His next fight is January 23 in Newark. He will most probably fight David Tua. But Chagaev is also a probability from the looks of it. Either fight would be great to watch.
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His next fight is January 23 in Newark. He will most probably fight David Tua. But Chagaev is also a probability from the looks of it. Either fight would be great to watch.
So he is staying at heavyweight permanently?Quote:
Originally Posted by gest12645
i'd like to see how he deals with a guy like Chagaev, and hope that Tua takes on someone like Chaz Witherspoon, who's a bit better than his last opponent, and jumps to a title shot soon, i'd like to see him at least get another shot at a title, it's pretty ridiculous that he only had a shot at Lewis and nothing else afterwards, and guys like Peter, Maskaev, and Ruiz get a shot every other weekQuote:
Originally Posted by eagleSo he is staying at heavyweight permanently?Quote:
Originally Posted by gest12645
I think he should go down in weight, I did not see him beat Golota but he would get beat by better heavies.
Yeah , he's staying at heavy . And wants Klitschko's in a fight or two.
I hope he fight Chagaev since Tua is a guy im rooting for also
IMO he looked more impressive against Golota than Haye did against Solis, so he can't really fare any worseQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Haye fought Solis in the AMs years ago and nearly KO'd him with the big gloves and head guard on. they have not fought since.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesIMO he looked more impressive against Golota than Haye did against Solis, so he can't really fare any worseQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Haye is also naturally quite a lot bigger than Adamek. I think if it's true and he is fighting TUA (I've heard nothing of this) he might well get KO'd very hard very quick. Tua is not great but is a very hard puncher who still has something in the tank unlike Golota.
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here's a linkk, had one more and will post if i find it. it's in polish though
Thats going to take a long time to translate with my polish dictionary lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by gest12645
i meant to say Haye against Barrett lol, and IMO Haye although "bigger" like you said, has a shitty chin
Adamek on the other hand has an iron beard
Haye is developing into a natural HW at around 225lbs or so. Adamek's natural weight isn't much over 200lbs. He's got a good chin, but he didn't really take anything even resembling clean off Golota, so we don't know how it stands up at Heavyweight.
I would like to see a fight between the two, but I suspect that Haye would stop him, possibly due to the ref stopping it.
Adamek is staying at heavyweight? AND he wants to fight the Klitschko's?!?!?!.......well that's too bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egX9N8yOgaU
Nice knowing you Tomaz
why the fuck is he staying at HW? he'd get sparked by guys like haye and tua. i thought the golota fight was supposed to be nothing more than a pay-day for him. a pathetic showcase it was. he needs to rematch Cunningham at CW.
Yes Haye caught him with a great shot that buckled him, but Solis weathered it and flipped it around to absolutely school Haye after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesIMO he looked more impressive against Golota than Haye did against Solis, so he can't really fare any worseQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Haye fought Solis in the AMs years ago and nearly KO'd him with the big gloves and head guard on. they have not fought since.
Haye is also naturally quite a lot bigger than Adamek. I think if it's true and he is fighting TUA (I've heard nothing of this) he might well get KO'd very hard very quick. Tua is not great but is a very hard puncher who still has something in the tank unlike Golota.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKkXL3M3JXs
I think his selection of Tua or Chagaev as future opponents are very good. But he will be outgunned by the 2 headed monster that is Klitschko and probably wants the payday that comes with fighting them before he calls it a career in the heavies.
Yeah I think adamek is trying to make as much money as possible and get out within a few more fights, and the money is obviously way better at heavy than at cruiser. It's the only reason that seems to make sense, because I don't think he truly believes he can beat vitali or wlad, way to small. Which kind of sucks because he's always made for exciting fights, but then again he's taken a good amount of punishment in his carrer. Just the two wars he had with briggs at 175 were really brutal, so if he wants to cash in and retire, good for him.
Tuaminator would murder him:foruml10gc5:
Povetkin or Chagaev are better choices
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Originally Posted by Cleon
Tua would be an interesting test but Adamek moves better, has a better defense and is (in my opinion) faster too, I am not certain at all Tua would murder him, actually.
Golota wobbled himQuote:
Originally Posted by NamelessQuote:
Originally Posted by Cleon
Tua would be an interesting test but Adamek moves better, has a better defense and is (in my opinion) faster too, I am not certain at all Tua would murder him, actually.
If Tua catches him its over:cwm33:
I thought Solid dominate Haye in the amateurs?Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuHaye fought Solis in the AMs years ago and nearly KO'd him with the big gloves and head guard on. they have not fought since.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesIMO he looked more impressive against Golota than Haye did against Solis, so he can't really fare any worseQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Haye is also naturally quite a lot bigger than Adamek. I think if it's true and he is fighting TUA (I've heard nothing of this) he might well get KO'd very hard very quick. Tua is not great but is a very hard puncher who still has something in the tank unlike Golota.
Adamek should stay at cruiserweight and dominate, but I understand his desire to move up and secure bigger money fights. HBO and Showtime haven't shown much interest in showing his fights, which is a shame considering that his fight with Cunningham was a FOTY candidate.
Yes but Haye showed his inexperience by letting that happen. Had that been a pro fight Solis would have been KO'd though and especially now when you consider how bad shape he is in, Haye would school him.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepYes Haye caught him with a great shot that buckled him, but Solis weathered it and flipped it around to absolutely school Haye after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Haye fought Solis in the AMs years ago and nearly KO'd him with the big gloves and head guard on. they have not fought since.
