Seems like Junior is on some kind of juice:
Julio Cesar Chavez jr. faces fine, suspension for positive test - ESPN
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Seems like Junior is on some kind of juice:
Julio Cesar Chavez jr. faces fine, suspension for positive test - ESPN
Ok, I got my first neg rep point for this news, gift of Mikay with this tremendous, clever and sharp remark "your an evil german"
1) I am not even German, idiot, not even close.
2) I just stated the guy was discovered by the Nevada Commission for having been on illegal drugs, I didnt created a lie or anything. How is that "evil" to report such news?
3) What the fuc* does have to be an evil German has to do with finding an article about a very mediated kid getting caught with steroids?
Ohhhh welll.
Actually, Chavez tested positive for furosemide. Furosemide is one of many masking agents for steroids. A good experienced steroid user never tests positive for steroids, knowing when to cycle on and off, but can test positive for a masking agent. That is why the masking agents, most are legal, have been banned also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
I saw his last fight, and sadly quite a few of his others too, whatever he took it certainly wasn't performance enhancing!
So what is the purpose of taking a masking agent if you have nothing to reproach to yourself? just getting in troubles?Quote:
Originally Posted by blegitActually, Chavez tested positive for furosemide. Furosemide is one of many masking agents for steroids. A good experienced steroid user never tests positive for steroids, knowing when to cycle on and off, but can test positive for a masking agent. That is why the masking agents, most are legal, have been banned also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
he hasnt tested positive for steroids at all, stop the rumour mill it was a duretic to help him make weight, apparently didnt know it was banned, i think some types are and some are ok
He is a professional athlete in a sport which he knows employs drug testing, whether it was intentional or not I don't think the ignorance card should be counted as mitigation, Chavez or someone on his team should have been vetting what he's taking.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
Roids or not, it's still illegal substance.
There's a test now for being gay and over rated?
I hope he's not using any performance enhancers. Why should someone need an edge against a bunch of tomato cans.
Sweet post! But I don't think he's overrated at all. No one thinks he's good...Quote:
Originally Posted by Greig
All that coddling and opponent screening by Papa, and Junior goes and tests positive for an illegal substance.
Tsk, tsk... Junior. Tsk, tsk.
:nono:
Yeah sure, after around 40 fights he doesn't know yet which substances are good and which ones are bad, neither does his father or nobody in his team:beatdeadhorse:Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
and he is not even that good of a boxer
Well, I don't know what Chavez was on so I don't want to automatically say he was masking steroids. But masking agents are good indicators. Manny Ramirez got suspended from baseball for 50 games for testing positive for an illegal masking agent. Chavez looks guilty playing the ignorance card. But its better to test positive for an illegal masking agent than a steroid.Quote:
Originally Posted by NamelessSo what is the purpose of taking a masking agent if you have nothing to reproach to yourself? just getting in troubles?Quote:
Originally Posted by blegitActually, Chavez tested positive for furosemide. Furosemide is one of many masking agents for steroids. A good experienced steroid user never tests positive for steroids, knowing when to cycle on and off, but can test positive for a masking agent. That is why the masking agents, most are legal, have been banned also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
look at his physique, is jcc jr. on roids? ;D
http://i48.tinypic.com/2i0x8hg.jpg
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Originally Posted by zbolt
lol that's terrible. a bit funny, but mostly. terrible.
lol ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by YoungbloodQuote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
lol that's terrible. a bit funny, but mostly. terrible.
Maybe you were totally joshing but someone's physique can be very misleading. Does James Toney flabby look like he is on steroids? Toney tested positive twice. RJJ and Mosley have an average boxer build and they both tested positive for a steroid. Boxers mostly want to stay lean and just get quicker, gain more endurance, and maybe stronger. Not bigger or muscular bulkiness. There is a steroid that will enhance specifically any one of those attributes and some will do a few without even a noticeable change in physique. There are many legal supplements and ways to cut weight. I'm not saying Chavez was on a steroid but taking a banned masking agent is too risky and the punishment is too harsh for a pro athlete to be using it for anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by zboltlol ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by YoungbloodQuote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
lol that's terrible. a bit funny, but mostly. terrible.
