Are boxing fans the most fickle out there?

I tend to think we are...

There are many reasons but I think alot has to do with this-

1)With a football team or a baseball, hockey, rugby, American football or basketball team they're always there... Year in, year out. The players change but the team remains. As far as myself- I'm a New Englander through and through and live in Boston. I grew up with the Celtics, Bruins, Patriots and Red Sox... All teams that I will die loving. Fighters fade.

2) Remember all the Americans thinking Lacy was gonna knock Joe Calzaghe's head off his shoulders a few years ago?(I was one of them) What happened to Lacy? He was exposed and never overcame the beating he took from Joe and maybe just was never that good. But other then JT, whom I commend, I don't know anyone that's still on that band wagon. So my point is, I guess it's a strange sport as once someone gets exposed... You know in your heart of hearts they'll never really be what you envisioned them to be... The next Louis, Dempsy, Ali, Basilio, Robinson, Tyson, Delahoya, Chavez... Whoever. And then they're gone.

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Louis, Dempsy, Ali, Basilio, Robinson, Tyson, Delahoya, Chavez all lost at some point in there careers as well tho, b ut i understand wot u saying man. I felt the same way when hatton lost againat mayweaher i kinda lost interest in him:(

I thinks so. We tend to like a guy based on his last fight-- or at least I do. If a guy I like gets his ass whipped by another guy, I'm likely to become a fan of that other guy. :kissasskc4:

I try and stay a fan of a guy no matter what happens. Im still as big an RJJ fan now as i was when he was superman a few years back. I think u gotta just ignore all the negative comments you read about guys once they lose on forums like this.

PErsonally, win or lose, if I like a boxer, I stick to the very last defeat behind him. The only things that can make me to hate a boxer are cheating or very very bad attitude outside the ring.

I think a lot of it has to do with the frequency of activity. Can you imagine if your beloved patriots played only once or twice a year? I mean look one fight for a lot of the elite in boxing happens as often as an entire season in other sports.

The narrative of boxing can, most times, undertake such dramatic swings in perspective, that it can be hard to establish where the contrived moral high-ground is.

I understand that contrived is of course, inextricably linked to a 'matter of perspective'... I admit it's a tough one.


However, if i go way past deep :rolleyes::
One of the truest manifestation of free-will is an opinion.
In a Non-existent League Table environment without a universal, consistent and rational entity to exercise control over proceedings, there will always be a seemingly irrational shift opinion as the matter of perspective gets lost pretty quickly.

Just my opinion :pimp2:

#1 Yankee fans are the most fair weather fans out there, just a bunch of loud mouthed jackasses that LOVE being on the bandwagon.

#2 Boxers fight only so often and when they lose there is usually such a long layoff that a loss is usually more damaging mentally to the fighter than physically and the true fans have MONTHS to stew over a fight.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

#1 Yankee fans are the most fair weather fans out there, just a bunch of loud mouthed jackasses that LOVE being on the bandwagon.

#2 Boxers fight only so often and when they lose there is usually such a long layoff that a loss is usually more damaging mentally to the fighter than physically and the true fans have MONTHS to stew over a fight.

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in my family you can ONLY either like the Yankees or the Mets lol i chose the Yankees at age 4 and i'm still a die hard fan, and rooted for them even in their 9 yrs without a world series title lol, so not everyone roots for them cause their on the bandwagon, and loud mouthed.....well can't deny that lol 2010 THE YANKEES REPEAT!!!! ;D;D;D

I've found boxing fans to be the same as any other sports fans, just slightly more enthusiastic and dedicated (probably as a result of the sports lack of popularity). By and large, they're the same as hockey fans, football fans etc.

If you want to see a bipolar fans base, I'll be happy to post a link to the next game-day thread for the hockey team I follow.

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Originally Posted by CFH

I've found boxing fans to be the same as any other sports fans, just slightly more enthusiastic and dedicated (probably as a result of the sports lack of popularity). By and large, they're the same as hockey fans, football fans etc.

If you want to see a bipolar fans base, I'll be happy to post a link to the next game-day thread for the hockey team I follow.

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I I'll never not like the Pats, Celts, Bruin or Sox... ;)

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I totally agree with boxing fans being as we are due to the dwindling popularity...

I've had like 6 people tell me this year(tell me you haven't got this...) "You're like the only person I know that watches boxing"...........

"Watches boxing".......... Like it's a fucking sitcom... No, I don't watch boxing. I marvel, critique, and am in awe at most of the things that take place... No, I dont "watch"...

