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Ok just for fun, let's make a prediction on which fighters we think will be in the top 10 p4p this time next year. I will concentrate mostly on up and coming fighters, so it's a prediction of who will really break through.
All votes will be visable and you can vote for as many fighters as you want so we should get a decent average.
These are just a few fighters off the top of my head and obviously 10 is the poll limit so not everyone can be included. But we will do our best.
Ok I've started. I chose three off the list.
First off, I go with Andre Ward. I really think he will win the whole Super Six and if so by next year he will be adding Jermain Taylor (if he fights), Andre Dirrell and hopefully either Froch or Abraham by the end of the year.
Actually he is scheduled to fight Taylor and Dirrell and that may not be enough to get him in unless Dirrell beats Abraham, but I think he will be very close.
Edwin Valero is maybe a hope more than a prediction. I just want him to be sensational, another Pacquaio type destruction of the higher weight classes. If he can stop De Marco and then get a fight with Funeka and win that we could be seeing him get close to the honours.
Finally I went with Tim Bradley. In some ways he think he the most likely to get there as he's almost there already. Another big win and he might well be knocking on the door.
Anyway they are my picks to be the most likely to break through.
I voted Martinez, Lopez, and Ward.
bradley's the sure bet imo. i think he's peaking right now and he already has some very good wins.
already a better fighter than p.williams.
ok ive gone with Juanma, Gamboa and Valero, three of my favorite fighters, A Juanma-Gamboa fight might spoil it for the other but it would be worth it to see these two go at it!
quick question: how can u see who voted for who after you vote?
on mine once u vote u just see the numbers not the names :-\
hmm that's odd hopefully a mod will explain. I can see the numbers and names, can everyone else?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
not the names of who voted for whomQuote:
Originally Posted by Bilbohmm that's odd hopefully a mod will explain. I can see the numbers and names, can everyone else?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
I went with Bradly- Doniare and Ward....
Donaire just needs another big win to put him back on the list...Ward assuming he does not fizzle out after the biggest win of his career and Bradly because after last saturdays performance there is nothing showing this kid is not headed that was soon...
I figure one of the 3 will pan out
Actually Donaire is still in the Ring's list at 6. As long as Vic Darchinyan keeps winning Nonito will probably able to take another year off and move up a couple more places...Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Have you seen his current schedule joke fight? He's fighting Gerson Guerrero 34-8 who in his only previous title attempt was blasted out in 2 by Ponce De Leon.
Donaire despite being world champ for two and half years has still only faced one titlist past or present in his entire career, Vic Darchinyan. It's actually a staggering record, I mean Tim Bradley has already fought 3 world champs, Amir Khan has fought 3, Paul Williams has fought 5 I believe.
Donaire has fought 1, ONE fucking world champ fighter in his entire career. It's a joke that he's rated so high. At least Bute has fought 2.
I agree, since Donaire beat Vic he has fought:Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboActually Donaire is still in the Ring's list at 6. As long as Vic Darchinyan keeps winning Nonito will probably able to take another year off and move up a couple more places...Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Have you seen his current schedule joke fight? He's fighting Gerson Guerrero 34-8 who in his only previous title attempt was blasted out in 2 by Ponce De Leon.
Donaire despite being world champ for two and half years has still only faced one titlist past or present in his entire career, Vic Darchinyan. It's actually a staggering record, I mean Tim Bradley has already fought 3 world champs, Amir Khan has fought 3, Paul Williams has fought 5 I believe.
Donaire has fought 1, ONE fucking world champ fighter in his entire career. It's a joke that he's rated so high. At least Bute has fought 2.
Louis Maldonado
Moturi Mthalane
Raul MArtinez
Rafeal Concepcion, hardly household names and none champions.
Vic has fought
Federico Catubay
Z Gorres: World class performer and championship challenger
Dmitry Kirilov IBF superflyweight champ
Christian Mijares WBC superflyweight champ and P4P ranked
Jorge Arce Multiweight world champ
Joseph Agbeko IBF bantamweight world champ.
Tomas Rojas
Now it seems strange to me that Vic lossed his title yet still was able to find great matchups like these. If anything shouldnt it have been easier for Nonito? There is a lot of hate for Vic on here but u cannot deny he likes to challenge the best win or lose.
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Originally Posted by BilboActually Donaire is still in the Ring's list at 6. As long as Vic Darchinyan keeps winning Nonito will probably able to take another year off and move up a couple more places...Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Have you seen his current schedule joke fight? He's fighting Gerson Guerrero 34-8 who in his only previous title attempt was blasted out in 2 by Ponce De Leon.
Donaire despite being world champ for two and half years has still only faced one titlist past or present in his entire career, Vic Darchinyan. It's actually a staggering record, I mean Tim Bradley has already fought 3 world champs, Amir Khan has fought 3, Paul Williams has fought 5 I believe.
Donaire has fought 1, ONE fucking world champ fighter in his entire career. It's a joke that he's rated so high. At least Bute has fought 2.
