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Please please please retire Roy. Your making yourself look stupid with these defeats to all this lesser opposition!!
What the hell the first punch didn't even look that hard, it looked like a punch that almost missed IMO. I'd like to see that again in better quality, then RJJ just covered up he did block quite a few of the punches. And he didn't even throw back, pretty strange IMO RJJ's punch resistance is ridiculously bad now.
I don't know, it looked a bit premature TBH. Jones was on his feet and not taking all that many hard shots, but he wasn't firing back either. It was a little bit Manfredo/Calzaghe for me. Jones was wobbly but trying to buy himself time, but it was playing with fire just hoping the storm would subside and the ref was having none of it.
A bit lame all in all, the shot that knocked him down seemed more a glancing blow than anything else too.
Watching it again, I just think the fight is bizarre. Jones fought a downright peculiar fight out there. Good on Green for doing what needed to be done, but Jones fought plain old weird.
You have to wonder how Green might have faired if Jones was able to work his way through the round because he was throwing an awful lot and trying to put power behind most of them. He would most likely have gassed after half a dozen rounds. But that's just wishful thinking on my part, Jones was stopped in the first and it doesn't matter how much I daydream.
That punch looked like it caught him high up on the side / back of the head and Jones looked like he was completely gone to me, especially when he went back to the ropes the last time just before the ref stopped it. He looked drunk..... Is Danny Green that big a puncher or was that just right on a perfect spot?
It looked like it grazed the back of the head to me. Jones Jr's legs did seem weird as he went back to the ropes. He looked very strange getting up too, but I'm not accustomed to seeing Jones get up after being knocked down. He was clinging to the rope in order to maintain some kind of balance.Quote:
Originally Posted by themacmagician
Green has a great knockout ratio, but I look at him as someone who has never really beaten anyone of note. He's also spent a lot of his career a bit lighter in weight. Maybe he is a monster, but Jones doesn't really have the best of chins (or back of head's) either.
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Originally Posted by miles
i agree, the fight didn't have to be stopped yet but still, it's not normal that with such punch Jones went down so to me, it should still be the end of an era.
Yeah it seemed a bit premature to me. Roy was being Roy and blocking the shots like he normally does. This fight should have gone on a little longer because of the significants of it. So where does BHop go from here, 80/20 to him now? I can't see him being upset in his fight.
Hahaha the auzzie commentators haha wat a pair of dicks.
"beating a legend you become a legend " :vd:
Not so much a glass jaw but a glass 'side of the head':confused: Calzaghe landed flush on his face harder than that and Roy was not in big trouble. Just like his KO losses once you touch the side of his head he drops like a sack of spuds.
Not nice to see I hope he hangs them up.
I was only readin this, this morning:
"Roy Jones is looking at using Wednesday's IBO cruiserweight fight with Danny Green as a springboard for his Las Vegas showdown with Bernard Hopkins in March."
:-X
I was suprised (as most were) at how quick it got stopped. But from when he went down (I actually thought it was a push at first) Green came at him with the intention of finishing it there and then.
If Jones had have thrown some punches then he would have made it to the bell. But you can't argue with the ref's call. The first rain of punches were getting blocked, but then they started getting through after the body shots and it was only a matter of time before some really big one's got through and hurt him badly.
Well at least we can finally say Green is an ATG. ;D
Good on Danny for doing what needed to be done though.
Jones should be a commentator he's good at that, no need to take anymore punishment really.
RJJ is shot....It has nothing to do with whether Green is a good puncher or not.......I think Roy is causing himself some long term physical damage with these last few fights (even if he wasnt KO'd).....Roy suffered a couple severe concusions in the Tarver and Johnson fights, I think once you get one you can become prone to getting them again and it takes less of a shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by themacmagician
Hahaha! They were truly lame! What a bunch of idiots! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
I've watched it again, I know I shouldn't have. Truly weird, Jones had no idea what to do once he got up. He could have warded off Green with a few counters, even though buzzed, but there was nothing at all. He didn't throw a single punch after getting up, he was doing alright standing there, but not a single thing coming back. It was premature, but you need to let the ref know you are in there by at least throwing something and Jones didn't know how to throw a punch.
I think it was a premature stoppage but not one that you can argue about to much extent cuz Jones is an old man.
The problem is he still tries to box like he did 20 years ago. If he wants to box at 40 thats fine but fighters need to evolve. Jones still relies too heavily on reflexes and he hasnt got them anymore . He backed into a corner with his left hand at his waist. Fine if youre young and quick but a middle aged fighter should be more experienced.
It doesnt make that much of a difference to his legacy because everyone knows he is washed up. All his fights since Ruiz mean nothing cuz he has been past it. Pople dont remember Ali as the guy who got owned by Berbick so I think Jones should be remembered for his greatness he had a decade ago.
sad day. :(
True point...... Not good to see greats get a beat down......Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I know Michael Brodie is no all time great, but i loved watching him years ago, and to see him get whooped last week by someone he would have taken care of in his day was sad too...
Sad to say Roy should had hang them up a long time ago..
here is a great quality full fight video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGBx2mG5nsY
What u talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
U never heard of the Irish legend Kevin McBride.
