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Who can PBF fight and get props for. I dont care if he fight hopkins people will still hate on him. Hopkins was old fight somebody young.
Lets start with PAC.
Can we agree that a PBF PAC fight is the fight people wanna see.
Now what will people say if PBF wins this fight? I wanna hear your responses.
2nd i wanna hear what people will say if PBF beats Shane since that another fight people are hungry for.
If he beats Pacquaio to the haters it won't mean anything. After his complete domination of Marquez they will have already dismissed Manny as too small.
Realistically Manny doesn't offer much at all to challenge Floyd imo so hopefully Cotto smashes Manny and then we will have a decent fight to look forward to there.
Mosely is the guy he needs to face imo, he's proven world class, the current Ring champ at welter I believe and more than anyone deserves a top fight.
Aside from Mosely Paul Williams would be the biggest test.
I actually posted a couple of years ago saying I believed Williams would beat Floyd and everyone laughed at me. Now I believe it would be the consensus.
I just posted a video on my site. Team Pacquiao wants nothing to do with Mayweather for several reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boxer
We may be looking at a Marquez/PAC Trilogy.
Floyd is being treated about as bad a Margarito, also see video on my site about Margaritos options once he returns.
Only time will tell but Floyd retired while the iron was hot, he left a lot of unfinished business. Came back, said he had a hit list, dog ate the hit list. Shane calls out Floyd, Floyd pee's all over himself. Floyd left and as I predicted, he waited until the welter began to destroy each other and now he wants to feed on the carcass left behind? <-- Cotto.
Floyd has been campaigning as a welter for about 5 years and yet when was the last time he faced a real welter?
How is Floyd even ranked as the number two welter weight by Ring mag is beyond me.
I would much rather see Pac vs Marquez III than Pac vs PBF.
It's obvious floyd came back only for the money. He said it himself the other day while talking to Ruggedman.
Fighters should just ignore Mayweather and go on about thier business as usual. What else is there to say?
We have to wait 12 days before we continue this conversation.
Agree with Bilbo he needs to fight Shane before he gets a zimmer frame.
Hillarious....people hate floyd for fighting for money yet all these guys come out of the woodwork to beg for a fight against a guy they say isn't shit and can't draw blah blah blah. So hate him for making money but quick to try everything to get him in the ring to get a piece of it. All these guys have said it over and over floyd is a fake champion, sucks so on and so forth so fight paul williams, oh but wait taking the easiest fight for the biggest money isn't so stupid all of the sudden, so we'll avoid paul like the plague.
The haters will always have some excuses
Manny would be to small
Shane to old
Its one thing to say your the best, another to prove it
Fight Manny, fight Shane, fight Cotto, fight Williams
Floyd would probably beat them all
But it means more to do it, than to just talk about it
Yes PAC will all of a sudden become a blown up feather weight after PBF beats him. Even though many people claim PBF needs to fight PAC to challege himself.
Shane will called another old past his prime fighter after PBF beats him.
Paul Williams will be called overrated if he gets beat by PBF.
Cotto will be said to be ruin by Margarito if PBF beats him.
Now if PAC beats all the above mention after PBF beats them people will act like he's the greatest ever.
Mosley, Cotto and Williams for me. If he beats all three of them there can be no justification for any criticism of Floyd. However, it is very unlikely Floyd will take on and beat all of them. We will be very lucky to see him in there with even one of them. You get the impression that Floyd couldn't care less about trying to prove himself a great. Too much gay love for his 0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
I would like to see Floyd against Mosley, but I don't see what problems Mosley truly posses to Floyd, he's a great athlete, but his offense is such that Mayweather would have no problem defending against it, and Mayweather would have an even easier time hitting MOsley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Williams can't deal with movement, and even though he is so tall, he doesn't have the kind of jab that Hearns had to properly impose himself on opponents. I think he's still easy to hit if you can reach him, and Mayweather has to the speed to pot shot him all night. Williams is really good against stationary fighters, but not against movement.
Cotto I think is a great fighter for FLoyd to face, I think Floyd clearly wins this even if Cotto beats PAcquiao, but Floyd is easiest to hit in the body, there is no more accurate guy then Cotto when they have you on the ropes, and Cotto is a similar, but better version of Jose Luis Castillo who gave Mayweather all types of problems when they fought, I think if Cotto came in sharp he would have be the best challenge for Floyd.
