Upon watching Rocky II, I noticed II things...

Upon watching Rocky II (for the 1st time ever!), I noticed II things...

1. As i guess a lot of you know... Rocky - usually a southpaw slugger - starts the fight as a right hander. Ol' Mick thought this would be a great idea as Apollo would of no doubt trained hard to beat a Left handed fighter. The same Left handed fighter Apollo had foolishly underrated in the 1st fight.

Upon confusing Apollo, the slick mover, with an orthodox approach. The intention was to then switch back to 'Southern' and lay the smack down on Creed.

It worked a charm.

Now... I could be reaching a little bit here but does anyone think that maybe one day, some 20 years ago a man called Marvin Hagler was going over his tapes of Sugar Ray Leonard in preparation of their upcoming fight and by chance came across this beauty and thought ''Ya, i'll start off right-handed, that'll confuse him good n proper. Then all I have to do is turn Southern and lay the smack down on that sissy''.

Off course, Marvin fighting righthanded didn't work at all! Infact all it did was allow a rusty Ray Leonard to settle in to the fight even quicker than even Ray Leonard himself would have imagined.

Like i say, i could be reaching but i have a feeling Marvin Hagler got caught watching to many Rocky Movies... :p





Oh, i almost forgot...

2. Roberto Duran plays Rocky's sparing parter ;)

Chow!

lol wtf.

in related news, I hear raging bull was a good movie.

If it was why Hagler changed stance then he regrets it to this day and he should kick Stallone in the balls for even suggesting it.

Got a idea for a new thread.

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Originally Posted by Jimboogie

Upon watching Rocky II (for the 1st time ever!), I noticed II things...

2. Roberto Duran plays Rocky's sparing parter.

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Yeah if you ever see some of Durans early fights he has Rocky on his robe when he fought Buchanan even his cornermens jackets said

"Rocky" Duran on them

lol... I know... a World Champion doesn't forget how to fight an orthodox fighter... It may throw him off for the couple of seconds it takes him to notice that the guy isn't standing southpaw, but that's all...

I read a little nugget of info on that switch to southpaw in Sly's book. Stallone was having a private bench pressing competition with Franco Columbu (Mr Universe) during filming and his right pec exploded, requiring a metal cable insert in the shoulder and 160 stitches. This happened before they could finish the end fight scene and Stallone could only really use his left arm for the time being, so had to use that southpaw switch to enable the movie to be finished.

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Originally Posted by Jimboogie

Upon watching Rocky II (for the 1st time ever!), I noticed II things...

1. As i guess a lot of you know... Rocky - usually a southpaw slugger - starts the fight as a right hander. Ol' Mick thought this would be a great idea as Apollo would of no doubt trained hard to beat a Left handed fighter. The same Left handed fighter Apollo had foolishly underrated in the 1st fight.

Upon confusing Apollo, the slick mover, with an orthodox approach. The intention was to then switch back to 'Southern' and lay the smack down on Creed.

It worked a charm.

Now... I could be reaching a little bit here but does anyone think that maybe one day, some 20 years ago a man called Marvin Hagler was going over his tapes of Sugar Ray Leonard in preparation of their upcoming fight and by chance came across this beauty and thought ''Ya, i'll start off right-handed, that'll confuse him good n proper. Then all I have to do is turn Southern and lay the smack down on that sissy''.

Off course, Marvin fighting righthanded didn't work at all! Infact all it did was allow a rusty Ray Leonard to settle in to the fight even quicker than even Ray Leonard himself would have imagined.

Like i say, i could be reaching but i have a feeling Marvin Hagler got caught watching to many Rocky Movies... :p





Oh, i almost forgot...

2. Roberto Duran plays Rocky's sparing parter ;)

Chow!

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You're not reaching a little bit, you're reaching a lot. No way would Hagler or the Petronelli bros base their tactics on a film which had shoddy boxing knowledge at best.

Oh & the Rocky films are all complete shit. Fact. ;D

It was only on watching it the other day that I noticed the numbers on Rocky's house DO add up to nine ;D

;D

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Originally Posted by Master

If it was why Hagler changed stance then he regrets it to this day and he should kick Stallone in the balls for even suggesting it.

Got a idea for a new thread.

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He doesn't have any. Too many steroids.

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

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Originally Posted by Jimboogie

Upon watching Rocky II (for the 1st time ever!), I noticed II things...

1. As i guess a lot of you know... Rocky - usually a southpaw slugger - starts the fight as a right hander. Ol' Mick thought this would be a great idea as Apollo would of no doubt trained hard to beat a Left handed fighter. The same Left handed fighter Apollo had foolishly underrated in the 1st fight.

Upon confusing Apollo, the slick mover, with an orthodox approach. The intention was to then switch back to 'Southern' and lay the smack down on Creed.

It worked a charm.

