Does Kevin Johnson has a chance vs Vitali?

After seeing what Vitali did to a dangerous puncher in Cris Arreola do any of you guys think Kevin Johnson has any chance at all vs Vitali in December???

Kevin Johnson
age: 30
height: 6'3
weight: 235-245
reach: 82 inches
Record: 22(9 KO)-0-1

The guy is as good as he's going to get as far as his potential goes. He's not fought anyone of "class" he's most recently beaten Devin Vargas and Bruce Seldon, both of whom he was able to TKO (he's got a 3 fight TKO streak). Johnson has never been in with a big puncher or a high calibre boxer, and hell Timor Ibragimov was the guy who drew with him.

We all know Vitali is older and this is a quick turn around by today's boxing standards, but Arreola didn't do that much to him...but is Johnson even going to make it 5 with Vitali?

No.

Johnson looked very good against the volume of Vargas, like him or hate him Vargas throws a ton of punches, and you have to be doing something defensively sound to beat him. Johnson was also able to rupture Vargas's ear drum so there is some power there as well.

My problem with Johnson against either Klitschko is that Johnson's foot movement isn't that great, even though his upper body moves like Toney's.
A huge part of Arreola's looking good (relative to the other fighters Vitali has fought since his comeback) was his willingness to eat a little leather to close the gap, and use quick feet to get in. I don't think Johnson who relies exclusively on the jab and counter will be able to do that. I see him getting stuck in space eating jabs and not given the opportunity to land any meaningful counters.

So there is always a chance, but I would say highly unlikely.

Hell-fucking-no. I'd give pacquio a better chance. What he should do is have a "talk off" between him and haye, something both guys are better at.

Well Ibragimov was something like his fourth fight right?

I thought he was taller than though, that doesn't help his chances.

Still, and this probably isn't going to be the consensus opinion, he might be a tougher fight than Arreola. He's better defensively and for how boring he can be at times he does have a good jab.

Yes, Vitali may step forward but his toe gets caught on the advertising board & Vitali tries to adjust himself, his knee gives way. As this happen Johnson lands a punch. As Vitali can no longer walk the ref declares a TKO.

The other alternative is that Johnson fights in Nottingham & convinces the judges he is Carl Froch (ok I'm done now) ;D

Other than that - No.

I don't think so but one never knows. He does possess a tremendous jab with a decent reach and speed. That can be trouble for anyone. Then again who did he fight with those skills Vargas? Seldon? a draw with Timur Ibragimov early in his career. Klitschko should be able to stop him but don't think for a second Johnson couldn't frustrate him at times.

Probably not but he has promised his daughter a new house and he vowed that he would win the title for her so a little motivation/inspiration can go far ask Buster Douglas.

Think his handspeed could give Vitali big problems but his cockiness may see him try to match power...oops.I give him a shot.

No. Johnson lacks pop in his punches. This fight should be billed as "Slaughter in the Snow" or "Iced in the Ice" or "Burned in Bern" or "King Pinned" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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No. Johnson lacks pop in his punches. This fight should be billed as "Slaughter in the Snow" or "Iced in the Ice" or "Burned in Bern" or "King Pinned" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I think his power has improved a bit. He is sitting down on his punches more at least.

If you could combine Johnson's attitude with Eddie Chambers' skills, you'd have a real tasty fighter.

Vitali is a beast, unless he gets old overnight no one is beating this guy.. NO ONE! He is the best of the best and could hang with any ALLTIME Great Heavy

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Vitali is a beast, unless he gets old overnight no one is beating this guy.. NO ONE! He is the best of the best and could hang with any ALLTIME Great Heavy

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That being said, you have to imagine at his age that day is coming sooner rather than later. Not only does he have the talent and the chin, but just the fact that his reach is what it is and his height is what it is, his reign could be extended longer than it normally would for heavyweights.

with Iron shoes in his gloves and the judges not noticing it, everything's possible. Otherwise, he has more chances to win the powerball lottery buying one ticket the day they announce that the stack is now up to 60 millions.

I don't think so BUT fighters of Vitali's age can age all of a sudden. I don't think it will happen but it can creep up on you anytime and how often does it happen when hardly anyone is expecting it?

I can't see any heavyweight beating Vitali.

