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Vivek Wallace and his opinion on Pac Mayweather.
Had to take the Pac picture out of my signature as in my opinion, there is no justification for not taking the test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d57U...layer_embedded
Footage makes perfect sense to me.
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I agree 100%
I like both Guy`s
Manny in A mess right now.He needs to comply withthe testing or face a life time of accusations past and present.
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What are you guys on about? The fight will happen. IT is a done deal. They are just bickering over details for free publicity on ESPN.
Every fight has this type of pre-hype.......sometimes about gloves, ring size, venue, etc. Just more bullshit drama to build the fight.
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boozeboxer
What are you guys on about? The fight will happen. IT is a done deal. They are just bickering over details for free publicity on ESPN.
Every fight has this type of pre-hype.......sometimes about gloves, ring size, venue, etc. Just more bullshit drama to build the fight.
I do not think that Pac would willingly allow anyone to tarnish his name. He is not taking this test for a reason; and it puts doubts in the mind of his fans and fans of the sport in general.
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No doubt! Boxing thrives on bad publicity,...but not this kind.
This is real!
If Arum announces A new opponent in the next week or so for Pac that will be further proof that they want this to go away,...Thing`s getting REAL UGLY for Pac
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funny thing is Golden Boy has stated that Pac will have to undergo these tests if he is to fight any of their fighters which eliminates Moseley, Marquez etc.
Gary Shaw has also stated that he would expect these tests for any of his fighters to get in the ring with Pacman (that info is over at boxingscene) so no bradley fight, fact is this has had a VERY bad affect on manny's image.
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piye
funny thing is Golden Boy has stated that Pac will have to undergo these tests if he is to fight any of their fighters which eliminates Moseley, Marquez etc.
Gary Shaw has also stated that he would expect these tests for any of his fighters to get in the ring with Pacman (that info is over at boxingscene) so no bradley fight, fact is this has had a VERY bad affect on manny's image.
\\not fighting bradley affected Manny's image?
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boozeboxer
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piye
funny thing is Golden Boy has stated that Pac will have to undergo these tests if he is to fight any of their fighters which eliminates Moseley, Marquez etc.
Gary Shaw has also stated that he would expect these tests for any of his fighters to get in the ring with Pacman (that info is over at boxingscene) so no bradley fight, fact is this has had a VERY bad affect on manny's image.
\\not fighting bradley affected Manny's image?
No not taking the random test is.
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piye
funny thing is Golden Boy has stated that Pac will have to undergo these tests if he is to fight any of their fighters which eliminates Moseley, Marquez etc.
Gary Shaw has also stated that he would expect these tests for any of his fighters to get in the ring with Pacman (that info is over at boxingscene) so no bradley fight, fact is this has had a VERY bad affect on manny's image.
Plus no Al Haymon managed fighter. So all that basically rules out Mayweather, Mosley, Berto, Marquez, Bradley, Paul Williams. So effectively all the credible challenges around his weightclass. I can only say it's great these other guys have taken a stand. Hopefully this will be the start of this kind of testing becoming commonplace in boxing. I get the impression that some members of Team Pacquiao don't realize how his legacy hinges on this now.
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boozeboxer
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piye
funny thing is Golden Boy has stated that Pac will have to undergo these tests if he is to fight any of their fighters which eliminates Moseley, Marquez etc.
Gary Shaw has also stated that he would expect these tests for any of his fighters to get in the ring with Pacman (that info is over at boxingscene) so no bradley fight, fact is this has had a VERY bad affect on manny's image.
\\not fighting bradley affected Manny's image?
No that's not important; just that other fighters seem to be taking a stand against it. I mean I imagine this being in the Ring next month too; basically shit sticks just as people consider Margarito a cheater, Moseley's drug allegations come up still etc. expect this to follow Pac.
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Re: Vivek Wallace and his opinion on Pac Mayweather.