Now... I could be reaching a little bit here but does anyone think that maybe one day, some 20 years ago a man called Marvin Hagler was going over his tapes of Sugar Ray Leonard in preparation of their upcoming fight and by chance came across this beauty and thought ''Ya, i'll start off right-handed, that'll confuse him good n proper. Then all I have to do is turn Southern and lay the smack down on that sissy''.

Off course, Marvin fighting righthanded didn't work at all! Infact all it did was allow a rusty Ray Leonard to settle in to the fight even quicker than even Ray Leonard himself would have imagined.

Like i say, i could be reaching but i have a feeling Marvin Hagler got caught watching to many Rocky Movies... :p





Oh, i almost forgot...

2. Roberto Duran plays Rocky's sparing parter ;)

Chow!

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You're not reaching a little bit, you're reaching a lot. No way would Hagler or the Petronelli bros base their tactics on a film which had shoddy boxing knowledge at best.

Oh & the Rocky films are all complete shit. Fact. ;D

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The first one was good for sure but the rest were crap.....Hell in Rocky 3 in one of Rocky's flashback scenes after getting his ass handed to hi9m by Clubber Lang he is getting his ass kicked with the Red, White and blue trunks on that he doesnt get until another 40 min into the movie:D

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Originally Posted by Youngblood

lol wtf.

in related news, I hear raging bull was a good movie.

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Yes, yes it was.

I particularly enjoy the scene where he beats up his brother in front of his kids and then knockouts out his wife.

;D

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

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Originally Posted by Jimboogie

Upon watching Rocky II (for the 1st time ever!), I noticed II things...

1. As i guess a lot of you know... Rocky - usually a southpaw slugger - starts the fight as a right hander. Ol' Mick thought this would be a great idea as Apollo would of no doubt trained hard to beat a Left handed fighter. The same Left handed fighter Apollo had foolishly underrated in the 1st fight.

Upon confusing Apollo, the slick mover, with an orthodox approach. The intention was to then switch back to 'Southern' and lay the smack down on Creed.

It worked a charm.

Now... I could be reaching a little bit here but does anyone think that maybe one day, some 20 years ago a man called Marvin Hagler was going over his tapes of Sugar Ray Leonard in preparation of their upcoming fight and by chance came across this beauty and thought ''Ya, i'll start off right-handed, that'll confuse him good n proper. Then all I have to do is turn Southern and lay the smack down on that sissy''.

Off course, Marvin fighting righthanded didn't work at all! Infact all it did was allow a rusty Ray Leonard to settle in to the fight even quicker than even Ray Leonard himself would have imagined.

Like i say, i could be reaching but i have a feeling Marvin Hagler got caught watching to many Rocky Movies... :p





Oh, i almost forgot...

2. Roberto Duran plays Rocky's sparing parter ;)

Chow!

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You're not reaching a little bit, you're reaching a lot. No way would Hagler or the Petronelli bros base their tactics on a film which had shoddy boxing knowledge at best.

Oh & the Rocky films are all complete shit. Fact. ;D

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The first one was good for sure but the rest were crap.....Hell in Rocky 3 in one of Rocky's flashback scenes after getting his ass handed to hi9m by Clubber Lang he is getting his ass kicked with the Red, White and blue trunks on that he doesnt get until another 40 min into the movie:D

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I have quite a soft spot for the second one as well. The 3rd and 4th just seemed like different films entirely and not in a good way. Rocky 5 was pushing to get the feel of the first two but seemed forced and lacking. There were some nice touches in Rocky Balboa, but Stallone just looked so old in that. Hopefully that's it now! :p;D

Rocky 5 never existed, it never happened.:)

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

You're not reaching a little bit, you're reaching a lot. No way would Hagler or the Petronelli bros base their tactics on a film which had shoddy boxing knowledge at best.

Oh & the Rocky films are all complete shit. Fact. ;D

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The first one was good for sure but the rest were crap.....Hell in Rocky 3 in one of Rocky's flashback scenes after getting his ass handed to hi9m by Clubber Lang he is getting his ass kicked with the Red, White and blue trunks on that he doesnt get until another 40 min into the movie:D

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I have quite a soft spot for the second one as well. The 3rd and 4th just seemed like different films entirely and not in a good way. Rocky 5 was pushing to get the feel of the first two but seemed forced and lacking. There were some nice touches in Rocky Balboa, but Stallone just looked so old in that. Hopefully that's it now! :p;D

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To be honest I would have like Rocky Balboa better if he did not fight and they just made it something that showed how he ended up and maybe he got to hook up with Marie:-\

Rocky 5 was just insanely horrible

I had never noticed this before....it's definitely going to be my interesting fact next time I watch it with the boys, who aren't really boxing fans....found this youtube clip for anyone interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFG6D...layer_embedded

As for the films themselves, I really liked the first two, third is good, but not up there with the first two, and I love the fourth one, it was the only one I had on a VCR when I was a kid, so was the one that introduced me to the series. I usually watch Rocky V if I'm watching the films in sequence, and have only seen Rocky Balboa once, was entertaining but can't help thinking that if there were a Rocky 7, the brain damage would be even more visible.