I must admit I don't follow Ring too much probably missed the last 2 issues so had no idea Doniare was still in the rankings...
I agree about Donairs level of comp his last few outings I really thought we would see him explode into fights with the biggest names available around his weight classes...
Though not to make excuses his promotion problems really make it hard to sign anything...We will have to see what happens with him I guess...I hope he doesn't turn out to be a flash in the pan...(No pun intended towards his nick name)
Can you now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbohmm that's odd hopefully a mod will explain. I can see the numbers and names, can everyone else?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
Tim Bradley = He's real close to the top 10 P4P rankings already, i could easily see him getting two more wins in 2009, to get him there aswell
Juan Manuel Lopez = Again like Timothy Bradley he's real close to the top 10 P4P rankings already, he just needs one more big win and he's there.
Andre Ward = I for certain think he has a chance, he's already beaten the best Super Middleweight, and if he wins the Super Six he will for certain be in the top 10 P4P rankings.
Edwin Valero can only fight in Texas in the USA can't he ? so its gonna be tough for him to make the top 10 P4P, but i hope he does. He's very much like the young raw Manny Pacquiao, if he shows the skills he did in sparring a few years ago, and not rely just on his power, he could very well be one of the best Lightweights and a leading contender for the top 10 P4P.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
nah man, if i hit view results before i vote, it shows me who everyone voted for, but after i vote i just see the normal private vote, can't tell who voted for anyone :-\ well I can see no one thinks much of Khan or Frochs chances next year ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HCan you now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbohmm that's odd hopefully a mod will explain. I can see the numbers and names, can everyone else?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
I think Ward and Bradley... Ward almost deffinitly if he keeps the course and a stretch but possibly Martinez...
BTW... I like how Froch has zero votes... Right where he belongs.:rolleyes::cool:
I don't think it will happen, but if Froch beats Kessler and Abraham, say what you want about the guy, but it is only fair that he approaches the top ten. It won't happen, of course.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
He won't so I won't need to waste my breath. He's got decent pop, mediocre speed and horrible mechanics... He's constantly off balance due to his horrible foot placement. He was getting out-boxed by Taylor before the destruction in the final round. Dirrell ran from him for most of the night. He's really not that good IMO. Kessler will use his superior boxing skills to dismantle him.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratI don't think it will happen, but if Froch beats Kessler and Abraham, say what you want about the guy, but it is only fair that he approaches the top ten. It won't happen, of course.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
It's a good point. Also if you look at the super six fixtures its actually hard for Ward to get in the p4p. He's set to fight Jermain Taylor and Andre Dirrell, which seeing as Froch has already beaten both won't make Ward p4p.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratI don't think it will happen, but if Froch beats Kessler and Abraham, say what you want about the guy, but it is only fair that he approaches the top ten. It won't happen, of course.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
He will need to fight three times next year to get in there imo.
If Froch beats Kessler and Abraham in the same time limit, you'd have to give the p4p honours to the Brit on acomplishments, so from a purely pragmatic perspective Froch may be just as likely to get in the p4p as Ward.
I can't see him beating Kessler or Abraham though.........
Amir Khan will be in the p4p rankings, no doubt if he keeps on fighting dangerous contenders like Salita he can become just as great as Manny as Roach says.;D
You need to click on the numbers after you have voted.. When you open the thread the results will be there Bradley has 28 or something click on the 28. You cant click on frochs 0 votes though:SQuote:
Originally Posted by Phil
I voted for Bradley and Amir Khan...... Bradley I think is good and just needs to keep doing what he is doing getting a few more good wins and he´ll get the top 10. Amir khan well I not sure what I was thinking, he probably wont be, I think he´s good though and with a few well picked opponents for him one day he´ll get close to this list.... maybe.
Actually Khan in the top 10 isn't thaaaaaaat much of a stretch by Dec 2010.Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerqYou need to click on the numbers after you have voted.. When you open the thread the results will be there Bradley has 28 or something click on the 28. You cant click on frochs 0 votes though:SQuote:
Originally Posted by Phil
I voted for Bradley and Amir Khan...... Bradley I think is good and just needs to keep doing what he is doing getting a few more good wins and he´ll get the top 10. Amir khan well I not sure what I was thinking, he probably wont be, I think he´s good though and with a few well picked opponents for him one day he´ll get close to this list.... maybe.
If he wins in March, then has a big fight in the summer, it is possible he could get a megafight with Juan Manuel Marquez by the end of the year. If he won that, he might make the top 10, just like Hatton crashed the p4p when he beat Tyszu.
It's not outside the realms of possibility. As Andre Wards next two fights are against the shot Jermain Taylor, and a recently beaten Andre Dirrell you could argue that Khan has as much, if not more opportunity to get into the rankings than Ward does who even if he wins those fights will likely need one more to crash the rankings.
Khan could fight Judah, Malignaggi and then Marquez, and the win over Marquez might be enough to put him in the rankings..........It's possible....