I don't need no stinking Vivek Wallece's opinion
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holmcall
I don't need no stinking Vivek Wallece's opinion
Then why did you open a thread called "Vivek Wallace and his opinion on Pac Mayweather."
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This guy is right, even though he's not a big name in the boxing world.
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Re: Vivek Wallace and his opinion on Pac Mayweather.
He makes some excellent points. Good find.
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Re: Vivek Wallace and his opinion on Pac Mayweather.
He does have some very nice points. I was getting suspicious of Pac after his refusal. But after seeing the excuses and diverted attempts I am completely suspicious. The USADA chief knocks down another excuse from Pac's team for not wanting to take the tests. Blood vs. urine? USADA clears up fuss over Mayweather-Pacquiao drug testing feud | Floyd Mayweather - - MLive.com
At this point if Pac was on steroids he should do what a smart backed up criminal would do. Since he has never been caught he should stay off the steroids, take the tests, test clean, and get whooped by PBF. Plus, its boxing and he could always land that lucky shot. At least his past will look clean and his past success will appear confirmed clean. It would be a sacrificial loss. Because what his team is doing right now this is looking really bad. Pac needs to hire a strategist at this point.
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blegit
He does have some very nice points. I was getting suspicious of Pac after his refusal. But after seeing the excuses and diverted attempts I am completely suspicious. The USADA chief knocks down another excuse from Pac's team for not wanting to take the tests.
Blood vs. urine? USADA clears up fuss over Mayweather-Pacquiao drug testing feud | Floyd Mayweather - - MLive.com
At this point if Pac was on steroids he should do what a smart backed up criminal would do. Since he has never been caught he should stay off the steroids, take the tests, test clean, and get whooped by PBF. Plus, its boxing and he could always land that lucky shot. At least his past will look clean and his past success will appear confirmed clean. It would be a sacrificial loss. Because what his team is doing right now this is looking really bad. Pac needs to hire a strategist at this point.
Well thought out and said. I agree completely. Right now, I refuse to believe for certain that he beat Cotto (or any of his recent opponents) without the aid of PEDs. Stay clean for your last fight, lose to PBF and go down as a good fighter. That, or tarnish your entire career.
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Re: Vivek Wallace and his opinion on Pac Mayweather.
Lol,
So I guess, they're going to ask for every fighter pre-blood test ?? for every fight they will need to go pre test and so on ?
let's remain serious, I have nothing against blood test, but you cannot create a special rule or special test for a fighter...more specifically if the demand is coming from the other fighter...
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LOL. This issue has been bloated to the point of having a trial by publicity on Pac.
I guess Oscar De La Hoya is trying to put some question on Pac's win against him as he can't accept the fact that he was humiliated by a midget.
PBF, scared as he is against Pac, is taking advantage of the situation.
I just don't know what they will do next after Pac accept their term of random drug testing.
Ohhh, let me guess.....
More excuses?:-\
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If you can set catch weights and have financial weight stipulations, then I don't see the big deal in requesting a comprehensive drugs check.
The Pac defenders are also bloating the issue by trying to evade the issue at hand. All the arguments against the test have been countered effectively. The drug request is a new thing, but it brings to light the serious need for commisions to update their testing procedures because as things stand drug users can and will find loopholes.
This is a huge sum of money Pac will be taking away, it's only right that he proves he is worth it by showing that he is clean. A urine check is not enough to prove him clean as has been pointed out. We can al run around saying Mayweather is a chicken, but I don't see that at all. I see a serious issue being raised and Manny is not being responsible by responding as he currently is. Recent reports showing that he is suing for defamation seem to me quite petty and to be honest makes him look even more silly. It's an attempt to save face that just isn't going to work.
We've seen that he can take a blood test, now just do it randomly and get on with the fight. To give up 40 million dollars over this is insane.
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Re: Vivek Wallace and his opinion on Pac Mayweather.
We all accept the blood test, but it needs to be for everyone...you want blood tests ? good ! honestly, but impose it for every boxing bouts !
