Team Valuev not fazed by Haye's antics!

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WBA Heavyweight Champion Nikolai Valuev (50-1, 34 KOs) is unfazed by David Haye´s latest antics, insisting he could not care less about the challenger´s constant provocations. Last week, the 29-year-old (22-1, 21 KOs) once again insulted the biggest and tallest champion of all time at a press conference in England. Valuev barely took any notice – he gave up caring about his opponent a long time ago. “I don’t really care about what he says or does,” Valuev stated. “I cannot take him seriously. When I first heard about the t-shirts where he chopped the Klitschkos, I thought ‘Oh my God, another idiot in our world.’ He can say whatever he likes – it will not get him my title.”

Kalle Sauerland, Valuev´s promoter, found clearer words. “Haye’s behaviour is very strange and not normal at all. I think one German phrase sums it up well: ‘1,000 volts, but no light’.”

Valuev will soon wrap up his preparation in Kienbaum to then continue with sparring in Berlin´s famous Max Schmeling Gym. “Everything has been going very well thus far,” the Russian Giant added. “I will be in perfect shape on November 7. Let’s see what Haye has to say after our meeting in the ring – I doubt it will be much.”

So it looks like he is taking Haye seriously then. I mean he says he's going to be in PERFECT shape for Haye!!! That means he must be training this time. Don't think he's ever done that before! I think he'll look strange with a six pack and a tight body personally can't wait to see it though. ;)

Haye is a wanker

Valuev is massive but would never be as big a twat as Haye;D

How long ago was Hayes last fight? Who was it against? and how did their other fights go before and after?

Oh yeah, Haye fought a year ago against Monte Barrett and Cliff Couser and Odlanier Solis both sparked him in the second but Haye the "massive" puncher needed 5 rounds and even then he couldnt put him to sleep like they did;D

I dont think Haye has a great deal in his favour, hes been bullied around the ring by Fragomeni, a little light hitting Cruiser, outworked and stopped by a 40 year old retired Thompson, he always tires and im fed up of Haye and hope Valuev just sits on the little cunnt

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From Fightnews

WBA Heavyweight Champion Nikolai Valuev (50-1, 34 KOs) is unfazed by David Haye´s latest antics, insisting he could not care less about the challenger´s constant provocations. Last week, the 29-year-old (22-1, 21 KOs) once again insulted the biggest and tallest champion of all time at a press conference in England. Valuev barely took any notice – he gave up caring about his opponent a long time ago. “I don’t really care about what he says or does,” Valuev stated. “I cannot take him seriously. When I first heard about the t-shirts where he chopped the Klitschkos, I thought ‘Oh my God, another idiot in our world.’ He can say whatever he likes – it will not get him my title.”

Kalle Sauerland, Valuev´s promoter, found clearer words. “Haye’s behaviour is very strange and not normal at all. I think one German phrase sums it up well: ‘1,000 volts, but no light’.”

Valuev will soon wrap up his preparation in Kienbaum to then continue with sparring in Berlin´s famous Max Schmeling Gym. “Everything has been going very well thus far,” the Russian Giant added. “I will be in perfect shape on November 7. Let’s see what Haye has to say after our meeting in the ring – I doubt it will be much.”

So it looks like he is taking Haye seriously then. I mean he says he's going to be in PERFECT shape for Haye!!! That means he must be training this time. Don't think he's ever done that before! I think he'll look strange with a six pack and a tight body personally can't wait to see it though. ;)

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You won't be able to tell if he has a six-pack because of his sasquatch body hair ;D

I really hope Valuev is training, he has relied on his size for everything thus far, Haye could end up having an easy night if he paces himself. I mean really all Haye has to do is knock him down once and Valuev will not get up.

If Valuev could do nothing but 1-2's for 12 rounds with his reach would be a massive improvement.

I'm torn, I hate both fighters so much....on one hand I want Valuev to win only to be disposed of by Wladimir, on the other hand I want Haye to win only to get demolished by Wladimir.

I think I want Haye to win ONLY if he fights Wladimir right after Wlad's fight vs Eddie Chambers (which shouldn't be too tough). I doubt I can stomach another year of Haye's bullshit...and I would LOVE for Wlad to beat Haye up early and try to carry him 12 rounds only to KO Haye in the 12th.