If Berto can beat Mosley, I think he will prove himself a valid opponent for Floyd, but thats a huge IF. I think if he can refine his talent, that Berto could be truly special, but he better hurry up.
That's true... And sometimes during some fighters legacies, there just isn't the opposition there for them to confirm their greatness..Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleon
But you can at least shut the critics up and force them to admit "at least he took on the best that he could".. Even if some people will never give a fighter the props they deserve, EVERYONE recognizes some who takes on the toughest challengers that are out there for them...
A fighter can't say "Well I won't get props from everyone for winning that fight, so there is no point winning it"...
Floyd needs to fight Mosley, Cotto, Berto and Pacquiao if he wins. Mosley keeps calling out Floyd, but Floyd keeps ducking him. Floyd never mentions Cotto. Floyd only mentions little guys with popularity and a large following. The typical low risk, very high reward. That's what Floyd is these days. It's as clear as day.
I think thats bullshit.
Any knowledgeable boxing fan would give Mayweather credit for beating the likes of Cotto, Mosley, etc.
Those who don't are called haters, all top fighters get them.
Floyd gets more hate than most top fighters because of his cocky immature attitude.
Lets not try make out Floyd is all innocent.
The Boxer, this isn't brain surgery. Floyd needs to fight any of the proven dominant fighters at 147 including Shane, Paul, or Cotto (I would include Margarito but Margarito doesn't deserve that pay day). All three have mixed up in the ring and done more at welterweight than PBF.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boxer
In my opinion, and Pacquiao may prove me wrong, but 147 is too big for Manny and he'll lose against Cotto. I think Manny should fight in and around 140. However, the bigger names are in the welterweight division, which may prove to be Pac's downfall.
Floyd has fought at welterweight for five years and has not fought any of the dominant fighters at that weight and in the same time period he has fought two fighters who are naturally smaller than him at 147. Morevoer, welterweight is one of the deeper divisions in boxing. I find it ironic that Pacquiao is actually fighting Cotto before Floyd. And although I don't think Pacquiao will beat Cotto, if he did beat Cotto, it really would be something, win or lose, if Pacquiao then fought Shane before Floyd.
Anyway, none of this would matter at all if Floyd wasn't considered and didn't claim to be the greatest fighter on earth.
Like Hatton, Baldomir, Judah, Oscar De La Hoya, Corrales, Castillo? They were all naturally bigger than himQuote:
Originally Posted by Rican
Corrales and Castillo were years ago and floyd got credit for those wins...Hatton was limited at WW. Floyd got credit for judah and Baldomir. Oscar had lost 4 out 5 before taking the big payday fight against floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaethLike Hatton, Baldomir, Judah, Oscar De La Hoya, Corrales, Castillo? They were all naturally bigger than himQuote:
Originally Posted by Rican
No he didn't he won 3 out of 5, and though I don't think he beat Sturm, he definitely beat Mosley in their second fight... the guy many of you are stating would give Floyd his best fight, Also Oscar right before facing Floyd beat the shit out of Mayorga way worse than Mosley did to a much lesser version,and one of the guys he lost to was Bernard Hopkins who is currently the best light heavyweight in the world and one of the top 5 best fighters of hte past 20 years.
that fight was six years, oscar and shane. Mayorga was drinking in bars for a year before he faced oscar...Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Oscar lost to Shane, Sturm, KAoyed by bhop, beat mayorga then fought Floyd.
Oh Hatton was limited at WW. Now ya'll believe us. When PBF fans said Hatton was limited in 2005 ya'll didn't beleive us and said PBF needed to fight Hatton. Now after PBF beats Hatton he is considered a limted fighter so the fight means nothing because Hatton was overrated like we said. Excuse me he was overrated until PAC beat him. After the PAC fight Hatton went right back to being a great fighter who lost to another great fighter.
All i want is for people to be consitant. I gotta go to class i'll be back later.
Well since i know for a fact that I made that comment about hatton i assume that youre speaking about me. Now it is fact that even before They fought, I mean immediately after floyd beat gatti, people were talking about that fight. My exact words then:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boxer
"It would look just like the Gatti fight except hatton would take more damage because he's stronger"
Then on the night of the fight I picked floyd in 10...
If its consistency you ask that's what my comment is rooted in. Staying the course and wanting Floyd to clean out the division by actually fighting the guys in the division not giving him "on paper" victories.
Does Floyd have what it takes to beat them all? Yes! Did he beat them? No!