You cannot impose a new test procedure from a fighter demands...
and by the way, I would looove to have this same blood testing done for NFL and NBA :-)
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I agree impose it for all fights then. But Pac is could be a great introduction to these tests for the boxing world! what better way to start a new testing of fighters than to test it's two biggest stars.
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piye
I agree impose it for all fights then. But Pac is could be a great introduction to these tests for the boxing world! what better way to start a new testing of fighters than to test it's two biggest stars.
Good idea. They should start enforcing it for Mosley and Berto or whaever pro fights available by early 2010. They should impose it asap.
Let's break everybody's balls, not just Pac's.
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This has gotten out of hand there are at least 10 threads with the exact same arguments on them. Can we get a mod to merge them all?
And of course we are going to break Pac's balls about this, it's HIS negotiation. He is going to sue Mayweather to try to turn this into something else, to hide the fact he is backing out of the fight to not take a drug test.
I guarantee if the roles were reversed and Pacquiao was asking for the drug test, Intazz, The Congressman, PSL, brucelee, Dr. Steelhammer would be on the exact other side of the argument saying floyd is scared.
The biggest fight of our generation deserves unique treatment. Why not use it as a precedent to a higher standard of drug testing.
Mosley/Berto should not have extra drug testing because the contracts are already done and signed.
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Ok, here's just one point I'll make on this. The reason for blood testing is primarily for the testing of HGH, which cannont be detected in a urine test. Well to get the full effects of HGH you need to be using it for 6 months. It's not something you're going to shoot once and BAM you're all jacked up on HGH, it just doesn't work that way.
So testing 30 days before the fight and immidately following the fight would be more than sufficient for detecting HGH.
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killersheep
This has gotten out of hand there are at least 10 threads with the exact same arguments on them. Can we get a mod to merge them all?
And of course we are going to break Pac's balls about this, it's HIS negotiation. He is going to sue Mayweather to try to turn this into something else, to hide the fact he is backing out of the fight to not take a drug test.
I guarantee if the roles were reversed and Pacquiao was asking for the drug test, Intazz, The Congressman, PSL, brucelee, Dr. Steelhammer would be on the exact other side of the argument saying floyd is scared.
The biggest fight of our generation deserves unique treatment. Why not use it as a precedent to a higher standard of drug testing.
Mosley/Berto should not have extra drug testing because the contracts are already done and signed.
lol Ok start to kill you self because Pacquiao agree for random drug test.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4768830
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killersheep
This has gotten out of hand there are at least 10 threads with the exact same arguments on them. Can we get a mod to merge them all?
And of course we are going to break Pac's balls about this, it's HIS negotiation. He is going to sue Mayweather to try to turn this into something else, to hide the fact he is backing out of the fight to not take a drug test.
I guarantee if the roles were reversed and Pacquiao was asking for the drug test, Intazz, The Congressman, PSL, brucelee, Dr. Steelhammer would be on the exact other side of the argument saying floyd is scared.
The biggest fight of our generation deserves unique treatment. Why not use it as a precedent to a higher standard of drug testing.
Mosley/Berto should not have extra drug testing because the contracts are already done and signed.
The rule is the rule. Pacquiao is not making them. But Mayweather is changing them with baseless accusation.
The 3 biggest, most hyped fights in boxing history Ali-Frazier, Leonard-Hearns, and DLH-Trinidad didn't get "unique treatment". Why should Pac-Floyd be different?
Just stick with traditional NSAC test and let the fight negotiation resume.
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the wiz
Ok, here's just one point I'll make on this. The reason for blood testing is primarily for the testing of HGH, which cannont be detected in a urine test. Well to get the full effects of HGH you need to be using it for 6 months. It's not something you're going to shoot once and BAM you're all jacked up on HGH, it just doesn't work that way.
So testing 30 days before the fight and immidately following the fight would be more than sufficient for detecting HGH.
