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Former world champon Ricky Hatton has resumed training. “The Hitman” has been out of the ring since being demolished by Manny Pacquiao in May. After taking a cruise over Christmas, Hatton is expected to make an official comeback announcement in February. According to the Manchester Evening News, talks have begun for a fight against Juan Manuel Marquez at the City of Manchester Stadium.
I'm good and ready for a Hatton comeback. It's been a long wait. May is plenty of time for him first of all whittle down a bit of that weight and then get into some serious training. The Pac fight was not the way to go out and I want to see Hatton amend that. I don't want him to have one fight either. I want to see him claim back 140 and then retire for good. If Hatton can look good in this comeback fight against Marquez, which he might very well do, then I want to see a Bradley fight. Or even a Khan fight if they can work something out. Maybe that's a bit optimistic, but that's because I've had a glass of wine.
plenty of time for ricky to prepare for may 2010 fight with jmm tho i feel may is unlucky month for ricky. but who knows?
He needs to get in the gym anyway otherwise he will die like Bernard Manning.
I really trying to be thrilled... halas, it is impossible. Hope he'll win this one without damage and retire before it gets too late
I think this is a really interesting, if irrelevant, fight. All logic would indicate that Marquez should win, but he really doesn't belong anywhere north of 135 and his chin has looked shaky at times. If Juan Diaz can hurt you, Ricky Hatton can too.
No offence to Rickys fans but Jmm! I tend to hold Ricky in the same light as I used to hold Vargas with his kill or be killed attitude and its effects on his game.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
Great boxers will always find a way around them unless they get dragged into a brawl or they get caught cold wich is rare at that level. Jmm /Hatton could turn out to be a last embarresment; I'd be building up to a fight like that with two others.
Can't help but feel that Hatton is only in it for the money now rathr than to be succesful.. or he would of taken a warm up/confidence booster fight first. I mean come on, who in their right mind would fight someone as good as JMM after a crushing 2nd round KO loss.
At least he had the brains to fight a lesser opponet (no offense to lazcano) after floyd knocked him out.
true he has looked shaky but we've yet to see him ko'd before he's even hit the floor. Those have been BAD knockouts for Hatton.:-\Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
He could of course rattle JMM the same as Diaz did early on but you get the feeling JMM could ride out the storm one more time and counter to Rickys chin.
I would of liked to see Hatton have a warm up fight and if he has anything left then go for 1 big last fight against Marquez.
I fear that he has taken alot of shots over his career and the constant battle with weight has maybe affected him to much that his punch resistance is not good and his stamina has deserted him.
I think he has a chance early against Marquez if he swarms him like Diaz did then he stands a good chance but if he fails to do that i think Marquez will be to sharp and stop him around 8/9th.
its nice to see hatton stopping a legend or hatton being stopped by another legend. could be entertaining fightQuote:
Originally Posted by littlebif
I can't really see him taking 140 back now - There are some beasts in the division like Bradley (which could actually be a great war of attrition if they fought I reckon) - I'd also fancy Khan to take him at this stage which would be a massive shame. I wouldn't like to see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
If he beats Marquez and that's a massive "if" (I don't see it) then he should definitely take a bow and leave with his head held high. As it stands, I think he suffers "Funny KO number 3"
VD will love that. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Althugz
I think he's dying to see Hatton suffer another KO.
It would be sensible for Hatton to have warm up fights but too much money at stake and he could slip up if he is not motivated. He wants to challenge the best and that gets him up for the fight. I hope Hatton pulls it off.
On a bit of a different note, it's really nice to see Marquez get some big paydays as his career winds down.
Hatton still has some left to be competitive at 140 but not against the top guys.
His declining punch resistance against the likes of Maidana, Bradley, Khan, etc looks like nothing but bad news to me.
If Lazcano can hurt him, Bradley and Khan have enough pop.
Jesus, why would he do that to himself. Getting kO'd at Man City's stadium. That's embarassing.