There point is proven ;D
I felt after the beating Roy took at the hands of Glenn Johnson he needed to hang them up because not only did he get KO'd he lost round after round after round.
Roy just retire already, go train your sons to fight, go be a commentator or a promoter or something, but just don't fight anymore!!!!
You can't really ruin a legacy but Roy sure hasn't helped his since 2003.
Coming from the country who possibly has the most biased commentators in world sport....Quote:
Originally Posted by milesHahaha! They were truly lame! What a bunch of idiots! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Sad to see, but sadder because I think we all knew it would end up this way, and just hoped it wouldn't. Theres no shame in getting up after being knocked down or coming back after you lost a belt, but you have to think about why your're still out there.
Roy liked to entertain people, but Boxing is not a sport of entertainment anymore. Its a sport of gimmicks, corrupt commisions, and half talented guys and "work-hards" taking shortcuts and being built up by the media. They do it to make big money and then retire when theyre 28. Then the IRS brings them out of retirement.
Roy had nothing left to prove, just that he wanted it. After he got it all witha heavyweight belt, he couldn't manufacture that desire... you either feel it or your don't. He should have hung it up after ruiz and let the crack fiends and punching bag journeymen of the world carve their own path or not... In a sport where people die in the ring, deliberately go to the cup to keep from being knocked out, wrap their hands in plaster, and take the padding out of gloves... you can't be in it for sh*ts and giggles...
The shot that got him was a hard shot that would rock a lot of fighters. In fact all 3 (4 if you count del valle and the half slip) were very similar. Similar area of the head (except for Tarver) and all of them were not particulary skillfull shots. Tarver had his eyes closed, Johnson was just presurring and throwing shots, Green was hooking off wildly. He was guarding his face and most not all of those situations, his opponents weren't target the side of his head, they were just throwing. Unfortunately, the fact remains that he would have blocked those shots in his prime, but that he would have been 10 feet away and taunting those guys when they were hitting nothing but air.:-\
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Originally Posted by eagleComing from the country who possibly has the most biased commentators in world sport....Quote:
Originally Posted by milesHahaha! They were truly lame! What a bunch of idiots! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Are you for real?? You obviously havent a clue, Jim Watt have you heard of him our main commentater has Haye loseing against Valuev both are commentaters had Froch getting beat, it's a myth mate, them commentaters were a fucking joke, going on as if he just beat a prime RJJ, in reality he was beating up an old man.
Hopkins - Calzaghe another example they had Calzaghe beat, so where the fuck do you get your " biased opinion from "?? Id love to no ;).
Im watchng Versus right now .They are going to show the fight at 8:00 PM EST. I saw a pop up on the screen that said "Roy Jones VS Danny Green live tonight on Versus" .LOL I should bet someone that dosen know better that Roy gets Koed in the first.
Im a big Roy fan and I will refuse to watch him fight anymore .Who would want to see him go on .If B-hop still fights him I will have no respect or him either.
That was just horrible to watch, I think the stoppage wasn't at all premature, if you're not throwing back you've got to expect the ref to step in and stop the punishment.
Green did the business, and whilst I don't think he's anywhere near being a legend, he got the win, and really put the foot down after flooring Jones Jr.
When watching it, one of my thoughts was wouldn't it be horrible refereeing that fight, where one of the all-time greatest was getting pummelled, and you had to step in and save him so early in the fight. Hope Roy calls it a day now, as y'all have mentioned, there's plenty of other jobs out there for him, though I doubt he's skint after last night's work.
i know man. i agree. johnson hit him on the same spot too. i guess thats his achilles heel huh? just like when you punch a sharks snout the damn fish flips over and goes limp for a few.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
I'm not going to disagree with you. The UK has some unbelievably poor commentators too, but those Aussie ones were hilarious. You couldn't make it up! The worst commentators in the world would have to be the Korean ones though, it has to be heard to be believed. It can be quite painful on the ears actually. We all have our anti-Lampley moments and George Foreman was always quite funny, but I actually quite like some of the American commentators. Larry Merchant is my hero.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleComing from the country who possibly has the most biased commentators in world sport....Quote:
Originally Posted by milesHahaha! They were truly lame! What a bunch of idiots! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
I don't think they were that bad, they just knew their audience. It's like listening to any sports cast directed at a specific group, in this case it just happened to be a national one.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesHahaha! They were truly lame! What a bunch of idiots! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Spot on , it was all aimed at hyping it for the Aussie audience. Let's be honest here, I think you will find that Ricky Hatton has been talked up as a living legend.............or was that just by Ricky himself. Keep in mind that Australian boxing is not exactly the coutries sporting forte so they are just drumming up general national interest. On the back of the Green win I reckon there could be another huge fight here if Green could meet the weight to get it on with Hopkins......or a leaf from Pac's book and have a catch weight ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by CFHI don't think they were that bad, they just knew their audience. It's like listening to any sports cast directed at a specific group, in this case it just happened to be a national one.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesHahaha! They were truly lame! What a bunch of idiots! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983