Yes for HGH but not for EPO and other PEDs.
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Dr. Steelhammer
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killersheep
This has gotten out of hand there are at least 10 threads with the exact same arguments on them. Can we get a mod to merge them all?
And of course we are going to break Pac's balls about this, it's HIS negotiation. He is going to sue Mayweather to try to turn this into something else, to hide the fact he is backing out of the fight to not take a drug test.
I guarantee if the roles were reversed and Pacquiao was asking for the drug test, Intazz, The Congressman, PSL, brucelee, Dr. Steelhammer would be on the exact other side of the argument saying floyd is scared.
The biggest fight of our generation deserves unique treatment. Why not use it as a precedent to a higher standard of drug testing.
Mosley/Berto should not have extra drug testing because the contracts are already done and signed.
The rule is the rule. Pacquiao is not making them. But Mayweather is changing them with baseless accusation.
The 3 biggest, most hyped fights in boxing history Ali-Frazier, Leonard-Hearns, and DLH-Trinidad didn't get "unique treatment". Why should Pac-Floyd be different?
Just stick with traditional NSAC test and let the fight negotiation resume.
What rules? This is an individual private contract, there is no 10 million dollar per pound rule either.
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Intazzz
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Originally Posted by
killersheep
This has gotten out of hand there are at least 10 threads with the exact same arguments on them. Can we get a mod to merge them all?
And of course we are going to break Pac's balls about this, it's HIS negotiation. He is going to sue Mayweather to try to turn this into something else, to hide the fact he is backing out of the fight to not take a drug test.
I guarantee if the roles were reversed and Pacquiao was asking for the drug test, Intazz, The Congressman, PSL, brucelee, Dr. Steelhammer would be on the exact other side of the argument saying floyd is scared.
The biggest fight of our generation deserves unique treatment. Why not use it as a precedent to a higher standard of drug testing.
Mosley/Berto should not have extra drug testing because the contracts are already done and signed.
lol Ok start to kill you self because Pacquiao agree for random drug test.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4768830
No he didn't, read the original article that is quoted from ESPN.
If you click the link it goes to boxing news 24 .com where the writer falsely represents the original article which is the URL if you copy and paste it instead of clicking it. In that article it quotes Arum saying they will NOT submit to random tests and still want:
"Manny will submit to as many random urine tests requested," Arum said. "Regarding the blood tests, he will subject himself to three tests -- one given in January during the week the fight is formally announced, one 30 days from the fight, no later than Feb. 13, and the final one immediately following the fight, in Manny's locker room.
"The major issue related to the testing rests with which independent agency will administer these tests," he said. "The United States Anti Doping Agency cannot do it because they will not amend its procedures to accommodate the blood testing schedule we have outlined. USADA, under its guidelines, would have the right to administer random blood tests as many times as they want up to weigh-in day and that is ludicrous." - Bob Arum from direct quote
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killersheep
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the wiz
Ok, here's just one point I'll make on this. The reason for blood testing is primarily for the testing of HGH, which cannont be detected in a urine test. Well to get the full effects of HGH you need to be using it for 6 months. It's not something you're going to shoot once and BAM you're all jacked up on HGH, it just doesn't work that way.
So testing 30 days before the fight and immidately following the fight would be more than sufficient for detecting HGH.
Yes for HGH but not for EPO and other PEDs.
True on EPO but other PED's (and I could be wrong) I thought they would be detected via the urine tests and/or blood tests that are proposed by the Pacquiao camp.
I think what we got here is not really Pac hiding anything, just a BIG pissing contest by both camps. It's a shame it's going to deraill a big fight of this magnitude.
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the wiz
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Originally Posted by
killersheep
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Originally Posted by
the wiz
Ok, here's just one point I'll make on this. The reason for blood testing is primarily for the testing of HGH, which cannont be detected in a urine test. Well to get the full effects of HGH you need to be using it for 6 months. It's not something you're going to shoot once and BAM you're all jacked up on HGH, it just doesn't work that way.
