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Then he trully is one of the ATG of all times and this generations best champion...because for him to get past Cott is going to be incredible. Cotto is looking BIG!! Episode 3 on 24/7 Cotto looked in the best shape I've ever seen him.
May be too much for Pac this time around unkless he truly is something that special
I think totally the opposite, he looks soft and not anywhere near as cut as he should be.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnixAA
Pac should of course get credit. Just with it was a proper 147 Welter limit
Pacquiao is already SOMETHING SPECIAL!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by OnixAA
Pac not only will win this fight. He will make it spectacular!! He'll dominate Cotto!!
I'm not sure he will look spectacular, then again I've been wrong about Pac the last 2 times out so i'm comitting to nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacdbest2Pacquiao is already SOMETHING SPECIAL!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by OnixAA
Pac not only will win this fight. He will make it spectacular!! He'll dominate Cotto!!
I agree he is already SOMETHING SPECIAL, any man who starts at 106lbs and is still dominating ATG fighters at 147lbs regardless of what condition they are in or what excuses you can make for them, is very special.
Maybe I should rephrase, I mean that PAc is already an A;; Time great goes without saying but I mean if he beats Cotto and then turns around and does Mayweather Im thinking like greatest of all time or something closer to that calibut of great.
In regards to Cotto, I really did just see him not so much cut up, which he did look like to me, but his arms looked huge for a guy his size, it looked like he was packing alot of lean muscle.
I mean as unbiased as you possibly can be, what if Pac beats thse two and where would he be in relation to Ali, Louis and Marciano etc?
He'd be well ahead of Marciano, would be just ahead of Louis & probably in similar standing to Ali. Still wouldn't be better than Sugar Ray Robinson though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by OnixAA
I agree. He would be mentioned in the same level as Robinson though.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinHe'd be well ahead of Marciano, would be just ahead of Louis & probably in similar standing to Ali. Still wouldn't be better than Sugar Ray Robinson though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by OnixAA
7 world titles in different weight category would be very difficult to replicate and it's something that may not happen again in the near future or even in our lifetime.:cool:
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Originally Posted by bruceleeI agree. He would be mentioned in the same level as Robinson though.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinHe'd be well ahead of Marciano, would be just ahead of Louis & probably in similar standing to Ali. Still wouldn't be better than Sugar Ray Robinson though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by OnixAA
7 world titles in different weight category would be very difficult to replicate and it's something that may not happen again in the near future or even in our lifetime.:cool:
thats exactly what i mean. he may be the greatest of this generations lifetime
Not so sure if Cotto looks in the best shape of his life. Look at his cheekbones, jaw, forearm, etc. Unless things change in these next days. I really hope so.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnixAA
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If he wins against Cotto. That's at least TOP 10 ALL TIME AFTER he retires.
Maybe TOP 20 immediately!! Pundits are HARD on active fighters.
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Originally Posted by miron_lang
Very true about active fighters. And that may be putting it lightly.
Cotto is there for the taking and Pacquiao is gonna do it. Cotto can't beat Pacquiao now. Pacquiao is gonna dominate him.
Cotto by stoppage This is a step too far for Pac imo
I wouldn't be suprised if your right but I have a gut feeling Pac will beat Cotto via a close decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
What do you think they will both weigh fight night??
I was going to start a thread to ask this, but this thread has gone down the track of condition of Pac/Cotto...
I think this fight is going to show a lot about Pac and his future, and how he'll go down in the "All Time" rankings... He is already a freak of athleticism to come from the size he has and been able to be as dynamic and formidable as he has at every single weight..
If he wins this fight, then we can look on to his potential for what is possible past Cotto.. You have to think, Cotto is in comparison with champions like Shane Mosley and Margarito and to an extent Mayweather who are guys deadly at 147 pounds.. For a Pac to beat a Cotto is pushing everything to a whole new level...
At some point people would have struggled to see Pac past 135 or that being his limit.. But if you took a Morales the champion, and taken him right up through to 147 and taken out one of the most formidable fighters there, it just shows how powerful of a legacy is being carved out here..
If he loses, then the manner in which he loses will show his potential to go on at 140/147 against other opponents and possible make another challenge to be an undisputed belt holder at those weights...
Of all Pac's career, you would say this fight right now is the defining moment... Although some would have said that of Hatton, or maybe Oscar.... But after how those fights turned out, the significance of this moment is that Cotto is a prime champion right now, and a win of Cotto for anyone is 100% legitimate... Nothing can be taking away from someone who topples him..
FUCKING ONLY 6 DAYS AWAY!!!! :clap:
told everyone morales world beat him
told everyone barrera wold beat him
told everyone marquez would beat him
told everyone again marquez would beat him
told everyone de-la hoya would beat him
told everyone hatton would beat him
Been letting anyone who wants to listen all week know cotto will beat him
If he wins this one...f*ck it, game over for me!!!
IMO , i don't think this will happen , Cotto knows that this is his only chance to keep in boxing and after this is the big opportunity to make some others good fights , he knows that have a lot to loss if that would happens , so the way that he looks right now with a great motivation , confident and determination , i don't think Pacman will win this fight ......
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Originally Posted by Macho
Hammer I'm exactly the same mate, I even though David Diaz might cause him problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
I've picked against him every single time, and I will do again if he fights Floyd.
But his last four performances have been nothing short of incredible.
If you were to name the best 5 performances by any top class boxer in the last two years or so its conceivable that Manny would feature four times.
He hasn't just won, against bigger and usually illustrious opposition, he's literally tore them up.
Floyd wouldn't have done the demolition job on Cotto that Manny did.
Manny just wins spectacularly every time in a really crowd pleasing style.
I still think Floyd will beat him though.
i'm a pacfan but i agree with you that pbf is just too much for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboHammer I'm exactly the same mate, I even though David Diaz might cause him problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
I've picked against him every single time, and I will do again if he fights Floyd.
But his last four performances have been nothing short of incredible.
If you were to name the best 5 performances by any top class boxer in the last two years or so its conceivable that Manny would feature four times.
He hasn't just won, against bigger and usually illustrious opposition, he's literally tore them up.
Floyd wouldn't have done the demolition job on Cotto that Manny did.
Manny just wins spectacularly every time in a really crowd pleasing style.
I still think Floyd will beat him though.
still i want this fight to happen! who knows?
For me PACMAN moving throught the wieghts and carrying his speed and power at top level , is one of the most astonishing things in the history of boxing. Even is Floyd beats Manny , his place in history is unquestioned.
ATG all the way for me.