His brain damage from Rocky 1 improved as the films went on, he got more intelligent.

Ha ha, what a funny, quality thread!

You never know, maybe subconsciously he did get the idea from Rocky, but I'm sure it wasn't new when Stallone used it.

Never knew bout Sly's exploding peck! That's some quality pub ammo.

The Rocky films are great for what they intended. I love em. 4,3,1,2 for me. 5 and the most recent one don't even count as Rocky films.

Didn't Sly and Hogan actually want to hurt each other?

The Rocky movies are completely unrealistic. The thing I like about them is that the guy has heart and "keeps pushing forward". Apart from that... nope

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The Rocky movies are completely unrealistic. The thing I like about them is that the guy has heart and "keeps pushing forward". Apart from that... nope

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I ALWAYS wanted to see Rocky get KTFO. I think the only one where I even vaguely rooted for him was the 5th film. At least Tarver apparently knocked Stallone out cold filming the 6th film, it cheers me to know at least off-camera Stallone caught one ;D

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The Rocky movies are completely unrealistic. The thing I like about them is that the guy has heart and "keeps pushing forward". Apart from that... nope

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I ALWAYS wanted to see Rocky get KTFO. I think the only one where I even vaguely rooted for him was the 5th film. At least Tarver apparently knocked Stallone out cold filming the 6th film, it cheers me to know at least off-camera Stallone caught one ;D

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i think he did get KTFO by Clubber Lang

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

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Originally Posted by Rocky Balboa

The Rocky movies are completely unrealistic. The thing I like about them is that the guy has heart and "keeps pushing forward". Apart from that... nope

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I ALWAYS wanted to see Rocky get KTFO. I think the only one where I even vaguely rooted for him was the 5th film. At least Tarver apparently knocked Stallone out cold filming the 6th film, it cheers me to know at least off-camera Stallone caught one ;D

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i think he did get KTFO by Clubber Lang

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Yeah, but then they ruined it by him making a comeback & winning. If instead Rocky had retired, then made a comeback against a gimme opponent only to get beat again, before developing a major drink problem & getting sent to Graterford Penn for beatin on Adrian, then I would have been happy ;)

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

I ALWAYS wanted to see Rocky get KTFO. I think the only one where I even vaguely rooted for him was the 5th film. At least Tarver apparently knocked Stallone out cold filming the 6th film, it cheers me to know at least off-camera Stallone caught one ;D

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i think he did get KTFO by Clubber Lang

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Yeah, but then they ruined it by him making a comeback & winning. If instead Rocky had retired, then made a comeback against a gimme opponent only to get beat again, before developing a major drink problem & getting sent to Graterford Penn for beatin on Adrian, then I would have been happy ;)

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hahaha i have to spread some rep

The fifth one does suck.Although my trainer was in Rocky 5 as an oppenent for Tommy Gunn he was the big white guy in red trunks when they were going through the flash scenes. His name is Kerry Judge. I never had the heart to tell him the movie really sucked. The first Rocky did win 3 Oscars people do forget that an another 7 nominations.

As for Hagler :badass:

I love the Rocky movies . I couldnt imagine any pro fighter using anything from the fight senes themselves though.

What I got from the movies was insperation. What did Mick say to Rocky in his apartment, "Like a motivisation".lol

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As for the films themselves, I really liked the first two, third is good, but not up there with the first two, and I love the fourth one, it was the only one I had on a VCR when I was a kid

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Rocky IV is such a silly film now but back in the day, i used to love that film!
It's Funny... I had seen Rocky IV like 5 times before i even saw Rocky III.

Rocky V, i think iv'e seen once or twice but the first two films i only saw for the first time last week :rolleyes:

Great Films though... ;D

The purists always like 1 & 2 best, but I love the training in Rocky IV

In order

IV
III
II
I
Balboa
V (which was a pile of shit)

Yes love Rocky 4 because of the training and i was at school skiving to watch it. It was mad in the cinema, everyone cheering like it was a real fight. Great days. Still train to that soundtrack, love it! :cool:

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Originally Posted by Master

Yes love Rocky 4 because of the training and i was at school skiving to watch it. It was mad in the cinema, everyone cheering like it was a real fight. Great days. Still train to that soundtrack, love it! :cool:

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Yeh me too - I have the Rocky soundtrack on my ipod everyday when I'm training - I'm just about to go out and do 3 miles on the road with it on now

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Originally Posted by Master

Yes love Rocky 4 because of the training and i was at school skiving to watch it. It was mad in the cinema, everyone cheering like it was a real fight. Great days. Still train to that soundtrack, love it! :cool:

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Yeh me too - I have the Rocky soundtrack on my ipod everyday when I'm training - I'm just about to go out and do 3 miles on the road with it on now

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Hey me too .I have a bunch of the music from the Rocky movies on my Ipod .I listen to it when I run. I wont say train because Im no fighter I just like to pretend .LOL