So testing 30 days before the fight and immidately following the fight would be more than sufficient for detecting HGH.
Yes for HGH but not for EPO and other PEDs.
True on EPO but other PED's (and I could be wrong) I thought they would be detected via the urine tests and/or blood tests that are proposed by the Pacquiao camp.
I think what we got here is not really Pac hiding anything, just a BIG pissing contest by both camps. It's a shame it's going to deraill a big fight of this magnitude.
I'm not sure. But recently, didn't Chavez Jr went positive for PEDs just by a urine test?
Anyways. I just read an article in other thread posted by Inztanzz. Apparently, there's a big development. The fight will more likely to happen after all if team Mayweather agrees. It's Floyd move now. It's like a chess match.
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Dr. Steelhammer
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the wiz
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killersheep
Yes for HGH but not for EPO and other PEDs.
True on EPO but other PED's (and I could be wrong) I thought they would be detected via the urine tests and/or blood tests that are proposed by the Pacquiao camp.
I think what we got here is not really Pac hiding anything, just a BIG pissing contest by both camps. It's a shame it's going to deraill a big fight of this magnitude.
I'm not sure. But recently, didn't Chavez Jr went positive for PEDs just by a urine test?
Anyways. I just read an article in other thread posted by Inztanzz. Apparently, there's a big development. The fight will more likely to happen after all if team Mayweather agrees. It's Floyd move now. It's like a chess match.
no they were diuretics (spelling) so they didn't enhance his performance whatsoever, completely different story
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Less talk-more fight.This theatrical reality show esq crap is turning boxing into a bad episode of the Maury Povich show.One of the biggest high profile clashes seen in the mass media,by casual and hardcore fans alike ....in yearrrrrs and scandal,steroids & cheating lead the way.Well done.Both camps need to stfu and get a grip before being wreckless!This sport has to maintain after they are both long gone.Oh and merry christmas
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Spicoli
Less talk-more fight.This theatrical reality show esq crap is turning boxing into a bad episode of the Maury Povich show.One of the biggest high profile clashes seen in the mass media,by casual and hardcore fans alike ....in yearrrrrs and scandal,steroids & cheating lead the way.Well done.Both camps need to stfu and get a grip before being wreckless!This sport has to maintain after they are both long gone.Oh and merry christmas
And hyped by this guy Wallace. If you don't have proof. Be quite. :angryxo4:
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holmcall
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Spicoli
Less talk-more fight.This theatrical reality show esq crap is turning boxing into a bad episode of the Maury Povich show.One of the biggest high profile clashes seen in the mass media,by casual and hardcore fans alike ....in yearrrrrs and scandal,steroids & cheating lead the way.Well done.Both camps need to stfu and get a grip before being wreckless!This sport has to maintain after they are both long gone.Oh and merry christmas
And hyped by this guy Wallace. If you don't have proof. Be quite. :angryxo4:
That's right. Mayweather has no evidence or whatsoever to prove that Pac is onto something to start with. It's all envy, jealousy, and wild baseless accusation.
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No offense but all unbiased fans in this post have come to the same conclusion. the only thing you other guys have demonstrated is that you are unable to look at things without personal bias becoming envolved.
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SEB
We all accept the blood test, but it needs to be for everyone...you want blood tests ? good ! honestly, but impose it for every boxing bouts !
You cannot impose a new test procedure from a fighter demands...
and by the way, I would looove to have this same blood testing done for NFL and NBA :-)
Why not? Boxers are independent contractors who fight on contract by contract bases... There is no limit by the various state run comissions on this subject. Sure Glove, ring size, Boxing rules are all dictated but drug testing procedures are fair game if it's contractually agreed to. Floyd is doing the test too, so whats the big deal about?