Haye is also naturally quite a lot bigger than Adamek. I think if it's true and he is fighting TUA (I've heard nothing of this) he might well get KO'd very hard very quick. Tua is not great but is a very hard puncher who still has something in the tank unlike Golota.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKkXL3M3JXs
not necessarily, he could wake up from the fall and I think Adamek as himself enough power to knock down the Tuaman plus, as I stated, I wouldn't be surprised if Tua, who's not that tall for a HW, couldn't land him any flush shot at all and just get overworked and slowly grinded down.Quote:
Originally Posted by CleonGolota wobbled himQuote:
Originally Posted by NamelessQuote:
Originally Posted by Cleon
Tua would be an interesting test but Adamek moves better, has a better defense and is (in my opinion) faster too, I am not certain at all Tua would murder him, actually.
If Tua catches him its over:cwm33:
If your going to mix it up with Tua your giving him the advantageQuote:
Originally Posted by Namelessnot necessarily, he could wake up from the fall and I think Adamek as himself enough power to knock down the Tuaman plus, as I stated, I wouldn't be surprised if Tua, who's not that tall for a HW, couldn't land him any flush shot at all and just get overworked and slowly grinded down.Quote:
Originally Posted by CleonGolota wobbled himQuote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
If Tua catches him its over:cwm33:
Adamek likes to come forward & there's no way he puts a dent in Tua's chin
I agree Tua can be outworked & out boxed
That would be Adamek's best bet
But 12 rds is a long time to avoid Tua's bombs
Thats why I'd give him a chance with Wlad. Tua is not great but he can take a bit and can bomb.Quote:
Originally Posted by CleonIf your going to mix it up with Tua your giving him the advantageQuote:
Originally Posted by Namelessnot necessarily, he could wake up from the fall and I think Adamek as himself enough power to knock down the Tuaman plus, as I stated, I wouldn't be surprised if Tua, who's not that tall for a HW, couldn't land him any flush shot at all and just get overworked and slowly grinded down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleon
Adamek likes to come forward & there's no way he puts a dent in Tua's chin
I agree Tua can be outworked & out boxed
That would be Adamek's best bet
But 12 rds is a long time to avoid Tua's bombs
Wladdy could play safety 1st though & has the ability to carry it outQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuThats why I'd give him a chance with Wlad. Tua is not great but he can take a bit and can bomb.Quote:
Originally Posted by CleonIf your going to mix it up with Tua your giving him the advantageQuote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
Adamek likes to come forward & there's no way he puts a dent in Tua's chin
I agree Tua can be outworked & out boxed
That would be Adamek's best bet
But 12 rds is a long time to avoid Tua's bombs
I think Adameks style is perfect for Tua
Certainly if Tua could get inside & let his hands go he might catch Wlad
But it could be a repeat of the Lewis fight:-\
Tua may fight Ahunanya in December
So Adamek is off the LEFT hook for now
Oh Adamek wouldn't play the backyard brawl with Tua, he would just outsmart him on the ring plain and simple, especially as the guy has good footwork, great jab an his chin has been more than tested. If you ask me, Tua's more or less only chance would be to land the mightiest bomb on the chin and hope for the K.O otherwise I give an edge to Adamek in almost every aspects of the toolsQuote:
Originally Posted by CleonIf your going to mix it up with Tua your giving him the advantageQuote:
Originally Posted by Namelessnot necessarily, he could wake up from the fall and I think Adamek as himself enough power to knock down the Tuaman plus, as I stated, I wouldn't be surprised if Tua, who's not that tall for a HW, couldn't land him any flush shot at all and just get overworked and slowly grinded down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleon
Adamek likes to come forward & there's no way he puts a dent in Tua's chin
I agree Tua can be outworked & out boxed
That would be Adamek's best bet
But 12 rds is a long time to avoid Tua's bombs
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Originally Posted by rjj tszyuYes but Haye showed his inexperience by letting that happen. Had that been a pro fight Solis would have been KO'd though and especially now when you consider how bad shape he is in, Haye would school him.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepYes Haye caught him with a great shot that buckled him, but Solis weathered it and flipped it around to absolutely school Haye after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKkXL3M3JXs
I don't agree with that Solis probably would have hit the canvas but the end result would be closer Haye/Daniels. Solis has phenomenal recuperative powers.
Although he was dominated by Lewis, he still connected a few time's and I think that could be Wlad's undoing. I'd bet on Wlad don't get me wrong but I think Tua would be a bit more dangerous than some of Wlads other recent opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by CleonWladdy could play safety 1st though & has the ability to carry it outQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuThats why I'd give him a chance with Wlad. Tua is not great but he can take a bit and can bomb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleon
I think Adameks style is perfect for Tua
Certainly if Tua could get inside & let his hands go he might catch Wlad
But it could be a repeat of the Lewis fight:-\
....doubtful, chins don't improve with age and I'm not talking about Wladimir's. Sure Tua hasn't been KO'd but he HAS been hurt recently....well recently in terms of his career vs Hasim Rahman.
If Tua fought Wlad he'd be fighting the 1 guy in the division with a left hook that is just as dangerous as his own along with a right cross that can level small cities....and a trainer who knows what is coming re Tua.
I am just wondering, would Wladimir stop him or not....there's NO doubt Wlad wins
There is always a doubt when Wlad's involved whether you like it or not, he is a very good boxer no doubt but he is chinny and that always gives the other person a chance especially when they hit like Tua.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
How often has Wlad been hit recently??? And what competition has Tua fought that makes you think he'd get past that 1-2?
The 2nd Rahman fight Tua just got anxious in the dying seconds looking for the KOQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Don't read to much too much into it
Tuas right is also pretty lethal- ala Moorer
Wlad wins but I doubt he stops him