No i wasn't speaking to you directly. Maybe indirectly if you don't think PBF doesn't deserve credit for beating Hatton. i Just don't understand why he gets no credit for this fight.
When the Judah fight was first proposed most people were very excited because they felt like this was a great match up and was a fight that fans wanted to see for years. Now when Judah stepped into the ring with Baldamir the Judah PBF was already a done deal and scheduled for april 8th. Also lets not forget that Judah was the WW champ when the PBF Judah fight was first set to happen. Hence the reason the PBF Judah fight still took place after Judah lost to Baldamir.
Floyd got total credit for his wins against everyone except this past bullshit with marquez
There are a lot of people who down PBF for fighting Hatton. To me that was his most meaningful above 135. JMM small but at the same time it's not like PBF does that all the time and JMM is top 5 P4P.
Also lets be real i love JMM but he wouldn't have beat an 130lb PBF but
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Originally Posted by The Boxer
Its not about whether he'd have beat him, but floyd isnt 120-107 better than a well conditioned marquez without that huge weight advantage. And it seems that just like FLoyd, most of his fans believe that if people arent saying
"hey floyd that was the greatest performance ever until your next fight and will you please aim for my left nostril when you skeet" then you must be a hater or jealous.
You must be kidding?
Mayweather steps into the ring with Shane Mosley, Cotto, Clottey, Antonio Margarito and what everyone wants Pacquiao and hes stepping into a fight. Any fight and it's a win. Stepping into the ring against Paul Williams would earn something more from fans that he doesn't get from most and that is respect.
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Originally Posted by fan johnny
I'll be the first to say that if he fights paul williams its not that impressive...I still dont think he's ready for a boxer like floyd. Quintana schooled him. And until Paul develops a "real" jab floyd will stay low and beat him.
This thread is a joke. Every one of floyd fans know deep down who he's ducking. If he fights Mosley (before he gets any older), Cotto (if he gets past Pac), or P Will (if he can still make 147), then he has proven himself wether he wins or loses.
In the end, floyd is the one who has to live with not taking the risks. All the above mentioned fighters have better resumes than floyd. Well maybe not Paul yet but if he gets more guys to fight him he will. He's not to blame for guys not wanting to take the risk of fighting him although i think he should remain at 154 or 160 to have more competitive fight because i think he's just too big for these guys.
Cotto and Shane match up well with floyd stylewise. Moreso Shane IMO but Paul would be a nightmare for floyd. You can talk about the Quintana fight all you want but if you know anything about boxing then you would know how styles affect fights.
Quintanas defence is based on movement and thats how he was able to cut Pauls punch output in half by making him miss and good timely counters. floyd on the other hand defends himself by rolling his shoulder mostly and staying in the pocket and and that would play greatly into Pauls strategy.
Stop making floyd look like the victim here. The victims are the people who fall into the deceit of thinking he's really looking to take a risk and pay money for PPVs or whatever they do to watch the fight.
Plain and simple bro, the guy is a fraud. Stop being fooled.
I point you to PBF-CORRALES and tell me if you think FLoyd can't move to avoid punches. If Quintana moved to beat him, Floyd would do the same. Floyd only sits in the pocket after he feel's he's in control of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
You may be right but talk is cheap. Let's see if he can actually do it like Quintana did.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherI point you to PBF-CORRALES and tell me if you think FLoyd can't move to avoid punches. If Quintana moved to beat him, Floyd would do the same. Floyd only sits in the pocket after he feel's he's in control of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Secondly, I know your now comparing Corrales to Williams. You are talking about a guy 3-4 inches taller who is stronger, throws way more punches and has a way better chin.
No, he was talking about Mayweather's ability to move around the ring rather than sit in the pocket. He didn't say anything about KOing Williams, just that Mayweather would move around him & under his punches to box to a win. Which if Quintana can do, Mayweather certainly can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NYYou may be right but talk is cheap. Let's see if he can actually do it like Quintana did.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherI point you to PBF-CORRALES and tell me if you think FLoyd can't move to avoid punches. If Quintana moved to beat him, Floyd would do the same. Floyd only sits in the pocket after he feel's he's in control of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Secondly, I know your now comparing Corrales to Williams. You are talking about a guy 3-4 inches taller who is stronger, throws way more punches and has a way better chin.