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I'm torn, I hate both fighters so much....on one hand I want Valuev to win only to be disposed of by Wladimir, on the other hand I want Haye to win only to get demolished by Wladimir.

I think I want Haye to win ONLY if he fights Wladimir right after Wlad's fight vs Eddie Chambers (which shouldn't be too tough). I doubt I can stomach another year of Haye's bullshit...and I would LOVE for Wlad to beat Haye up early and try to carry him 12 rounds only to KO Haye in the 12th.

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Let me ask you Lyle, what will you do if Haye sparks Wlad out? Will we ever hear from you again?

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Haye is a wanker

Valuev is massive but would never be as big a twat as Haye;D

How long ago was Hayes last fight? Who was it against? and how did their other fights go before and after?

Oh yeah, Haye fought a year ago against Monte Barrett and Cliff Couser and Odlanier Solis both sparked him in the second but Haye the "massive" puncher needed 5 rounds and even then he couldnt put him to sleep like they did;D

I dont think Haye has a great deal in his favour, hes been bullied around the ring by Fragomeni, a little light hitting Cruiser, outworked and stopped by a 40 year old retired Thompson, he always tires and im fed up of Haye and hope Valuev just sits on the little cunnt

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Couser KO'd him4 fights before Haye, he then KO'd Couser back in 2 and KO'd 2 more fighters after that. I'm not arguing that Barrett is great i'm just saying you are talking shit really and not getting your facts straight before typing!

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Let me ask you Lyle, what will you do if Haye sparks Wlad out? Will we ever hear from you again?

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...I don't think any of us have to worry about that happening.

I dislike both fighters but at least, Valuev's a nice fellow (well, not physically but you get what I mean) and I know that after that, he would fight one of the Klitschko under normal circumstances; Haye's too much of a cunt and would make impossible demands, which would make the fight more difficult to happen. SO yeah, Valuev wins, fight Wlad and Haye begs Vitali for a chance under normal circumstances, both get knocked out, Vitali makes one more match then retire and then Wlad finally unify the titles and we have an unified champion. I know, it is mere fantasy but well, it's free and keeps me young :)

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Let me ask you Lyle, what will you do if Haye sparks Wlad out? Will we ever hear from you again?

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...I don't think any of us have to worry about that happening.

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Thats it duck the question. Suppose no-one had to worry about Purrity either???

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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

From Fightnews

WBA Heavyweight Champion Nikolai Valuev (50-1, 34 KOs) is unfazed by David Haye´s latest antics, insisting he could not care less about the challenger´s constant provocations. Last week, the 29-year-old (22-1, 21 KOs) once again insulted the biggest and tallest champion of all time at a press conference in England. Valuev barely took any notice – he gave up caring about his opponent a long time ago. “I don’t really care about what he says or does,” Valuev stated. “I cannot take him seriously. When I first heard about the t-shirts where he chopped the Klitschkos, I thought ‘Oh my God, another idiot in our world.’ He can say whatever he likes – it will not get him my title.”

Kalle Sauerland, Valuev´s promoter, found clearer words. “Haye’s behaviour is very strange and not normal at all. I think one German phrase sums it up well: ‘1,000 volts, but no light’.”

Valuev will soon wrap up his preparation in Kienbaum to then continue with sparring in Berlin´s famous Max Schmeling Gym. “Everything has been going very well thus far,” the Russian Giant added. “I will be in perfect shape on November 7. Let’s see what Haye has to say after our meeting in the ring – I doubt it will be much.”

So it looks like he is taking Haye seriously then. I mean he says he's going to be in PERFECT shape for Haye!!! That means he must be training this time. Don't think he's ever done that before! I think he'll look strange with a six pack and a tight body personally can't wait to see it though. ;)

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Let me ask you Lyle, what will you do if Haye sparks Wlad out? Will we ever hear from you again?

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...I don't think any of us have to worry about that happening.

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Thats it duck the question. Suppose no-one had to worry about Purrity either???

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We all know Wladimir ran out of gas going for the ko but we also know Ross has something bigmouth Haye don't have and that's an iron jaw with a lot more ass.Haye knows this too so when the day comes I'm sure Haye is going to try and play the role as knockout artist and with his lack of defensive skills I see him getting sparked but all of this is irrelevant because I don't see him getting past NV.

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...I don't think any of us have to worry about that happening.

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Thats it duck the question. Suppose no-one had to worry about Purrity either???

