Kessler/Froch...who wins?

Having seen Kessler having a very rough time of it against Ward, it has got me thinking about Kessler against Froch. I was thinking Kessler would have come into this tournament looking much better than he did against Ward. I wasn't massively impressed with Ward and thought his spoiling tactics were deplorable, but Kessler really wasn't coming back with all that much at all. Kessler did look rusty in his comeback and now this showing. Perhaps the Calzaghe fight affected him a lot more than the odds were suggesting. I don't know, just random thoughts really.

But going into the Froch fight, Kesslers confidence will have taken another huge knock and just maybe Froch is in the right position at the right time to press for the win. I had always thought Kessler to be the man to beat in this tournament, but he really didn't look all there against Ward. Maybe Kessler will bounce back and have Froch bouncing off of his fists, but I must admit that there are a few doubts now.

So, who do you have winning in this fight now?

I'm going with Kessler on points. Disapointed in Mikkel, i honestly thought he was close to top 10 p4p . But I still think that Froch has a style made for Kessler and it would be a close win on points for Kessler. Ward beats Froch easily though if they fight.

Right now Ward is a top 20 p4p fighter for sure. First Miranda and now Kessler so easily. He could actually be the winner of the tournament.

But my pick is Abraham

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Originally Posted by gest12645

I'm going with Kessler on points. Disapointed in Mikkel, i honestly thought he was close to top 10 p4p . But I still think that Froch has a style made for Kessler and it would be a close win on points for Kessler. Ward beats Froch easily though if they fight.

Right now Ward is a top 20 p4p fighter for sure. First Miranda and now Kessler so easily. He could actually be the winner of the tournament.

But my pick is Abraham

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That's what I had always imagined. Froch is stationary and at least there to be hit with the 1-2's. Stylistically, you would think Kessler has all the advantages.

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Originally Posted by gest12645

I'm going with Kessler on points. Disapointed in Mikkel, i honestly thought he was close to top 10 p4p . But I still think that Froch has a style made for Kessler and it would be a close win on points for Kessler. Ward beats Froch easily though if they fight.

Right now Ward is a top 20 p4p fighter for sure. First Miranda and now Kessler so easily. He could actually be the winner of the tournament.

But my pick is Abraham

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I agree 100%. The Armenian fighting out of Deutschland takes it all. He just has too many skills and too much power.

I changed my mind to Froch. I think Kessler's confidence took a hit. He said he was really down after the Calzaghe loss. This would at least double that depression and bring doubt. Kessler came in saying Ward would immediately see the difference how much better he is. Those first 4 rounds had to sap Kessler's confidence a lot. This one will stick for a while. And Kessler just doesn't have another gear or a way to adjust. I was freaking out how Kessler just kept doing the exact same few things continually. I had no idea Kessler was so predictable. Ward did his job but Kessler made this easier than even Ward expected.

have not voted yet, I have to think about it, lets se how Kessler reacts :)

One thing though, we now know Kessler can take some punishment :eek:

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Originally Posted by thewhale

have not voted yet, I have to think about it, lets se how Kessler reacts :)

One thing though, we now know Kessler can take some punishment :eek:

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Same here. I started the thread, but have not found myself able to vote in it yet. :-\

I just wanna see a good fight, this tourney is becoming a stinker with these runners/spoilers Ward and Dirrel.

Kessler Froch should be a good fight as they will actually fight and not try nick the fight with shitty tactics.

I'm gonna go with Kessler.

Froch is easy to hit and comes forward, He is stylistically much better for Kessler.

I figured Ward was going to be tailor made for Kessler just because Ward has a weakish chin and he beat Miranda but struggled against him late on in the fight.

Mikkel really disappointed me, I had him as the favorite going into this Tournament and Abraham as the #2, but obviously Kessler has slipped up big time and will need to rebound vs Froch. Kessler has experience but he apparently didn't use any last night as he was bothered by things that even amateur fighters can avoid.

Abraham is now the CLEAR favorite for the entire tournament and Kessler will be lucky to even finish second.