Its funny that he got stuck on the Corrales part instead of the Floyd being able to move part. Which also brings me back his own reasoning that Quintana was able to win because his movement didn't allow paul to throw a lot of punches. Floyd would circle him all night, it would look almost exactly like corrales v floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinNo, he was talking about Mayweather's ability to move around the ring rather than sit in the pocket. He didn't say anything about KOing Williams, just that Mayweather would move around him & under his punches to box to a win. Which if Quintana can do, Mayweather certainly can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NYYou may be right but talk is cheap. Let's see if he can actually do it like Quintana did.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Secondly, I know your now comparing Corrales to Williams. You are talking about a guy 3-4 inches taller who is stronger, throws way more punches and has a way better chin.
Paul williams' size is an advantage, but he doesn't use it. If he used his Jab, floyd would be in serious trouble as would any fighter @ 147, because paul would dwarf them.
You are not capable of making me stuck in any way when it comes to boxing. You are the only one thats stuck believing the hype. Get your boxing IQ up before running your mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherIts funny that he got stuck on the Corrales part instead of the Floyd being able to move part. Which also brings me back his own reasoning that Quintana was able to win because his movement didn't allow paul to throw a lot of punches. Floyd would circle him all night, it would look almost exactly like corrales v floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinNo, he was talking about Mayweather's ability to move around the ring rather than sit in the pocket. He didn't say anything about KOing Williams, just that Mayweather would move around him & under his punches to box to a win. Which if Quintana can do, Mayweather certainly can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Paul williams' size is an advantage, but he doesn't use it. If he used his Jab, floyd would be in serious trouble as would any fighter @ 147, because paul would dwarf them.
Nice comeback to his points, you really showed a good knowledge of facts there. You know your boxing :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NYYou are not capable of making me stuck in any way when it comes to boxing. You are the only one thats stuck believing the hype. Get your boxing IQ up before running your mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherIts funny that he got stuck on the Corrales part instead of the Floyd being able to move part. Which also brings me back his own reasoning that Quintana was able to win because his movement didn't allow paul to throw a lot of punches. Floyd would circle him all night, it would look almost exactly like corrales v floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
Paul williams' size is an advantage, but he doesn't use it. If he used his Jab, floyd would be in serious trouble as would any fighter @ 147, because paul would dwarf them.
No you must be kidding. No matter who PBF fights people will discredit his win.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
PAC will be called a Blown up feather weight.
Shane will be become old all of a sudden
Cotto will become overrated and was ruin by Margarito
Clottey will be said to have never really been that great in the first place
Margarito will be called an overrated cheater.
Paul Williams will be called a bum who was stopped by Quintina.
This is what the people will say. They beg for these fights to happen ie, Hatton PBF but when the fight doesn't end the way they hoped (PBF losing) they discredit the fight.
First, every fighter at the top of the p4p list undergoes increased levels of scrutiny and rightly so. Just look at Pacquiao. He is fighting Cotto at a catch weight (albeit by only two pounds). Hatton had already been knocked out; ODLH was weight-drained; (if he wins) Cotto was ruined by Margarito. It is not just Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by The BoxerNo you must be kidding. No matter who PBF fights people will discredit his win.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
PAC will be called a Blown up feather weight.
Shane will be become old all of a sudden
Cotto will become overrated and was ruin by Margarito
Clottey will be said to have never really been that great in the first place
Margarito will be called an overrated cheater.
Paul Williams will be called a bum who was stopped by Quintina.
This is what the people will say. They beg for these fights to happen ie, Hatton PBF but when the fight doesn't end the way they hoped (PBF losing) they discredit the fight.
Second, the criticism on Floyd as I said in a previous post is only because as a welterweight Floyd hasn't done very much considering that many think him to be the best in the sport.
Don't you consider it a little odd that a "blown up featherweight" (your words, not mine) is fighting Miguel Cotto before Floyd fought Cotto? Floyd has campaigned at the weight class for 5 years and never fought Cotto. This is Manny's first fight at welterweight and he is already fighting Cotto and Cotto is better than any welterweight Floyd ever fought.
Very well said:appl:Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratFirst, every fighter at the top of the p4p list undergoes increased levels of scrutiny and rightly so. Just look at Pacquiao. He is fighting Cotto at a catch weight (albeit by only two pounds). Hatton had already been knocked out; ODLH was weight-drained; (if he wins) Cotto was ruined by Margarito. It is not just Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by The BoxerNo you must be kidding. No matter who PBF fights people will discredit his win.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
PAC will be called a Blown up feather weight.
