lets be honest whoever gets in the ring with floyd is gonna start heavy underdog. We all saw the amazing performance he put on saturday night but whats next for floyds march towards greatness??
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lets be honest whoever gets in the ring with floyd is gonna start heavy underdog. We all saw the amazing performance he put on saturday night but whats next for floyds march towards greatness??
Ive gone with Cotto vs Pac winner but i wouldnt mind Mayweather vs Mosley or Berto but Williams won't happen he will stay at middleweight now i think after his fight with Pavlik win or lose.
I think he should fight the Cotto/Pacman winner then fight Mosley to decide who is the welterweight champ, assuming Mosley wins his next fight which he should going by his last outing against Margarito.
I went with Mosley because that's the fight I most want to see, but the Pacquiao/ Cotto winner is a close second
I just feel Mosley brings the greater challenge!
i dont think pac beats floyd at all. cotto sure as hell wont. Mosley is who i picked. but i think paul williams has a better chance but hes too big now.
Mayweather v Pacquiao needs to happen.
I had to pick Shane. No real reason for this silliness of weight jumping to continue. If Marquez had naturally grown into a welterweight it would have been different but I am sick of all this petty bickering over a few pounds when the guys are not going to be any where near the contracted weight when they step into the ring. Let PBF fight welterweights and PAC fight lightweights or junior welters. I am just tired of this. Just my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Jody
Shane Mosley
My main reason is because he is a true welterweight.
My second is because Mayweather said he wasnt scared of him and then Mosley said to make the fight.
Should be great.
Floyd aint fighting no one any time soon. So like him let's just sit back and let some real hopeful emerge out of all these upcoming fights and then let him pick williams. Not a huge fan of either guy but he's the only one right now with even a shot imo. Lol i still remember people thinking margo could beat floyd...funny how the "floyd slayers" change from week to week.
winner of pac-cotto.
I'd like to see him fight either Mosley or the Pacquiao/Cotto winner.
He should fight Shane, he will struggle against him.
No chance Mayweather fights Berto right now. He fights for the biggest money and as of right now Berto wouldn't bring anything!
Williams or Mosley....sO WE CAN GET RID OF HIM JUST AS FAST AS HE RETURNED
Who should mayweather fight next? I vote Mosley.
But, we all know the Pac/Mayweather is the biggest money fight.
Pac/Cotto - winner is where the bigger purse for Mayweather is and more likely.
I think Mosley is the fight boxing fans still want to see. (When we look at who is Mayweather's biggest challenge at welterweight) And Williams is the guy we want to see if he can really beat because of his size advantage making Mayweather the underdog.
Mayweather will wait for Pacquiao because that is his money fight and Maywether thinks Pacquiao is not as big a threat to his 0.
I have to go with Pacquiao. I think he will beat Cotto without a lot of problems. I think he is on a winning streak with Roach in his corner.
It will take a combination of them both to have a chance of beating Mayweather. Judging on his last performance it will be very difficult.
A true welterweight would be a start.
it doesnt matter who Floyd fights next, when he dominates like he always does, people will come up with excuses. Floyd cant win because nobody is at where he is at.
if he wins Cotto, he should have took Margarito
if he wins Margarito, he should have took Mosley
if he wins Mosley, we will get the "maybe Mosley was past it/a shot fighter/too old" argument
if he wins Pacman it will be the weight argument
If you ask me he should fight Pacman for the big money and then look into moving up a weight
If he wins against true welterweights a1 fighters close to their prime then there are no excuses, but as it stands now there are a lot of questions.
i dont understand how. he has dominated 40 times in the ring. are you saying Hatton wasnt in his prime? come on....
A Floyd Mayweather parrot....Quote:
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Bloody hell....sure is.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyA Floyd Mayweather parrot....Quote:
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I say a Mosley fight is the most relevant and necessary fight as of now. If it doesn't happen then it will be a shame for boxing. Not that Mayweather gives one shit about boxing these days.
I picked Mosley, for the same reasons others have stated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tysonbruno
If he really wanted to silence all the critics he would fight Williams. I disagree about Williams staying at MW. I guarantee, he'd find a way to make a fight with PBF happen if presented with the opportunity!!! Maybe at 154...?
However, he'll have to beat Pavlik in spectacular fashion to make it marketable.
Mosley, Pacquiao, Cotto... It don't matter. Provided the fight happens WITHIN the next year... They'll all beat him.
