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I am bracing my self for more incoming fire than a small Afgan village that is hidding Bin Ladin.;D
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I am bracing my self for more incoming fire than a small Afgan village that is hidding Bin Ladin.;D
I don't really see how even the most avid Haye supporter could feel MORE confident about his chances against either Klitschko after that win over Valuev(he did deserve the nod no question imo). The only one's who will have any real reason to laugh are those who are expecting him to lose via KO, as that's almost certainly what will happen.
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Originally Posted by porkypara
ha ha thats quality mate;D
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Yes I agree with what you say reguarding Haye fighting the Klitschko's.
As I watched the Valuev fight I was thinking how will Haye manage with a boxer almost as big but much better in every department as Valuev.
But as George Michael said "you got to have faith".
If Haye says he can do it then who are we to say he cant.:-\
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Yes I agree with what you say reguarding Haye fighting the Klitschko's.
As I watched the Valuev fight I was thinking how will Haye manage with a boxer almost as big but much better in every department as Valuev.
But as George Michael said "you got to have faith".
If Haye says he can do it then who are we to say he cant.:-\
easy, we're the guys that can see he's full of shit, and that he'll get horribly stopped, he'll get stopped by the 8th against Wlad and probably around the 5th against Vitali
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleseasy, we're the guys that can see he's full of shit, and that he'll get horribly stopped, he'll get stopped by the 8th against Wlad and probably around the 5th against VitaliQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Yes I agree with what you say reguarding Haye fighting the Klitschko's.
As I watched the Valuev fight I was thinking how will Haye manage with a boxer almost as big but much better in every department as Valuev.
But as George Michael said "you got to have faith".
If Haye says he can do it then who are we to say he cant.:-\
Thats what peolpe said when Ali faced Forman and looked what happened there.
I am not saying for a second that Haye is as good as Ali but the Klitchsko boys arnt exactly George Forman either.
Exactly. Haye will be the underdog as far as bookmakers go, but I just think he'll cause both of them problems they have never faced before, the main one being, they have both faced fast fighters (although none as fast as Haye) and they have both faced power punchers, but they have never fought someone who has both and that is what Haye brings to the table.Quote:
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleseasy, we're the guys that can see he's full of shit, and that he'll get horribly stopped, he'll get stopped by the 8th against Wlad and probably around the 5th against VitaliQuote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Thats what peolpe said when Ali faced Forman and looked what happened there.
I am not saying for a second that Haye is as good as Ali but the Klitchsko boys arnt exactly George Forman either.
....ok I think the Haye Bandwagon is careening out of control and just went off a cliffside. Wlad-Haye compared to Foreman-Ali?!?!?! WTF they don't resemble each other in the slightest.
You guys keep on hyping Haye, who's to say he gets past John Ruiz?
ME. Are you going on record as saying Haye won't beat Ruiz?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Not quite sure as to the validity of Haye being a Sheriff to the Klits, but......
Haye is no Roy Jones, but if he outboxed Ruiz through twelve with consumate ease but just lack the power to take him out, David Haye is going to wax John Ruiz.
Well mate, you did say he should beat a couple of proper heavies before facing either brother, is Valuev and Ruiz not good enough? Seems you are bashing him no matter who he fightsQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by themacmagician
Nobody in boxing right now is roy jones period
You cant use that comparison. If roy was 6`5 he`d own both klitschkos and the hayemaker all in the same night on his prime
Vitali is way too schooled for haye, but with wlad you havent got that resistance and i honestly think if it comes down to it wlad will go chasing a knockout artist!!
If you actually read the post you will realise that I am not comparing Wlad-Haye to Ali-Forman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Lyle,your hatred of Haye clouds your views on any Haye related topic.