Shane will be become old all of a sudden
Cotto will become overrated and was ruin by Margarito
Clottey will be said to have never really been that great in the first place
Margarito will be called an overrated cheater.
Paul Williams will be called a bum who was stopped by Quintina.
This is what the people will say. They beg for these fights to happen ie, Hatton PBF but when the fight doesn't end the way they hoped (PBF losing) they discredit the fight.
Second, the criticism on Floyd as I said in a previous post is only because as a welterweight Floyd hasn't done very much considering that many think him to be the best in the sport.
Don't you consider it a little odd that a "blown up featherweight" (your words, not mine) is fighting Miguel Cotto before Floyd fought Cotto? Floyd has campaigned at the weight class for 5 years and never fought Cotto. This is Manny's first fight at welterweight and he is already fighting Cotto and Cotto is better than any welterweight Floyd ever fought.
In parliamentary mode : " hear ye, hear ye" :cool:
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Originally Posted by RantcatratFirst, every fighter at the top of the p4p list undergoes increased levels of scrutiny and rightly so. Just look at Pacquiao. He is fighting Cotto at a catch weight (albeit by only two pounds). Hatton had already been knocked out; ODLH was weight-drained; (if he wins) Cotto was ruined by Margarito. It is not just Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by The BoxerNo you must be kidding. No matter who PBF fights people will discredit his win.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
PAC will be called a Blown up feather weight.
Shane will be become old all of a sudden
Cotto will become overrated and was ruin by Margarito
Clottey will be said to have never really been that great in the first place
Margarito will be called an overrated cheater.
Paul Williams will be called a bum who was stopped by Quintina.
This is what the people will say. They beg for these fights to happen ie, Hatton PBF but when the fight doesn't end the way they hoped (PBF losing) they discredit the fight.
Second, the criticism on Floyd as I said in a previous post is only because as a welterweight Floyd hasn't done very much considering that many think him to be the best in the sport.
Don't you consider it a little odd that a "blown up featherweight" (your words, not mine) is fighting Miguel Cotto before Floyd fought Cotto? Floyd has campaigned at the weight class for 5 years and never fought Cotto. This is Manny's first fight at welterweight and he is already fighting Cotto and Cotto is better than any welterweight Floyd ever fought.
I never said that other fighters don't get scruntized. Yes you could make those arguments about PAC but people never do. Thats my whole point. What you said was correct but people don't make those points about PAC.
I wasn't calling PAC a blown up feather weight. What i was doing is saying that what others will call him. Yes i do think it is odd that PAC is fighting cotto before PBF. PBF should have fought Cotto by now but expect those fight to coming soon. PBF first wealter weight fight was late 2005. he retired in late 2007 early 2008 so lates stop with the 5 year thing that everyone keeps throwing around. 5 years would be late 2005 to late 2010. even if PBF hadn't of retired it hasn't been 5 years yet.
I can't believe how many excuses you guys make for floyd not fighting top level welters. I don't say top names because top names doesn't necessarily mean top notch anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by The BoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratFirst, every fighter at the top of the p4p list undergoes increased levels of scrutiny and rightly so. Just look at Pacquiao. He is fighting Cotto at a catch weight (albeit by only two pounds). Hatton had already been knocked out; ODLH was weight-drained; (if he wins) Cotto was ruined by Margarito. It is not just Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boxer
Second, the criticism on Floyd as I said in a previous post is only because as a welterweight Floyd hasn't done very much considering that many think him to be the best in the sport.
Don't you consider it a little odd that a "blown up featherweight" (your words, not mine) is fighting Miguel Cotto before Floyd fought Cotto? Floyd has campaigned at the weight class for 5 years and never fought Cotto. This is Manny's first fight at welterweight and he is already fighting Cotto and Cotto is better than any welterweight Floyd ever fought.
I never said that other fighters don't get scruntized. Yes you could make those arguments about PAC but people never do. Thats my whole point. What you said was correct but people don't make those points about PAC.
I wasn't calling PAC a blown up feather weight. What i was doing is saying that what others will call him. Yes i do think it is odd that PAC is fighting cotto before PBF. PBF should have fought Cotto by now but expect those fight to coming soon. PBF first wealter weight fight was late 2005. he retired in late 2007 early 2008 so lates stop with the 5 year thing that everyone keeps throwing around. 5 years would be late 2005 to late 2010. even if PBF hadn't of retired it hasn't been 5 years yet.