And i NEVER bet against Mayweather :-\
I voted mosely, because it reminds me of the way Tarver was constantly hounding Roy Jones Jr. Except this time it will be a good fight no weight drained issues, Floyd isn't bored as Roy Jones stated before his fights, Shane isn't a one punch pony.
I think shane's best chance is having NAZ in his corner the first real strategic trainer of his career. While I still believe floyd will hit shane a lot of times, it will be to see how floyd reacts to a man that isn't going to fold when the pressure is on. I say that to say this: people like to bring up shane's performances against 154 ex MWs such as mayorga, wright. But I remember scoring 3 of 4 four rounds for Judah when he faced floyd, not to mention he dropped floyd, albeit a balance shot. But floyd hasn't gone anywhere near a skillful fighter that was physically peaked at 147 since the judah fight. Had judah not been a complete hothead he physically had the skills to beat floyd or give him a very difficult fight. This is where Shane picks up the slack in the mental area.
haha call me a Mayweather parrot all you like! but those are definitley the arguments you will come up with when he beats his next opponent! as for Mosley, he would even be in the frame if he hadnt surprisingly but comprihensivley beat Margarito...even then he wouldnt have got a look in, but he stuck his fucking beak in on Saturday!
So why exactly hasn't he fought any of these guys already ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Bert
How long has he been a Welterweight?
Why does mayweather only fight people past their prime, or smaller than him. IMO he is scared of the comp. After judah gave him da business for a few rounds he hasnt fought any boxer near juda's skill level. I guarantee he will not fight shane or paul because he knows there is a great chance he will lose. He would fight cotto cause he is to slow and he will fight pac cause he is smaller than him. Floyd will take no chances. He is now where near pfp imo.
I went for the winner of Pac Cotto and am hoping Cotto destroys Pacquiao to give Mayweather no choice but to fight him.
Mayweather should fight Mosley in December and the winner fights the winner of Pac V Cotto in April!
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Yes no can beat him, because he never actually slug. He gives one straight then clinch, use his elbow to separate then throw cheap shots again, use his glove and shoulder to hide his chin then run.
Then do this over and over again.
I love to see PBF bangged with Cotto or Pac toe-to-toe and see what he's made of.
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Paul Williams, beat this guy and NOBODY will critisize PBF ever again. Heck he could even retire for good and nobody should even dare critisize him as being in the top 10 ATG's.
But you know that won't happen. Just ask yourself which would be the bigger payday and go down from there. The Mosley-Cotto winner will give him the most money and he won't have a problem waiting until then. Then he'll consider a Mosley if he's still relevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
Why would he Bang with anyone? Thats not his game! Thats like saying Ichiro Suzuki isnt a good batter cos he dont slug home runs all the time.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Bert
Yes no can beat him, because he never actually slug. He gives one straight then clinch, use his elbow to separate then throw cheap shots again, use his glove and shoulder to hide his chin then run.
Then do this over and over again.
I love to see PBF bangged with Cotto or Pac toe-to-toe and see what he's made of.
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Why dont u say lets see Pac or Cotto try out box Floyd without throwing big punches and see how they go?
PBF has worked out a winning formula and is sticking with it, u cannot blame him for that.
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Originally Posted by eagleWhy would he Bang with anyone? Thats not his game! Thats like saying Ichiro Suzuki isnt a good batter cos he dont slug home runs all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by spadeQuote:
Originally Posted by Bert
Yes no can beat him, because he never actually slug. He gives one straight then clinch, use his elbow to separate then throw cheap shots again, use his glove and shoulder to hide his chin then run.
Then do this over and over again.
I love to see PBF bangged with Cotto or Pac toe-to-toe and see what he's made of.
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Why dont u say lets see Pac or Cotto try out box Floyd without throwing big punches and see how they go?
PBF has worked out a winning formula and is sticking with it, u cannot blame him for that.
He always play it safe, sometimes you have to show the world he can stand with anybody by not playing chicken. He always comes clean after the fight cause PBF has no guts sticking his chin.
Yes it's his game plan you may call it, but Hatton lost because he's to darn occupied chasing PBF and eager to KTFHO he lost focus.
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Originally Posted by eagleWhy would he Bang with anyone? Thats not his game! Thats like saying Ichiro Suzuki isnt a good batter cos he dont slug home runs all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by spade
Why dont u say lets see Pac or Cotto try out box Floyd without throwing big punches and see how they go?
