdefensing and out timing Marquez.
Marquez landed about 75 punches against Floyd and Floyd landed at nearly 60 percent of all his punches and against a guy like Marquez thats impressive. Floyd did not "impose his weight" on Marquez he just beat him.
Floyds weight had nothing to do with the fact Marquez couldn't hit him and couldn't figure him out and couldn't dissect him. So Floyd's win is much more impressive imo.
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What's impressive about this fight is Marquez went up two weight divisions and Mayweather weighed at least 10lbs to who knows maybe 20lbs more in the ring and got though it without being knocked out. What gets me is the commission didn't bother to force Mayweather to step on the scales. But that is just wishful thinking that they'd be a little more concerned about Marquez's safety.
I was wondering the same thing. In fact finding a blue eye Michael Jackson is more impressive than Pac fighting Oscar or Floyd fighting JMM.Quote:
Originally Posted by hfahrenheitwhere the hell did you find a blue eyed michael jackson?Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
So Pacquiao beating an Oscar De La Hoya that hadnt been Welterweight in 7 years and looked bad even against Stevie Forbes before even fighting Pacquiao and looked like a dead zombie and presented no threat whatsoever was more impressive then beating Marquez.
Pacquiao bulldozed an Oscar De La Hoya there to beat.
But Mayweather even though people thought the weight would be an issue.
it had NOTHING to do with him, outboxing, outdefensing and out timing Marquez.
Marquez landed about 75 punches against Floyd and Floyd landed at nearly 60 percent of all his punches and against a guy like Marquez thats impressive. Floyd did not "impose his weight" on Marquez he just beat him.
Floyds weight had nothing to do with the fact Marquez couldn't hit him and couldn't figure him out and couldn't dissect him. So Floyd's win is much more impressive imo.
So you're saying Floyd "hitting" Marquez was imposing and pressing his weight on him? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyPerhaps you need to watch it again. Floyd was very confident about his size advantage and uses it. He lunges when he throws his left hook and it has his weight behind it. He also reminded me of Roberto Duran the way he used his body and shoulders in close. At one point he did this so hard it looked like Marquez was thrown back 4 or 5 feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestySo Pacquiao beating an Oscar De La Hoya that hadnt been Welterweight in 7 years and looked bad even against Stevie Forbes before even fighting Pacquiao and looked like a dead zombie and presented no threat whatsoever was more impressive then beating Marquez.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Pacquiao bulldozed an Oscar De La Hoya there to beat.
But Mayweather even though people thought the weight would be an issue.
it had NOTHING to do with him, outboxing, outdefensing and out timing Marquez.
Marquez landed about 75 punches against Floyd and Floyd landed at nearly 60 percent of all his punches and against a guy like Marquez thats impressive. Floyd did not "impose his weight" on Marquez he just beat him.
Floyds weight had nothing to do with the fact Marquez couldn't hit him and couldn't figure him out and couldn't dissect him. So Floyd's win is much more impressive imo.
This is a working link even though you can read it.
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What's impressive about this fight is Marquez went up two weight divisions and Mayweather weighed at least 10lbs to who knows maybe 20lbs more in the ring and got though it without being knocked out. What gets me is the commission didn't bother to force Mayweather to step on the scales. But that is just wishful thinking that they'd be a little more concerned about Marquez's safety.
What I wrote was clear!Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestySo you're saying Floyd "hitting" Marquez was imposing and pressing his weight on him? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyPerhaps you need to watch it again. Floyd was very confident about his size advantage and uses it. He lunges when he throws his left hook and it has his weight behind it. He also reminded me of Roberto Duran the way he used his body and shoulders in close. At one point he did this so hard it looked like Marquez was thrown back 4 or 5 feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
This is a working link even though you can read it.
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What's impressive about this fight is Marquez went up two weight divisions and Mayweather weighed at least 10lbs to who knows maybe 20lbs more in the ring and got though it without being knocked out. What gets me is the commission didn't bother to force Mayweather to step on the scales. But that is just wishful thinking that they'd be a little more concerned about Marquez's safety.
Not a very good comparison because both fights weren't necessarily huge triumphs. Sure, Pac beat a bigger fighter, but DLH didn't have any business fighting at 147 either. Mayweather was looking for a safe opponent for his return to boxing and Marquez was perfect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Truth