People that aren't boxing fans will never understand... I don't expect them to... Nor does it matter to me... I love my sport. Period.

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I've found boxing fans to be the same as any other sports fans, just slightly more enthusiastic and dedicated (probably as a result of the sports lack of popularity). By and large, they're the same as hockey fans, football fans etc.

If you want to see a bipolar fans base, I'll be happy to post a link to the next game-day thread for the hockey team I follow.

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I I'll never not like the Pats, Celts, Bruin or Sox... ;)

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I totally agree with boxing fans being as we are due to the dwindling popularity...

I've had like 6 people tell me this year(tell me you haven't got this...) "You're like the only person I know that watches boxing"...........

"Watches boxing".......... Like it's a fucking sitcom... No, I don't watch boxing. I marvel, critique, and am in awe at most of the things that take place... No, I dont "watch"...

People that aren't boxing fans will never understand... I don't expect them to... Nor does it matter to me... I love my sport. Period.

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I don't know anyone who is as interested in boxing as I am (in real life), and I'm relatively indifferent compared to some people on here. Actually, I can think of one casual boxing fan I know. One. And he's a casual fan because of the first Contender series.

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I've found boxing fans to be the same as any other sports fans, just slightly more enthusiastic and dedicated (probably as a result of the sports lack of popularity). By and large, they're the same as hockey fans, football fans etc.

If you want to see a bipolar fans base, I'll be happy to post a link to the next game-day thread for the hockey team I follow.

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I I'll never not like the Pats, Celts, Bruin or Sox... ;)

But..

I totally agree with boxing fans being as we are due to the dwindling popularity...

I've had like 6 people tell me this year(tell me you haven't got this...) "You're like the only person I know that watches boxing"...........

"Watches boxing".......... Like it's a fucking sitcom... No, I don't watch boxing. I marvel, critique, and am in awe at most of the things that take place... No, I dont "watch"...

People that aren't boxing fans will never understand... I don't expect them to... Nor does it matter to me... I love my sport. Period.

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I don't know anyone who is as interested in boxing as I am (in real life), and I'm relatively indifferent compared to some people on here. Actually, I can think of one casual boxing fan I know. One. And he's a casual fan because of the first Contender series.

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That's the saddest thing I've read in a while... Like not "Anne Frank" sad... But sad none the less.

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I I'll never not like the Pats, Celts, Bruin or Sox... ;)

But..

I totally agree with boxing fans being as we are due to the dwindling popularity...

I've had like 6 people tell me this year(tell me you haven't got this...) "You're like the only person I know that watches boxing"...........

"Watches boxing".......... Like it's a fucking sitcom... No, I don't watch boxing. I marvel, critique, and am in awe at most of the things that take place... No, I dont "watch"...

People that aren't boxing fans will never understand... I don't expect them to... Nor does it matter to me... I love my sport. Period.

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I don't know anyone who is as interested in boxing as I am (in real life), and I'm relatively indifferent compared to some people on here. Actually, I can think of one casual boxing fan I know. One. And he's a casual fan because of the first Contender series.

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That's the saddest thing I've read in a while... Like not "Anne Frank" sad... But sad none the less.

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Yup, Jessie Brinkley is the reason he has a passing interest in the sport of boxing. Jessie motherfucking Brinkley! I need a drink.

99% of the time if I like a fighter I follow them through thick and thin.

I think it's easy to have fighters as your hero's but the problem is we forget they are human at times and when they make human errors we come down harder on them than we should.

The only fighter I ever went 'off' was Naseem Hamed - went to most of his fights (paying money that was scarce at the time) - met him one day and he snubbed a hand shake and looked at me like I was dirt. A smile - a wave anything would have made my day. What a tw*t.

My friends son is 8 years old and he asked me the other day if boxing was pretend like wrestling... I have since sat him down to watch more than 20 fights in an attempt to begin his education :confused:

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Originally Posted by holmcall

I thinks so. We tend to like a guy based on his last fight-- or at least I do. If a guy I like gets his ass whipped by another guy, I'm likely to become a fan of that other guy. :kissasskc4:

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Hey, that's true. I loved James Toney until Roy beat him and Lacey until he got mangled by Calzaghe.

Personally, I think it has to do with how often they fight. They only fight 4 times a year at most for most fighters whereas with a professional sports team they play at least 16 times in a season. You get to see them more often and they're able to 'recover' after a loss in a few days, if not the very next day. Unless you're a Lions fan.