PBF has worked out a winning formula and is sticking with it, u cannot blame him for that.
He always play it safe, sometimes you have to show the world he can stand with anybody by not playing chicken. He always comes clean after the fight cause PBF has no guts sticking his chin.
Yes it's his game plan you may call it, but Hatton lost because he's to darn occupied chasing PBF and eager to KTFHO he lost focus.
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Fuck off, Hatton lost the BOXING match because he isnt as good a BOXER as Floyd. He lost focus cos everytime he tried something he got punched in the face. Floyd would have beaten Hatton 99 times out of 100.
Floyd stood toe to toe with plenty of guys when he was fighting in the smaller divisions, if u cared to watch those fights. Do u even know he fought in lower divisions? As he moved up in weight he was mainly fighting guys with more power so had to box more. There is a difference between being chicken and being smart. Floyd is smart in the ring.
The sport is fucken boxing, not slugging or banging its boxing. The guys who win are generally the best boxers. There are guys who win fights through great defense, not everyone can be big punch KO artists. If u wanna see guys just throw hay makers go watch redneck tough man contests.
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Originally Posted by spadeQuote:
Originally Posted by eagle
He always play it safe, sometimes you have to show the world he can stand with anybody by not playing chicken. He always comes clean after the fight cause PBF has no guts sticking his chin.
Yes it's his game plan you may call it, but Hatton lost because he's to darn occupied chasing PBF and eager to KTFHO he lost focus.
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Fuck off, Hatton lost the BOXING match because he isnt as good a BOXER as Floyd. He lost focus cos everytime he tried something he got punched in the face. Floyd would have beaten Hatton 99 times out of 100.
Floyd stood toe to toe with plenty of guys when he was fighting in the smaller divisions, if u cared to watch those fights. Do u even know he fought in lower divisions? As he moved up in weight he was mainly fighting guys with more power so had to box more. There is a difference between being chicken and being smart. Floyd is smart in the ring.
The sport is fucken boxing, not slugging or banging its boxing. The guys who win are generally the best boxers. There are guys who win fights through great defense, not everyone can be big punch KO artists. If u wanna see guys just throw hay makers go watch redneck tough man contests.
I'm one of those who were never convinced he is great. Sugar Ray Leonard wont beat him at WW, even Duran will be frustrated with his antics and say "no mas", KO artist like Hearns will be chasing wind with PBF and lost.
But i can't rate him higher than the three i've mention.
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Have your just said u think he would beat all those 3 guys but u cant rate him higher? Hmm interesting logic. Just cos a guy isnt exciting doesnt mean he isnt great.Quote:
Originally Posted by spadeQuote:
Originally Posted by eagleQuote:
Originally Posted by spade
Fuck off, Hatton lost the BOXING match because he isnt as good a BOXER as Floyd. He lost focus cos everytime he tried something he got punched in the face. Floyd would have beaten Hatton 99 times out of 100.
Floyd stood toe to toe with plenty of guys when he was fighting in the smaller divisions, if u cared to watch those fights. Do u even know he fought in lower divisions? As he moved up in weight he was mainly fighting guys with more power so had to box more. There is a difference between being chicken and being smart. Floyd is smart in the ring.
The sport is fucken boxing, not slugging or banging its boxing. The guys who win are generally the best boxers. There are guys who win fights through great defense, not everyone can be big punch KO artists. If u wanna see guys just throw hay makers go watch redneck tough man contests.
I'm one of those who were never convinced he is great. Sugar Ray Leonard wont beat him at WW, even Duran will be frustrated with his antics and say "no mas", KO artist like Hearns will be chasing wind with PBF and lost.
But i can't rate him higher than the three i've mention.
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yeah, pbf could probably beat those greats but we'll never know, just like we'll never know if he can beat the best crop of fighters in his division coz he's never faced them.
Not yet anyway. How come everyone acts as tho he is a 6ft Welterweight who has never fought below that weight. His problem is he probably moved up too quick, should have hung around at 135-140 for longer and just moved up now. He isnt a natural Welter anymore than Pac is cos naturally they are the same size. I never hear anyone say Pac wont be a great til he fights a genuine welter. Its just Pac stayed at the lower weights longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKisser
In reality the only one of those 3 he should be mentioned with is Duran cos he was a similiar size, both Leonard and ?Hearns were much bigger guys.