Calzaghe said Froch was'nt in his league and it would be an easy fight.People just said that he was making excuses and he was ducking him.
Well on that evidence this morning Froch wont'nt stand a chance in hell of beating Joe.
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Calzaghe said Froch was'nt in his league and it would be an easy fight.People just said that he was making excuses and he was ducking him.
Well on that evidence this morning Froch wont'nt stand a chance in hell of beating Joe.
Never doubted it ;)
Stevie Wonder can see Froch would have zero chance against Calzaghe.
Froch wouldn't even beat Bute or Andrade IMO much less Calzaghe or B-Hop, he's crap
I think one things for certain, he looks his worst against guys who fight him off the back foot.
He applies pressure, but he doesn't seem to be able to chase guys down, if they want to stand in front of him or chase him he seems much more comfortable.
I think Taylor (and from what I've heard Dirrell, he just lacked the experience and balls to pull it off 100%) have shown the way: make Froch come to you.
Now froch's shit. He only looked shit because he fought a guy that has 4 times as much speed as jermaine taylor. Put him in with anybody else and froch would have ko'd them. Dirrell only has speed and is a shit fighter otherwise. Nobody could hit dirrell, when he wants to run. To say froch is sht because he couldn't hit speedy gonzalez is disengenuous. If Froch can hit them, he's going to win.
I agree that some are being a bit harsh to Froch after last night, he fought an awkward fighter who was hard to catch and won, BUT his style is going to get him KO'd off Kessler. He'll walk straight into Kess' big shots and noone takes them well. Even Calzaghe looked shaken from time to time in their fight and he wasn't as easy to hit as Froch!Quote:
Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer
People thought that Calzaghe was ducking Froch? Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebif
Froch & his bandwagon of buffoons did. No one else.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHPeople thought that Calzaghe was ducking Froch? Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebif
The only reason Joe could be considered ducking was because he was taking on household names and making a truck load rather than a pitence against Froch in comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinFroch & his bandwagon of buffoons did. No one else.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHPeople thought that Calzaghe was ducking Froch? Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebif
Agree with this. This is why the Kessler - Froch fight is surely going to be great. Although i think Kessler wins i see it being a ding - dong battle. But Kessler will be donging harder and more often than Froch is dinging. So he takes it - but should still be great.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
I'm looking forward to it but I don't see it lasting long unless Froch can hurt Kessler which I doubt he will. I think Kessler will have him out in 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman89Agree with this. This is why the Kessler - Froch fight is surely going to be great. Although i think Kessler wins i see it being a ding - dong battle. But Kessler will be donging harder and more often than Froch is dinging. So he takes it - but should still be great.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
One thing to be said about Kessler, although he is very strong and pretty athletic he's also going to be more predictable than somebody like Dirrell or even Taylor so although Froch's defence is pretty porous, it's not a forgone conclusion that Kessler will be hitting him almost at will.
Froch wants to worry when he does though... :-X
Kessler is definitely going to get hit more than Dirrell. He moves well laterally, or he has in the past, but Froch is going to find him easier to hit and more willing to exchange. I think Kessler is rightly heavily favored to win, but it should be a good fight and either guy could realistically lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
well said adamgb and CFH.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHKessler is definitely going to get hit more than Dirrell. He moves well laterally, or he has in the past, but Froch is going to find him easier to hit and more willing to exchange. I think Kessler is rightly heavily favored to win, but it should be a good fight and either guy could realistically lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
I'll be shocked if Kessler DOESN'T KO Froch. He's gonna be bouncing tons of bombs into him
That's a maximum bet job, seriously
I'm pretty sure the kess froch fight is going to be a lot like kessler andrade, except I don't think froch will make it to see 12. Froch is a bit more akward then andrade and isn't quite as slow but his defence is just as crappy and I'm pretty sure kess hit andrade with like 400 shots to the face, froch isn't going to be able to take it. As for the froch dirrel fight I watched it on a crappy stream, sloppy as hell fight, dirrel did a lot of holding and Froch is a dirty mofo but Dirrel won by a few rounds I thought easy.
Calzaghe would of schooled Froch has they ever met.
Froch might of been awarded the win because he clinched less though. :rolleyes:
Joe would have made him look silly big time.
Im not a big froch fan but i know that frochs management and promoter offered calzaghe a 5million purse which was rejected 2 or 3yrs ago. Now,if JC thought Froch was out of his league and was so confident of beating him, why didnt he make himself the easiest money he ever made. In my opinion its a no-brainer, you take the moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuThe only reason Joe could be considered ducking was because he was taking on household names and making a truck load rather than a pitence against Froch in comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinFroch & his bandwagon of buffoons did. No one else.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Exactly. Why did Calzaghe fight people like Peter Manfredo and not fight Carl Froch? Strange.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnmaff36Im not a big froch fan but i know that frochs management and promoter offered calzaghe a 5million purse which was rejected 2 or 3yrs ago. Now,if JC thought Froch was out of his league and was so confident of beating him, why didnt he make himself the easiest money he ever made. In my opinion its a no-brainer, you take the moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuThe only reason Joe could be considered ducking was because he was taking on household names and making a truck load rather than a pitence against Froch in comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
We'll see how good Froch is when he fights Kesler.