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Spicoli
Less talk-more fight.This theatrical reality show esq crap is turning boxing into a bad episode of the Maury Povich show.One of the biggest high profile clashes seen in the mass media,by casual and hardcore fans alike ....in yearrrrrs and scandal,steroids & cheating lead the way.Well done.Both camps need to stfu and get a grip before being wreckless!This sport has to maintain after they are both long gone.Oh and merry christmas
So what your saying is we should ignore the suspicions about Manny Pacquiao and performance enhancers which lets face it could very well be true and just sweep it under the rug, while that little prick with his clueless smile cheats his way into Boxing histoey and folklore???
Like I stated earlier Floyd has to take the same test, so were is there any advantage for Mayweather? This is a question of ethics and morals. All Pac has to do is have a bit of blood taken and some urine? Im sure he has his blood taken frequently as well as shots and immunizations seeing he travels from the Philippines and the US quite a bit.
Not to mention all the crack pot reasons
He dosent like needles(Even though he has tattoos and has been seen getting blood drawn)
He's superstitious :beat:
He's a grown friggin man with a 40 million payday on the horizon and he's begging off a thorough drug test even though he has accomplished the impossible and defies natural logic in his career and stature, oh and by the way he happens to flourish in the steroid era!!
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blegit
He does have some very nice points. I was getting suspicious of Pac after his refusal. But after seeing the excuses and diverted attempts I am completely suspicious. The USADA chief knocks down another excuse from Pac's team for not wanting to take the tests.
Blood vs. urine? USADA clears up fuss over Mayweather-Pacquiao drug testing feud | Floyd Mayweather - - MLive.com
At this point if Pac was on steroids he should do what a smart backed up criminal would do. Since he has never been caught he should stay off the steroids, take the tests, test clean, and get whooped by PBF. Plus, its boxing and he could always land that lucky shot. At least his past will look clean and his past success will appear confirmed clean. It would be a sacrificial loss. Because what his team is doing right now this is looking really bad. Pac needs to hire a strategist at this point.
A very good article with a couple of credible specialists talking. If ever PAcman backs off, I will seriously wonder for the rest of my life, especially as he agrees to be tested by needle... but not one week before the fight:S
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JT Rock
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Less talk-more fight.This theatrical reality show esq crap is turning boxing into a bad episode of the Maury Povich show.One of the biggest high profile clashes seen in the mass media,by casual and hardcore fans alike ....in yearrrrrs and scandal,steroids & cheating lead the way.Well done.Both camps need to stfu and get a grip before being wreckless!This sport has to maintain after they are both long gone.Oh and merry christmas
So what your saying is we should ignore the suspicions about Manny Pacquiao and performance enhancers which lets face it could very well be true and just sweep it under the rug, while that little prick with his clueless smile cheats his way into Boxing histoey and folklore???
Like I stated earlier Floyd has to take the same test, so were is there any advantage for Mayweather? This is a question of ethics and morals. All Pac has to do is have a bit of blood taken and some urine? Im sure he has his blood taken frequently as well as shots and immunizations seeing he travels from the Philippines and the US quite a bit.
Not to mention all the crack pot reasons
He dosent like needles(Even though he has tattoos and has been seen getting blood drawn)
He's superstitious :beat:
He's a grown friggin man with a 40 million payday on the horizon and he's begging off a thorough drug test even though he has accomplished the impossible and defies natural logic in his career and stature, oh and by the way he happens to flourish in the steroid era!!
Bud.Case you missed it I said both camps.Every man should be held accountable and even attempting to 'sweep' this affair under the rug would be damn near impossible.Press,reps and more so the fans wont allow it.As it should be.Trust me this will be headlines hence forth.Too much grand standing and drama in the sport today.Frankly not swayed by fanhood regarding one fighter or the other here.
My point is more accurately that at last count their are no less then 17,18 threads relating to a Mayweather/Pacquiao/doping issue here,front page and how its turning a huge opportunity for public consumption into a sideshow spectacle.Merry Christmas also.