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A better post would have been labeled "Mosley/Mayweather want no part of Paul Williams." And you could list a couple more top welterweights.
You need to read the article again:Quote:
Originally Posted by blegit
Dan Goossen: "your right that Pacquiao would never step into the ring with Paul Williams but I believe Floyd Mayweather would."
pw is willing to go back to 147 if it's mosley or floyd but won't do it if it's for clottey.
Mosley already stated that he wants none of Williams.
If Mosley doesn't want it with Williams, what makes Williams think Floyd will ? ;D
Williams should forget 147, He won't get any fights there. He is too damn big.
He can be dominant at 154 and 160.
Mosley and Mayweather does not want to fight Paul for it's a high risk low reward fight for them. They might as well fight the cash cow and smaller fighter in PAC.
I dont remember caring what you think about a better post....hop offQuote:
Originally Posted by blegit
i just wish that these type of fights really happened but i know its a dream cause even if he was a number 1 contender most likely people would pull out off the fight
floyd/mosley avoiding williams and williams avoiding clottey.
Since when are either Floyd or Mosley avoiding either of those guys? Didn't Floyd retire the same summer Williams KO'd Quintana? And then when he came back it's just been Marquez, whom he fought while Williams had another fight lined up right? Didn't Williams camp make an offer to Clottey for a fight? I believe they did but it was dismissed as a 'low-ball' offer and Williams signed to fight Martinez. Clottey was set to go with Quintana but that fight was scrapped when Williams' fight with Pavlik went out.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
I hate all this ducking stuff, they aren't ducking each other, it just so happens they haven't fought each other yet. We would still have people screaming that Berto is being ducked. Before long, Saul Alvarez is being ducked.
If Berto beats Shane be prepared for "Floyd is ducking Berto" threads :pQuote:
Originally Posted by amatSince when are either Floyd or Mosley avoiding either of those guys? Didn't Floyd retire the same summer Williams KO'd Quintana? And then when he came back it's just been Marquez, whom he fought while Williams had another fight lined up right? Didn't Williams camp make an offer to Clottey for a fight? I believe they did but it was dismissed as a 'low-ball' offer and Williams signed to fight Martinez. Clottey was set to go with Quintana but that fight was scrapped when Williams' fight with Pavlik went out.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
I hate all this ducking stuff, they aren't ducking each other, it just so happens they haven't fought each other yet. We would still have people screaming that Berto is being ducked. Before long, Saul Alvarez is being ducked.
Shane is ducking Paul Williams but Shane always ducks people he intends to fight, remember a few years ago when he said he wanted none of Margarito because he wasn't ready. Years later he fought and beat him. But Shane doesn't have the years to do that again
clottey turned down a fight with williams since williams wanted it at 154. williams will only go down to 147 for a mosley or floyd fight but not for clottey.Quote:
Originally Posted by amatSince when are either Floyd or Mosley avoiding either of those guys? Didn't Floyd retire the same summer Williams KO'd Quintana? And then when he came back it's just been Marquez, whom he fought while Williams had another fight lined up right? Didn't Williams camp make an offer to Clottey for a fight? I believe they did but it was dismissed as a 'low-ball' offer and Williams signed to fight Martinez. Clottey was set to go with Quintana but that fight was scrapped when Williams' fight with Pavlik went out.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
I hate all this ducking stuff, they aren't ducking each other, it just so happens they haven't fought each other yet. We would still have people screaming that Berto is being ducked. Before long, Saul Alvarez is being ducked.
williams called out mosley and floyd but never heard from both.
I read that the other day & Goosen makes some good points about all the crap about Mayweather ducking people. I also think a Mayweather-Williams fight is more likely than the others because they're both affiliated with Al Haymon.
Although I really do doubt Williams can make 147 any more seeing as he wouldn't come down to fight Martinez at 154.
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Originally Posted by terrorsidI dont remember caring what you think about a better post....hop offQuote:
Originally Posted by blegit
Lighten up kid. It is very evident that none of the name welterweights want any part of Paul Williams. He is too risky and a freak of nature...hop on.
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Originally Posted by TheBranManYou need to read the article again:Quote:
Originally Posted by blegit
Dan Goossen: "your right that Pacquiao would never step into the ring with Paul Williams but I believe Floyd Mayweather would."
I read the article and that is a quote from someone other than PBF. You can write your own article, say the same thing, quote yourself, and it still doesn't mean PBF would fight Paul Williams. Thats not what PBF is saying or even indicating. Paul has been calling out all of the named welterweights from Cotto to Mosley to Mayweather and now Pac. I'm not trying to put the boycott of Paul Williams all on PBF, because everybody always says PBF ducks everyone. I do think PBF is the only who can beat Paul Williams. But as far as fighting Paul Williams, none of them want that problem.
isn't it carlos quintana defeated paul williams already?Quote:
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Originally Posted by TheBranManYou need to read the article again:Quote:
Originally Posted by blegit
Dan Goossen: "your right that Pacquiao would never step into the ring with Paul Williams but I believe Floyd Mayweather would."