I wouldn't read too much into that last fight. Direl would have made a lot of decent boxers look shit with his run and hold tactics.
After being there saturday night, I have no doubt in my mind that Froch would be eating glove ALL NIGHT LONG against Calzaghe. If he stands with Kessler, he's going to get starched......
Can someone please explain why so many people are quick to have a go at Froch after that fight. It wasnt his fault that Dirrell was so negative. It takes two to make a fight. Maybe im wrong here but i dont recollect too many having a pop at Froch,saying hes a dodgy chin and nonsense like that, after the Pascal fight or,indeed,the Taylor fight
I think Calzaghe would give Froch a terrible beating, and I'm mean, if he fought him now. It would be one of those seriously embarrassing Mayweather-Gatti or Calzaghe-Lacy type beatings.
Froch was recovering from thumb surgery when Joe fought Manfredo, Froch got offered a career high purse to be next in linebut bottled it circa May-June 2007, when Joe was also chasing Taylor who demanded $10m (and who's coach at the time said himself they weren't ready for a guy who throws as much punches as Joe).Quote:
Originally Posted by The RelaExactly. Why did Calzaghe fight people like Peter Manfredo and not fight Carl Froch? Strange.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnmaff36Im not a big froch fan but i know that frochs management and promoter offered calzaghe a 5million purse which was rejected 2 or 3yrs ago. Now,if JC thought Froch was out of his league and was so confident of beating him, why didnt he make himself the easiest money he ever made. In my opinion its a no-brainer, you take the moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
We'll see how good Froch is when he fights Kesler.
I wouldn't read too much into that last fight. Direl would have made a lot of decent boxers look shit with his run and hold tactics.
Calzaghe's next fight was against a unified SM champ, but of course some moron might argue he should have faced a mediocre crow-nosed novice from Nottingham instead.
Everyone except Carl' The Sunshine of my Life' Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
How dare Dirrell not stand there and get hit in the face? Shocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnmaff36
How dare he use footwork to avoid getting hit? How dare Froch be not good enough to cut of the ring or change tactics.:mad:
They bring it on themselves, they run off their mouths saying how great they are when so few actually are great.
It's hard to pick Froch's best most ridiculous quote, but I thought placing himself alongside Sugar Ray Leonard & Marvin Hagler was a good one ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyHow dare Dirrell not stand there and get hit in the face? Shocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnmaff36
How dare he use footwork to avoid getting hit? How dare Froch be not good enough to cut of the ring or change tactics.:mad:
They bring it on themselves, they run off their mouths saying how great they are when so few actually are great.
One thing for sure is Kessler Froch will not be boring.Both will come to win the only way they now and that is'nt running around the ring.
i hope so; now that JT's got a loss, I'm left with only Kessler.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuI'm looking forward to it but I don't see it lasting long unless Froch can hurt Kessler which I doubt he will. I think Kessler will have him out in 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman89Agree with this. This is why the Kessler - Froch fight is surely going to be great. Although i think Kessler wins i see it being a ding - dong battle. But Kessler will be donging harder and more often than Froch is dinging. So he takes it - but should still be great.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
I know its already been said but its Frochs own fault he couldnt touch Dirrell, Froch is the one thats supposed to be able to cut the ring off, he was the one who should have had enough speed to land first, he was the one who was supposed to have bone crunching power and a granite chin, I dont know why he was so worried about moving in later on when hes supposed to get stronger and after all his chin is bullet proof.
Froch is supposed to have been good enough to outbox and stop the weekest fighter in the tournament, he wasnt and is going to get hurt in the rest of the fights.
Froch was offered the Calzaghe match but shiit his pants;D
Also, its not a full gone conclusion that Kessler beats ward.
I was surprised at how good Dirrell was and might be about Ward too and I think Kessler will look awkward against Wards southpaw style, Kessler has the tools to beat everyone in this tournament but maybe Calzaghe has taken the wind out of his sails, id be confident in Kessler if hed have beaten a high profile fighter before this tournament, something more to judge where he is.
I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that Kessler beats Ward either. If Ward can keep it close and take his punches he could get a hometown decision. I think Kessler wins though. And I think Kessler Froch will look like Kessler Andrade until Kessler stops Froch.
It was froch's own fault for not training for speed. He knew this guy had superhuman speed and he should have trained for it. Froch looked really slow in this fight, but he won't look slow against the other fighters. Dirrell is a freak of nature in the speed department, he's going to make the other fighters look slow too. Get ready for another ugly dirrell fight.
I personally don't think it's the end of the ugliness from Dirrell, he'll make many a boring from from here i say. If he has a real good look at that fght, which he'll do, maybe he'll realise that if he brought his game earlier in the fight he would have had froch out of there in my opinion, and out was rooting for froch.... Froch has now been hurt by Reid who wasn't great, dropped by Taylor, who at super middleweight isn't a big puncher and absolutely wobbled to his boots by dirrell, who even himself doesn't think he has the power, otherwise he wouldn't spend most of the night runnin and rope slidin to death to avoid punches. That tells me that Froch and solid chin don't fully go together.Quote:
Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer
Him versus Kessler is going to be a bit of a war to be honest but now IMO Froch won't see the final bell.