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We all know Wladimir ran out of gas going for the ko but we also know Ross has something bigmouth Haye don't have and that's an iron jaw with a lot more ass.Haye knows this too so when the day comes I'm sure Haye is going to try and play the role as knockout artist and with his lack of defensive skills I see him getting sparked but all of this is irrelevant because I don't see him getting past NV.

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I'll remind you of that in 2 weeks. You fancy some kind of bet on the fight?

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Thats it duck the question. Suppose no-one had to worry about Purrity either???

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...OK fine, if David Haye was lucky enough to spark out Wladimir Klitschko, I would then begin my training and enter the ring as a heavyweight TITLE contender....ahving had 0 amateur fights and 0 pro fights and I would procede to pull the exact same crap on Haye as he's done to everyone else in the division.

You guys know me, I'm stubborn, I don't quit....I'd psychologically ruin Haye and then I'd whup his ass!

But thankfully (for David Haye's sake) David Haye won't have to worry about that.

Haye had better worry about sparking out Man mammoth firstly and had his chance to mix it up with Wlad...but hurt his chest,I mean his back.Valuev is terrible,but is half a foot and 80-100 lbs of terrible that Haye has never shared a ring with.For a guy with past stamina issues and only 1 fight in the past one and a half years,thats nothing to take lightly.

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...I don't think any of us have to worry about that happening.

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Thats it duck the question. Suppose no-one had to worry about Purrity either???

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We all know Wladimir ran out of gas going for the ko but we also know[B] Ross has something bigmouth Haye don't have and that's an iron jaw with a lot more ass.[/B]Haye knows this too so when the day comes I'm sure Haye is going to try and play the role as knockout artist and with his lack of defensive skills I see him getting sparked but all of this is irrelevant because I don't see him getting past NV.

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dunno bout you, but i don't really check out their asses lol

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Haye had better worry about sparking out Man mammoth firstly and had his chance to mix it up with Wlad...but hurt his chest,I mean his back.Valuev is terrible,but is half a foot and 80-100 lbs of terrible that Haye has never shared a ring with.For a guy with past stamina issues and only 1 fight in the past one and a half years,thats nothing to take lightly.

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Also considering Haye's last fight lasted all of 5 rounds and the fight before that was 2 rounds.....he will have ring rust!

Good news for Haye is that Valuev hasn't fought very much recently either.

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Haye had better worry about sparking out Man mammoth firstly and had his chance to mix it up with Wlad...but hurt his chest,I mean his back.Valuev is terrible,but is half a foot and 80-100 lbs of terrible that Haye has never shared a ring with.For a guy with past stamina issues and only 1 fight in the past one and a half years,thats nothing to take lightly.

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Also considering Haye's last fight lasted all of 5 rounds and the fight before that was 2 rounds.....he will have ring rust!

Good news for Haye is that Valuev hasn't fought very much recently either.

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This is my only real worry as a Haye fan. He has not been active enough, but he is young and a very healthy athlete so i'm hoping he doesn't show any rust. Apparently his sparring has been quite intense but only against the likes of Tyson Fury who has now broke his hand so i'm not sure who he has sparred with since to practice for Valuevs height!

To my knowledge he's called on the Great Julius Long

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To my knowledge he's called on the Great Julius Long

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Well it's the height that he needs practice against to be honest. no-one really goes for the kill in sparring so quality is not that important! It's not as if Vitali was going to go and help Haye out was it?

Eh...you take what you can get...he's probably used Tye Fields....if he was smart he would call on Alexander Ustinov who is closer to the size of Valuev, he's routinely over 300 pounds but he's in decent shape and moves well for a guy that big....he's not going to be a great fighter but he would provide Haye with how it feels to be in the ring with someone that big

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Haye had better worry about sparking out Man mammoth firstly and had his chance to mix it up with Wlad...but hurt his chest,I mean his back.Valuev is terrible,but is half a foot and 80-100 lbs of terrible that Haye has never shared a ring with.For a guy with past stamina issues and only 1 fight in the past one and a half years,thats nothing to take lightly.

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Also considering Haye's last fight lasted all of 5 rounds and the fight before that was 2 rounds.....he will have ring rust!

Good news for Haye is that Valuev hasn't fought very much recently either.