Do you realize how ridiculous it sounds for you to say that he didn't get a chance to fight these guys because he retired? Nonsense!!
Truth is that he came back because he saw Pac on top of P4P rankings and he thought to himself, "Now this guy is small enough to take a chance on". Just like when Ricky called him out, and Marquez called him out. He was happy to take those fights but when Shane told him to his face, all he could do was utter or should I say stutter a few useless words to prove he wants no part of any of the top guys in his weight class.
First off A PBF PAC fight generates the most money right now. It is also the fight that fans seem to want to see the most. Cotto for whatever reason seems to be a distant third behind shane for possible opponets for PBF.
Second PBF called Shane out damn there 10 years ago when Shane was the top dog and rated very high P4P but Shane declined. Now PBF is on top and Shane wants a fight so PBF is supposed to run to him. Fuck out here. So don't give me that shane shit. A year or so ago people said Shane was done. People need to stop being so quick to judge.
Third no body said that PBF didn't get a chance to fight these guys. He made that choice. He fought Hatton the fighter that so many people said would be to strong for PBF and KOed him. Then retired for god knows what reason only to come back just like everyone knew he would.
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That is a fucking lie..No one has any video or article supporting that claim. Please point me to the video or the article in which Floyd says specifically that he wanted to fight Shane Mosley.
I'm not talking vague bullshit such as "I'll fight anybody" Or "I'll fight this guy him included"...I want the evidence of floyd saying shane's name and shane's name only..just like shane did in the ring with him, on espn with brian kenny, at post fight presser, etc etc.
If you don't have it, then what you have said is nothing more than floyd juice constantly recycling this bullshit lie. I know its a lie because I followed floyd and shane both since they've been pro...Never after or before a floyd fight has he ever said "I want to fight shane mosley"..
I've said it in other posts, but let's just wait and see who Floyd actually fights before we pass judgment. I, for one, am the only person who thinks Pacquiao isn't getting passed Cotto and from what I've read elsewhere, he'll fight Marquez to settle the score regardless before he fights Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boxer
One thing we can agree on is that Floyd has not been a fighter willing to take on big fights at welterweight. We can at least both agree on that. Right? He has had the opportunities and for whatever reason he didn't take them.
He could have signed up to fight Shane after beating Marquez. He didn't. Sure Shane didn't fight Floyd when he could have back then, but that is then and this is now. Shane is a big fight now. Unequivocally, bigger than Marquez. Why didn't Floyd sign up to fight Shane instead of Marquez? Why didn't he sign up to fight Shane after Marquez? There are answers to each question, but still the bottom line is he hasn't fought Shane.
He admitted in the interview with RA the Rugged Man that Paul Williams is just too big. Yet, he fought ODLH at 154?
He didn't fight Margarito when he was offered 8 million to fight him.
He was in line to fight Cotto and he retired.
Now, there may be a real excuse for every single one of those situations (mostly money), but at the end of the day actions speak louder than words and Floyd hasn't done sh*t with the top of the division.
Pacquiao is fighting Cotto before Floyd fought Cotto. Pacquiao is fighting a top welterweight before Floyd when Pacquiao has never fought in the weight class before (other than ODLH) and Floyd has fought in it for at least three years. So, strange as it may sound for a guy who started fighting below 110 pounds, Pacquiao will have done more at welterweight than Floyd has come Sunday, win or lose.
Ask yourself why Pacquiao is still ranked number one p4p and will be even more entrenched if he wins on Saturday.
But, let's leave aside Pacquiao. Pacquiao clearly is beyond reproach in many areas and continually transcends our expectations. It's hard not to like him - unless you saw him sing on Jimmy Kimmel (kidding, of course).
Consider every other welterweight at the top of the division:
Consider Shane. Shane has fought Cotto and Margarito. Shane is signed up to fight Berto.
Consider Cotto. Cotto has fought Margarito, Mosley, and Clottey.
Consider Margarito. Margarito has fought Cotto, Shane, Williams, and Clottey.
Consider Paul Williams. Williams has fought Margarito and was willing to fight any of the other guys.
Consider Floyd. Floyd has NOT fought one of the above.
I'm not dissing your boy. Floyd did a ton prior to his fights at 147/140. But, keep it in perspective, at 147 he hasn't done jack.