well in all fairness diuretics arent something we ever hear much about in boxing.. everyone knows any type of steroid is a no go .. but are the rules that clear on everything else ?Quote:
Originally Posted by NamelessYeah sure, after around 40 fights he doesn't know yet which substances are good and which ones are bad, neither does his father or nobody in his team:beatdeadhorse:Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
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Originally Posted by blegitMaybe you were totally joshing but someone's physique can be very misleading. Does James Toney flabby look like he is on steroids? Toney tested positive twice. RJJ and Mosley have an average boxer build and they both tested positive for a steroid. Boxers mostly want to stay lean and just get quicker, gain more endurance, and maybe stronger. Not bigger or muscular bulkiness. There is a steroid that will enhance specifically any one of those attributes and some will do a few without even a noticeable change in physique. There are many legal supplements and ways to cut weight. I'm not saying Chavez was on a steroid but taking a banned masking agent is too risky and the punishment is too harsh for a pro athlete to be using it for anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by zboltlol ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Youngblood
too many people are under the impression that steroids will instantly make you huge, they wont ... you dont get big by accident, without proper training and nutrition to achieve muscle growth it wont just happen on its own
The list of forbidden produces is VERY clear. Plus, we're not talking a restriction list made by some dark and obscure legislation, we're talking the Nevada Athletics Commission, perhaps the most known and famous commission for Boxing and Chavez and his team fought there quite a few times, it is not like if it was something new at all. The first thing a fighter gets handed is the little book with the forbidden stuff an on top of the list are the steroids and the masking agents, it is not like what Chavez took was the only diuretics available on the market an it happened to be illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonwell in all fairness diuretics arent something we ever hear much about in boxing.. everyone knows any type of steroid is a no go .. but are the rules that clear on everything else ?Quote:
Originally Posted by NamelessYeah sure, after around 40 fights he doesn't know yet which substances are good and which ones are bad, neither does his father or nobody in his team:beatdeadhorse:Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
I think as punishment they should put him in the ring with a decent boxer! ;)
Let him go in against a real puncher and make daddy proud. Never liked his spoon fed career
This kid clearly should of taken the amateur ranks instead of wasting our time on fights that we pay for to fight country boy farm hands and street bums. I seriously think they grab his competitors from the crowd, give them a fake record and give them 1000 dollars to fight this guy. Chavez has no skills and he doesnt use his size advantage against any of his smaller opponents. Now he is juicing?????? Seriously he needs to juice to beat farm hands???? Put this kid against somebody that weve heard of and then we'll never hear about him again.
Is that freakin chavez jr's crotch hair at the top of his panties??? what the heck??????Quote:
Originally Posted by zboltlol ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by YoungbloodQuote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
lol that's terrible. a bit funny, but mostly. terrible.
yea crotch hair and panty. clearly he's on diuretics (roids). ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by BigLukeIs that freakin chavez jr's crotch hair at the top of his panties??? what the heck??????Quote:
Originally Posted by zboltlol ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Youngblood
He needs to trim his fucking bush or hide it, is that pic for real?Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
lol... that pic was taken by somebody from ESB who was at the weigh-in. what a hilarious pic
Ah Men Thats Mess Up No Good
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Originally Posted by KelHe needs to trim his fucking bush or hide it, is that pic for real?Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
He was told he needs to appeal to a new fanbase.
:gay5:
:puke:
You cnt even tell his on roids! His last performance sucked and he has no strong physic.
His pathetic i hate him.:mad:
1) he isnt, it was a diuretic, just dehyrdates your system to make it easier to make weightQuote:
Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina
2) even if he was he wouldnt be huge anyway, did Toney look like he was on roids for the ruiz fight ?
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Originally Posted by zbolt
Are you kidding me? I didn't catch the weigh in for this fight but is this picture for real? Did someone forget to tell Jr. his pubes were hangin out??? I think im gonna be sick........wooooaaaahhh!!!! I dont know why they banned him for illegal substances, they certainly havn't improved his game. Chavez will be 100 and 0 before they put him agaisnt someone other than farmboys!
I'm serious, we don't need fighters pubes peeking over their fucking pants. If I was in the crowd I'd coin the fucking bastard. Look at Arum walking off in fear of a forest fire! that is just fucking foulQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by KelHe needs to trim his fucking bush or hide it, is that pic for real?Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
He was told he needs to appeal to a new fanbase.
:gay5:
:puke:
Guy behind him's getting a whiff :throwup:Quote:
Originally Posted by KelI'm serious, we don't need fighters pubes peeking over their fucking pants. If I was in the crowd I'd coin the fucking bastard. Look at Arum walking off in fear of a forest fire! that is just fucking foulQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Kel
He was told he needs to appeal to a new fanbase.
:gay5:
:puke:
anyone showing pubes in public possibly under diuretics (or roids) ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFanQuote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
Are you kidding me? I didn't catch the weigh in for this fight but is this picture for real? Did someone forget to tell Jr. his pubes were hangin out??? I think im gonna be sick........wooooaaaahhh!!!! I dont know why they banned him for illegal substances, they certainly havn't improved his game. Chavez will be 100 and 0 before they put him agaisnt someone other than farmboys!