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Originally Posted by porkyparaIf you actually read the post you will realise that I am not comparing Wlad-Haye to Ali-Forman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Lyle,your hatred of Haye clouds your views on any Haye related topic.
just like bilbo
Im not exactly hayes biggest fan (millwall c*nt) but its very rare we do get a british world champion and should be embracing the guy rather than hoping that a couple of germans turn him over!!
absolutley patheticQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaIf you actually read the post you will realise that I am not comparing Wlad-Haye to Ali-Forman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Lyle,your hatred of Haye clouds your views on any Haye related topic.
just like bilbo
Im not exactly hayes biggest fan (millwall c*nt) but its very rare we do get a british world champion and should be embracing the guy rather than hoping that a couple of germans turn him over!!
Well judging by his performance vs Valuev, I think he'll have problems. Your punch output can't be that low constantly. Yes I know Haye broke his hand, but either way John Ruiz has a decent chin, he's got an awkward style, and he punches with decent power. It's not a given that Haye will breeze through that fight....if he did fine. Yes I said that Haye needed more experience before fighting Wlad or Vitali and Ruiz will be a challenge for him....can you Haye fans not accept that David WILL be challenged???Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
Of course but for me not by Ruiz.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleWell judging by his performance vs Valuev, I think he'll have problems. Your punch output can't be that low constantly. Yes I know Haye broke his hand, but either way John Ruiz has a decent chin, he's got an awkward style, and he punches with decent power. It's not a given that Haye will breeze through that fight....if he did fine. Yes I said that Haye needed more experience before fighting Wlad or Vitali and Ruiz will be a challenge for him....can you Haye fans not accept that David WILL be challenged???Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
And if he is challenged by Ruiz?Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
If he does not KO or get a clear impressive decision against Ruiz, I would then worry for him against either Klitschko. But as i said I think he beats Ruiz comfortably.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleAnd if he is challenged by Ruiz?Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
Maybe I should have just said that Haye is CERTAINLY no RJJ, would that have satiisfied, but, i still stand by my opinion that if Jones can absolutely outbox Ruiz to pieces hands down but just struggle to knock him out due to no power at such a high weight, then David haye will have enough speed and ability coupled with probable power at heavyweight, to wax Ruiz, simple, as logn as Ruiz doesn't manage to bear hug Haye all night that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by themacmagician
Nobody in boxing right now is roy jones period
You cant use that comparison. If roy was 6`5 he`d own both klitschkos and the hayemaker all in the same night on his prime
Vitali is way too schooled for haye, but with wlad you havent got that resistance and i honestly think if it comes down to it wlad will go chasing a knockout artist!!
One thing that impressed me about Haye at weekend was his ability to avoids the clinches with Valuev, now I know that Ruiz is probably the best in the world at clinching, but that is against current clumbersome heavys which Haye is not. Roy Jones only got clinched when he wanted to be and if Haye lands half the straight right hands Roy did against a much younger Ruiz, it will be lights out!!Quote:
Originally Posted by themacmagicianMaybe I should have just said that Haye is CERTAINLY no RJJ, would that have satiisfied, but, i still stand by my opinion that if Jones can absolutely outbox Ruiz to pieces hands down but just struggle to knock him out due to no power at such a high weight, then David haye will have enough speed and ability coupled with probable power at heavyweight, to wax Ruiz, simple, as logn as Ruiz doesn't manage to bear hug Haye all night that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by themacmagician
Nobody in boxing right now is roy jones period
You cant use that comparison. If roy was 6`5 he`d own both klitschkos and the hayemaker all in the same night on his prime
Vitali is way too schooled for haye, but with wlad you havent got that resistance and i honestly think if it comes down to it wlad will go chasing a knockout artist!!
Ehmm.... why germans?:confused: And you should love Millwall fans, without them, the Millwall FC wouldn't exist and your lovely and fierce rivalry with them wouldn't exist.Quote:
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Originally Posted by porkyparaIf you actually read the post you will realise that I am not comparing Wlad-Haye to Ali-Forman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Lyle,your hatred of Haye clouds your views on any Haye related topic.
just like bilbo
Im not exactly hayes biggest fan (millwall c*nt) but its very rare we do get a british world champion and should be embracing the guy rather than hoping that a couple of germans turn him over!!