Not as onesided as I originally thought. The Dane doesn't seem to react well when hit. Maybe Froch can duff him up. Or probably get knocked out.

i would still favor Kess over Froch. Ward just had the style to beat Kess and Froch dont have that style his chin is way to open.

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Originally Posted by miles

Having seen Kessler having a very rough time of it against Ward, it has got me thinking about Kessler against Froch. I was thinking Kessler would have come into this tournament looking much better than he did against Ward. I wasn't massively impressed with Ward and thought his spoiling tactics were deplorable, but Kessler really wasn't coming back with all that much at all. Kessler did look rusty in his comeback and now this showing. Perhaps the Calzaghe fight affected him a lot more than the odds were suggesting. I don't know, just random thoughts really.

But going into the Froch fight, Kesslers confidence will have taken another huge knock and just maybe Froch is in the right position at the right time to press for the win. I had always thought Kessler to be the man to beat in this tournament, but he really didn't look all there against Ward. Maybe Kessler will bounce back and have Froch bouncing off of his fists, but I must admit that there are a few doubts now.

So, who do you have winning in this fight now?

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Or perhaps Kessler was just not as great as the Calzaghe groupies claimed he was. Based on what I saw last night, I think it's a 50-50 fight. And wouldn't be surprised if Fraud pulled out the stoppage win

I think itz goin to be a close fight but Kessler wins unless his cuts get in the way.

I think its a close fight but i went with Kessler mainly in the hope of seeing Froch get laid out

Kessler is a good fighter; but has been overrated for a long time. He does most things well but is unable to adapt and has no inside game at all.

I think if Froch fights inside he'll clearly beat Kessler, If he uses roughhouses Kessler as is his strong point he'll clearly beat Kessler unless he stands mid range and tries to box with Kessler (Which he may be dumb enough to do) he wins in my opinion.

I'm not sure if he can beat Abraham however as he tends to let other fighters hit him and Abraham hits hard.

Against Ward I think he does well as although Ward is a smart fighter with speed and ring smarts Froch has done well against two fighters (Pascal & Taylor) who have simmilar attributes! he was out boxed for long periods by both but seems to have the willpower to breakdown these opponents. unlike Kessler.

If Kessler hasn't gone to pieces it'll be a lot like Kessler-Andrade.

still think kessler

a lot of people on here are diminishing kesslers efforts last night rather than actually paying attention to a new found world class fighter to look over

Sure kessler came across a situation which was pretty much tailor made for andre ward, everything from the crowd to the ref was designed to help ward win the fight. But it was still an awesome display from a guy who deserves a hell of a lot of recognition now.

Against froch he doesnt have to worry about the speed of ward or the awkwardness of calzaghe, i still see mikkel being too much for froch

Hate the c:censored:
But I'll take Froch:-\

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Originally Posted by miles

Having seen Kessler having a very rough time of it against Ward, it has got me thinking about Kessler against Froch. I was thinking Kessler would have come into this tournament looking much better than he did against Ward. I wasn't massively impressed with Ward and thought his spoiling tactics were deplorable, but Kessler really wasn't coming back with all that much at all. Kessler did look rusty in his comeback and now this showing. Perhaps the Calzaghe fight affected him a lot more than the odds were suggesting. I don't know, just random thoughts really.

But going into the Froch fight, Kesslers confidence will have taken another huge knock and just maybe Froch is in the right position at the right time to press for the win. I had always thought Kessler to be the man to beat in this tournament, but he really didn't look all there against Ward. Maybe Kessler will bounce back and have Froch bouncing off of his fists, but I must admit that there are a few doubts now.

So, who do you have winning in this fight now?

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Or perhaps Kessler was just not as great as the Calzaghe groupies claimed he was. Based on what I saw last night, I think it's a 50-50 fight. And wouldn't be surprised if Fraud pulled out the stoppage win

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At some point you should stop calling him Fraud. Maybe if he beat Kessler. Think about it, if he beat Kessler, which I unlike you, think won't happen, it means he has a string of victories over Pascal (current light heavyweight champ), Taylor (former middleweight champ), Dirrell, and Kessler (former super middleweight champ). Is there a better streak at or around that weight?