I don't even think it's declining. He's just fought guys who don't let him off the hook when he's hurt. Magee, Tackie, Rios and Phillips all hurt him just as much as Lazcano did. Just nobody ever really mentions it. He's always had an average chin imo. It just got over-rated because Tszyu never hurt him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pugilistic
You make a good point actually. Collazo hurt him also and almost took him out.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoI don't even think it's declining. He's just fought guys who don't let him off the hook when he's hurt. Magee, Tackie, Rios and Phillips all hurt him just as much as Lazcano did. Just nobody ever really mentions it. He's always had an average chin imo. It just got over-rated because Tszyu never hurt him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pugilistic
I think Hatton showed a very good chin in the Collazo fight. While Collazo is not a hard puncher, he was tattooing Hatton all night and only managed to hurt him in the 12th round.Quote:
Originally Posted by PugilisticYou make a good point actually. Collazo hurt him also and almost took him out.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoI don't even think it's declining. He's just fought guys who don't let him off the hook when he's hurt. Magee, Tackie, Rios and Phillips all hurt him just as much as Lazcano did. Just nobody ever really mentions it. He's always had an average chin imo. It just got over-rated because Tszyu never hurt him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pugilistic
Your wording is weird here. You want to see a Bradley fight or even a Khan fight? So Khan is higher up on your list?Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
I see it the other way around. Collazo isn't a hard puncher and he was able to rattle Hatton. If a guy's punches aren't hard you should be able to shake them off and keep coming. Especially considering Ricky made a career of doing just that. Maybe Collazo was the beginning of the end?Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI think Hatton showed a very good chin in the Collazo fight. While Collazo is not a hard puncher, he was tattooing Hatton all night and only managed to hurt him in the 12th round.Quote:
Originally Posted by PugilisticYou make a good point actually. Collazo hurt him also and almost took him out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
I think the Collazo fight was definitely the beginning of the end for Hatton, I've said so on numerous occasions. Regarding your other point, Collazo was the biggest fighter Hatton had ever faced and regardless of whether or not he is a big puncher at 147, he still has some pop and displayed his sharpness and accuracy in the Hatton fight. He peppered Hatton all night long and was only able to hurt him at the end of the fight with a great combination. Given the circumstances, I don't think Hatton displayed a weak chin at all in the Collazo fight, but I do think the punishment he absorbed had a lingering, long-term effect on him as a fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZillaI see it the other way around. Collazo isn't a hard puncher and he was able to rattle Hatton. If a guy's punches aren't hard you should be able to shake them off and keep coming. Especially considering Ricky made a career of doing just that. Maybe Collazo was the beginning of the end?Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI think Hatton showed a very good chin in the Collazo fight. While Collazo is not a hard puncher, he was tattooing Hatton all night and only managed to hurt him in the 12th round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pugilistic
Unless Hatton's comeback includes Dave Paris it won't be successful. Hatton is done. But with his God Father Paris as the 3rd man in the ring he has a chance.
I wanted to see Hatton retire,but i dont really blame him for considering a comeback fight to retire on a high.I menetioned that he would fight Marquez months ago after he got smashed by manny.Marquez will be a real test for hatton to see if he has the desire to fight real come forward fighter.And like Miles mentioned,maybe fight Khan and then retire if he loses that.
Hatton is an overdue fighter. Thanks for the memories. He took out one of my favorite boxer, Tszyu.
No, Khan is not above Bradley or Marquez. A twisted part of me would just like to see Hatton have a domestic showdown and put a beating on Khan. There are hazy recollections of the Khan/Barrera fight in my mind that need sweeping away and Hatton doing it would be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZillaYour wording is weird here. You want to see a Bradley fight or even a Khan fight? So Khan is higher up on your list?Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
I don't rate Khan all that highly, but as an end of career fight I think it fits the bill for Hatton. It will probably never happen though.
Hatton is done, as soon as he gets tagged he stands there waving his hands about waiting for the attack to stop while looking for a spot on the canvas to land on.
Same here, was a tough fight to watch, I wanted Tszyu to win but I also wanted Ricky to look as tough as he was and put up a good fight. We all know Tszyu was past his best but Hatton never stopped and with a little help from the ref won a tough fight which threw him into the big money fights. Imagine if he never won that fight? No Floyd Hatton fight, Pac fight, Castillo KO etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by dcR-Reckless
Stick a fork in him he's done....
Unfortunatley it will take a beating from someone considered a lesser opponent than the level he's been fighting to convince him.
Maybe Naseem Hamed come come back and fight him.... assuming Naz could lose 4 stone to get down to 140 ;D
I think Collazo put him down earlier on the fight but it was ruled a slip. I'm pretty sure he was hurt around the 8th. Hatton was out on his feet in the 12th. Collazo just couldn't finish him.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI think Hatton showed a very good chin in the Collazo fight. While Collazo is not a hard puncher, he was tattooing Hatton all night and only managed to hurt him in the 12th round.Quote:
Originally Posted by PugilisticYou make a good point actually. Collazo hurt him also and almost took him out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
I guess now is as good of a time as ever to fight Witter, who hasn't exactly looked stellar himself lately. Hatton/JMM could be a very exciting fight. I think the best thing Hatton could do is just pressure, pressure, pressure like his old self. Otherwise he runs the risk of getting caught between styles, which could make for a very short night against a counter puncher like JMM.
Witter is out with a cruciate ligament injury, plus Hatton hates enough not to give him a shot, plus he does not want to lose to a Brit, plus.....
How about the rematch he promised Collazo then. Those are the only two fights that have elements left undone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Collazo and Witter
...plus Collazo is a southpaw, plus Hatton is out of his depth as a welterweight....Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepHow about the rematch he promised Collazo then. Those are the only two fights that have elements left undone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Collazo and Witter
picky picky ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Master...plus Collazo is a southpaw, plus Hatton is out of his depth as a welterweight....Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepHow about the rematch he promised Collazo then. Those are the only two fights that have elements left undone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Collazo and Witter
;D Haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shamrock
Hatton the other, white meat.
(we have an ad here by the butchers association about the "other white meat").
I've always liked Ricky...
That said, Marquez should win this fight in a competetive fashion. It wouldn't surprise me if Marquez hit the canvas at least once. I agree that it's nice to see Marquez grabbing some big paydays prior to his disembarking on the sport. Both of these guys are at about the same point in their careers... the end... but they've still definitly got some fireworks left in them. They've both got great attitudes and fighting spirit.
I just hope that the fight can be fought in such a way that neither get seriously injured as they're both reaching points where it's a possibility.
...but as I said, Marquez by desision.