Probably more likely that Vitali will injure himself in training and have to retire.

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Originally Posted by Myk_Myk

Probably more likely that Vitali will injure himself in training and have to retire.

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Yes because that has certainly been the case recently :rolleyes:

idiot

One thing that does impress me about both brothers is that when they haven't got any injuries they are very active. I mean this will be Vitali's 4th fight since his comeback last year and Wlad in 3 years since beating Byrd has defended 7 times and it would have been more if not for unjuries, in 2008 he defended 3 times, i wish other champions were this active!

Nope. His biggest win was against Devin Vargas!

He is less experienced than Chris Arreola and not as good. Vitali should maul him and stop him around the middle to late rounds.

NO

kevin johnson is skilled but klitschko gonna dominate to smart of a fighter

Hes got a nice jab
A longer reach:o

But I still say no

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Originally Posted by Cleon

Hes got a nice jab
A longer reach:o

But I still say no

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Muhammad Ali is 5" shorter than Vitali but has the same reach (some say longer)

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by Myk_Myk

Probably more likely that Vitali will injure himself in training and have to retire.

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Yes because that has certainly been the case recently :rolleyes:

idiot

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Haha, I guess it's pretty obvious to everyone here how to push your buttons!

You know I didn't say it was likely, just that it was probably more likely than Vitali losing to Johnson in the ring...

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Originally Posted by Cleon

Hes got a nice jab
A longer reach:o

But I still say no

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Muhammad Ali is 5" shorter than Vitali but has the same reach (some say longer)

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Gomez had a slightly longer reach & had some success
Johnson can box
With the jab & reach he may have moments too:-\

He has no power and has NEVER been hit with anything like what Vitali can bring.

Johnson is overrated and can anyone tell me how he's in the ring magazine top 10?

EXACTLY! Johnson is ridiculously overrated, he hasn't beaten anyone good. I think Arreola was way more dangerous.

1 guy out of 40 has lasted the distance vs Vitali and Vitali has only lost 2 times because of INJURY. Johnson has little to no chance

I'm glad Vitali took this fight just cause he'll expose the guy.. I'd rather see John Ruiz fight a Klitschko tough. It would be more interesting

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Originally Posted by Lyle

He has no power and has NEVER been hit with anything like what Vitali can bring.

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True

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Originally Posted by gest12645

Johnson is overrated and can anyone tell me how he's in the ring magazine top 10?

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Who else is there:confused: really:p

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Originally Posted by Lyle

EXACTLY! Johnson is ridiculously overrated, he hasn't beaten anyone good. I think Arreola was way more dangerous.

1 guy out of 40 has lasted the distance vs Vitali and Vitali has only lost 2 times because of INJURY. Johnson has little to no chance

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You could say the same about Arreola:p
I agree though that Kingpin has little chance:(

His chances are worst then Arreolas IMO.

I actually think he has a much better shot then Arreola. He has a pretty good jab but he's lazy, he stops moving his feet a lot in fights and starts trying to be James Toney slipping shots. He was good against Vargas, I don't know he has a better chance of being able to box off the backfoot against Vitali but I don't know if his defense holds up. I will still root for him even though when he talks I cringe.

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Originally Posted by amat

I actually think he has a much better shot then Arreola. He has a pretty good jab but he's lazy, he stops moving his feet a lot in fights and starts trying to be James Toney slipping shots. He was good against Vargas, I don't know he has a better chance of being able to box off the backfoot against Vitali but I don't know if his defense holds up. I will still root for him even though when he talks I cringe.

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I agree
He talks, now we want to see if he can walk:p

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

His chances are worst then Arreolas IMO.

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Yes! At least Cris had power....Kevin is going into battle with a pee shooter vs Vitali who is just going to shell the crap out of Johnson with power punches.

Johnson ain't Chris Byrd and he ain't Lennox Lewis AND he doesn't have a shot in hell

Yep
Knife to a gun fight situation
Still think he does better than Mr Nipples:boobs2:

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

His chances are worst then Arreolas IMO.

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I agree.

Less than a week for this one. Anyone think Johnson can pull this out?

Anything is possible i gave dougless no shot against tyson and we see how that went. Being overlooked is johnsons best chance......and he's definatly being overlooked.