Good topic.

Another intersting thing about being a boxing fan is You might love both fighters in a fight - And I mean truly love both fighters. In most sports at the pinnacle moment of the season Superbowl, World Series, etc. Most of the time you love one team and thats your team and F the other team for even showing up. In boxing we start loving many fighters who eventually fight each other. What happens after that is you watch a fight that feels like you are watching your two brothers fighting each other...it hurts to see one lose.

For the most part I think most understand and except the along for the entire ride mindset.Thats what makes it so much better than a team sport.On a team there is always a fall-guy...one to point to when things take a nosedive southbound.Where as in boxing sure you see the majority of fault pointed at glaucoma suffering judges or referees afflicted with shit on the brain....but inevitably its the soley the fighter who reaps the rewards and suffers the consequences on a glaring stage for all to see.It an immensely individual and emphasized manner for ones 'bad days' to be revealed.

I stick with my favs with rare exception.Following boxing is a tribal mind set,very emotional and immediate experience.The level of investment as fans can frankly only be truly understood by fellow fans.The highs and lows etc.At times you 'feel' a defeat...it effects everything you do in the real world.Shit I used to plan entire weekends around maybe one fight,a favorite guy fighting.Change work hours,cancel plans,lose girlfriends but at the end of the day I was all about 'living' that fight.Of course Ocd may play a role but for example....when Holyfield was Flattened by Bowe,I stopped watching boxing.Had zero interest...could care less as the one at the top of the mount for me was no more.Where was the motivation,inspiration etc? The thing of it is though...he still fights.Now as a fan I wont bash him but find myself dismissive,almost wanting him to be defeated soundly.Living on glory of the past days.He and I alike over his career.Odd really.It sometimes revolves around one or two fighters for some...which should change over time,you branch out and start appreciating different styles,stories and the bigger picture of the sport.When you live to see just one guy do well you ultimately are setting yourself up for a let down.Boxing is a metaphor for life...no doubt about it.One day your standing on top of the pile,and the next the pile is coming down atop you.But you have to get through...push on.

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For the most part I think most understand and except the along for the entire ride mindset.Thats what makes it so much better than a team sport.On a team there is always a fall-guy...one to point to when things take a nosedive southbound.Where as in boxing sure you see the majority of fault pointed at glaucoma suffering judges or referees afflicted with shit on the brain....but inevitably its the soley the fighter who reaps the rewards and suffers the consequences on a glaring stage for all to see.It an immensely individual and emphasized manner for ones 'bad days' to be revealed.

I stick with my favs with rare exception.Following boxing is a tribal mind set,very emotional and immediate experience.The level of investment as fans can frankly only be truly understood by fellow fans.The highs and lows etc.At times you 'feel' a defeat...it effects everything you do in the real world.Shit I used to plan entire weekends around maybe one fight,a favorite guy fighting.Change work hours,cancel plans,lose girlfriends but at the end of the day I was all about 'living' that fight.Of course Ocd may play a role but for example....when Holyfield was Flattened by Bowe,I stopped watching boxing.Had zero interest...could care less as the one at the top of the mount for me was no more.Where was the motivation,inspiration etc? The thing of it is though...he still fights.Now as a fan I wont bash him but find myself dismissive,almost wanting him to be defeated soundly.Living on glory of the past days.He and I alike over his career.Odd really.It sometimes revolves around one or two fighters for some...which should change over time,you branch out and start appreciating different styles,stories and the bigger picture of the sport.When you live to see just one guy do well you ultimately are setting yourself up for a let down.Boxing is a metaphor for life...no doubt about it.One day your standing on top of the pile,and the next the pile is coming down atop you.But you have to get through...push on.

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Great post, Spicoli. I agree

I am as fickle as Don King, I always root for the winner.

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Originally Posted by Grinch

The narrative of boxing can, most times, undertake such dramatic swings in perspective, that it can be hard to establish where the contrived moral high-ground is.

I understand that contrived is of course, inextricably linked to a 'matter of perspective'... I admit it's a tough one.


However, if i go way past deep :rolleyes::
One of the truest manifestation of free-will is an opinion.
In a Non-existent League Table environment without a universal, consistent and rational entity to exercise control over proceedings, there will always be a seemingly irrational shift opinion as the matter of perspective gets lost pretty quickly.

Just my opinion :pimp2:

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Had you just swallowed a theasaurus Jim ? Quality ;)