I read the article and that is a quote from someone other than PBF. You can write your own article, say the same thing, quote yourself, and it still doesn't mean PBF would fight Paul Williams. Thats not what PBF is saying or even indicating. Paul has been calling out all of the named welterweights from Cotto to Mosley to Mayweather and now Pac. I'm not trying to put the boycott of Paul Williams all on PBF, because everybody always says PBF ducks everyone. I do think PBF is the only who can beat Paul Williams. But as far as fighting Paul Williams, none of them want that problem.
Yes, but in the rematch Quintana lasted less than a round. But I was talking about the big named welterweights who choose not to fight Williams. Too much to risk too much of a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by zboltisn't it carlos quintana defeated paul williams already?Quote:
Originally Posted by blegitQuote:
Originally Posted by TheBranMan
I read the article and that is a quote from someone other than PBF. You can write your own article, say the same thing, quote yourself, and it still doesn't mean PBF would fight Paul Williams. Thats not what PBF is saying or even indicating. Paul has been calling out all of the named welterweights from Cotto to Mosley to Mayweather and now Pac. I'm not trying to put the boycott of Paul Williams all on PBF, because everybody always says PBF ducks everyone. I do think PBF is the only who can beat Paul Williams. But as far as fighting Paul Williams, none of them want that problem.
1 Of The Reasons That Nobody Wants To Fight Williams Is He Throws To Many Punches. Who Will Want To Fight A Fighter That Throws 1000+ Punches A Fight. Mosley Is A Good Fighter But I Dnt See Him Winning Against Williams. As For Mayweather Hes Got A Chance Due To The Fact That Hes A Counter Puncher. It Will Be A Good Fight But At The End Of The Fight I Got My Money On Mayweather.
He was been training for the better part of a whole year for a fight with Pavlik at 160, obviously he's not going to scratch that and go to 147 for anyone but Mayweather or Pacquiao, huge money.Quote:
Originally Posted by zboltclottey turned down a fight with williams since williams wanted it at 154. williams will only go down to 147 for a mosley or floyd fight but not for clottey.Quote:
Originally Posted by amatSince when are either Floyd or Mosley avoiding either of those guys? Didn't Floyd retire the same summer Williams KO'd Quintana? And then when he came back it's just been Marquez, whom he fought while Williams had another fight lined up right? Didn't Williams camp make an offer to Clottey for a fight? I believe they did but it was dismissed as a 'low-ball' offer and Williams signed to fight Martinez. Clottey was set to go with Quintana but that fight was scrapped when Williams' fight with Pavlik went out.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
I hate all this ducking stuff, they aren't ducking each other, it just so happens they haven't fought each other yet. We would still have people screaming that Berto is being ducked. Before long, Saul Alvarez is being ducked.
williams called out mosley and floyd but never heard from both.
At this point in time, while Mayweather is in negotiations with Pacquiao and Williams is scheduled to fight Martinez, Dan Goossen's opinion is by far the most reliable source. Even if Pacquiao beat Floyd up (which wont happen), could you honestly see him facing Williams (who at that time should still be undefeated) at 147? Roach would sooner sh** himself. Could you see Mosley taking such a big risk at this point in career when he's nearing 40? If Floyd and Williams continue their streaks, (which will boost Williams' reputation as the ultimate fighter who everyone is ducking), Floyd will have to face him, and people will pay to watch that David vs Goliath battle.Quote:
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Originally Posted by TheBranManYou need to read the article again:Quote:
Originally Posted by blegit
Dan Goossen: "your right that Pacquiao would never step into the ring with Paul Williams but I believe Floyd Mayweather would."
I read the article and that is a quote from someone other than PBF. You can write your own article, say the same thing, quote yourself, and it still doesn't mean PBF would fight Paul Williams. Thats not what PBF is saying or even indicating. Paul has been calling out all of the named welterweights from Cotto to Mosley to Mayweather and now Pac. I'm not trying to put the boycott of Paul Williams all on PBF, because everybody always says PBF ducks everyone. I do think PBF is the only who can beat Paul Williams. But as far as fighting Paul Williams, none of them want that problem.
While I admit that is all a bit far-fetched, it is definitely not the most unlikely situation for the future of the division.
Anyone that overlooks Martinez be it Goosen or whoever needs to take a step back.