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This is my only real worry as a Haye fan. He has not been active enough, but he is young and a very healthy athlete so i'm hoping he doesn't show any rust. Apparently his sparring has been quite intense but only against the likes of Tyson Fury who has now broke his hand so i'm not sure who he has sparred with since to practice for Valuevs height!

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Lets be perfectly honest here, he maybe 7foot 2 320 odd pounds but the guy doesnt really possess any boxing attributes and for a guy of his stature isnt exactly a big puncher.

Hayes just gotta go through the motions and not be stupid in order to get this job done, i really believe that. As long as he doesnt stand and trade with the guy he should be able to use his superior footwork, energy to take a comfortable points decision after 12rounds.

It doesnt exactly sound exciting because there really isnt much to get yourself excited for about this fight. Haye is unproven untested and definitely there are still question marks not only about his jaw but his actual hunger to get in the ring and fight.

But you dont have to be a world class fighter to beat valuev. You either have to rough him up and jump into him for 36 minutes ala:chagaev, ruiz or as ive already mentioned use your far superior boxing skills which haye will possess to keep out of trouble for 12 rounds!

...it's hard to stay out of range vs Valuev and Haye's defense is poor.

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...it's hard to stay out of range vs Valuev and Haye's defense is poor.

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his defense is suspect. Anyone thats seen the thompson and mormeck fights will know that.

He leaves his left hand down and opens himself up to all kinds of trouble. Heavyweight boxing is the one division you really cant afford to be doing this.

The ring in germany will be small designed to aid valuev and your right in saying haye isnt gonna have much room to manouvere. But you dont neccesarily have to be out of range from valuev to not get hurt.

He`ll throw chopping right handers into haye all night. David has to simply fight at angles using his superior footwork to make that big counter as hard as possible to land, get as many hard punches into a completely open chest whenever possible and avoid getting sucked in by one of those big rights.

That alone is job done...

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...it's hard to stay out of range vs Valuev and Haye's defense is poor.

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his defense is suspect. Anyone thats seen the thompson and mormeck fights will know that.

He leaves his left hand down and opens himself up to all kinds of trouble. Heavyweight boxing is the one division you really cant afford to be doing this.

The ring in germany will be small designed to aid valuev and your right in saying haye isnt gonna have much room to manouvere. But you dont neccesarily have to be out of range from valuev to not get hurt.

He`ll throw chopping right handers into haye all night. David has to simply fight at angles using his superior footwork to make that big counter as hard as possible to land, get as many hard punches into a completely open chest whenever possible and avoid getting sucked in by one of those big rights.

That alone is job done...

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I honestly see a Haye KO. I think Haye will land the uppercut regular and thegiant will sleep after 3-4 of them!

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...it's hard to stay out of range vs Valuev and Haye's defense is poor.

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his defense is suspect. Anyone thats seen the thompson and mormeck fights will know that.

He leaves his left hand down and opens himself up to all kinds of trouble. Heavyweight boxing is the one division you really cant afford to be doing this.

The ring in germany will be small designed to aid valuev and your right in saying haye isnt gonna have much room to manouvere. But you dont neccesarily have to be out of range from valuev to not get hurt.

He`ll throw chopping right handers into haye all night. David has to simply fight at angles using his superior footwork to make that big counter as hard as possible to land, get as many hard punches into a completely open chest whenever possible and avoid getting sucked in by one of those big rights.

That alone is job done...

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I honestly see a Haye KO. I think Haye will land the uppercut regular and thegiant will sleep after 3-4 of them!

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He has the potential to land and absoloute monster at any point in the fight that could put valuev out.

I dont think it will happen but if haye was to land and absoloute peach of an overhand right just as valuev attempts a right of his own he wont just put valuev down he`ll send him to sleep.

If Haye gets a KO, MARK MY WORDS it will be from a looping overhand right....Monte Barrett wobbled Valuev with one of those early on in their "epic 11 round battle" :cwm33:....Haye will have to follow up very quickly though


If the fight starts to go long, Haye will NEED to stay very close to Valuev, rip off a combo and then get back to clinching as being "in the pocket" vs Valuev it will be very hard for Nico to get anything on his punches with as long as his arms are and Haye could fight at a slower pace....it may be bad if Valuev leans on him though, but Chagaev did that to Valuev and won.

...I just thought of something, it would be funny as hell if Valuev got KO'd and landed on David Haye ;D

That would be as close to a win-win situation as we could get for you Lyle... ;D