Religion gone wrong.

This news story about that man who drew a cartoon depicting Mohammad a few years ago irritated me a little bit today.

BBC News - Danish police shoot intruder at cartoonist's home

I remember the uproar at the time thinking it was all so over the top and a lot of getting worked up over nothing. This man has seemingly become a serious target in the wake of a little bit of satire, having to spend time in hiding and ensuring that his home is fully secure in case of loonies looking to kill him. Apparently there is a bounty of a million dollars on his head. It's really scary stuff. This man is probably going to always have to be looking over his shoulder in case he is targeted.

I just look at religion and sigh sometimes. Though most followers are normal people looking for some kind of certainty in the chaos we call existence, it does seem to breed an awful lof of intolerant nutters. I'm not just singling out Islam here as I think it can also go to the head of extreme Christians and Catholics too. I think religion has some wonderful messages, but surely nothing good can come from wanting to kill a man who has satirised religion in the form of a cartoon? I just don't get it. :-\

Any thoughts on this?

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Originally Posted by miles

This news story about that man who drew a cartoon depicting Mohammad a few years ago irritated me a little bit today.

BBC News - Danish police shoot intruder at cartoonist's home

I remember the uproar at the time thinking it was all so over the top and a lot of getting worked up over nothing. This man has seemingly become a serious target in the wake of a little bit of satire, having to spend time in hiding and ensuring that his home is fully secure in case of loonies looking to kill him. Apparently there is a bounty of a million dollars on his head. It's really scary stuff. This man is probably going to always have to be looking over his shoulder in case he is targeted.

I just look at religion and sigh sometimes. Though most followers are normal people looking for some kind of certainty in the chaos we call existence, it does seem to breed an awful lof of intolerant nutters. I'm not just singling out Islam here as I think it can also go to the head of extreme Christians and Catholics too. I think religion has some wonderful messages, but surely nothing good can come from wanting to kill a man who has satirised religion in the form of a cartoon? I just don't get it. :-\

Any thoughts on this?

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Yeah I have.

Im going to take out an ad online offering assisted suicides for a favour.

Once they reply the deal is this: They publicly denounce Some Mulla or cleric,they get a million on their head.I bring the photo of their head to Saudi and collect.

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Originally Posted by Andre

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Originally Posted by miles

This news story about that man who drew a cartoon depicting Mohammad a few years ago irritated me a little bit today.

BBC News - Danish police shoot intruder at cartoonist's home

I remember the uproar at the time thinking it was all so over the top and a lot of getting worked up over nothing. This man has seemingly become a serious target in the wake of a little bit of satire, having to spend time in hiding and ensuring that his home is fully secure in case of loonies looking to kill him. Apparently there is a bounty of a million dollars on his head. It's really scary stuff. This man is probably going to always have to be looking over his shoulder in case he is targeted.

I just look at religion and sigh sometimes. Though most followers are normal people looking for some kind of certainty in the chaos we call existence, it does seem to breed an awful lof of intolerant nutters. I'm not just singling out Islam here as I think it can also go to the head of extreme Christians and Catholics too. I think religion has some wonderful messages, but surely nothing good can come from wanting to kill a man who has satirised religion in the form of a cartoon? I just don't get it. :-\

Any thoughts on this?

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Yeah I have.

Im going to take out an ad online offering assisted suicides for a favour.

Once they reply the deal is this: They publicly denounce Some Mulla or cleric,they get a million on their head.I bring the photo of their head to Saudi and collect.

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That's the way to go, a bit of entrepreneurial spirit! :cool:

Imagine someone wanting to cut your neck because you say "God is gay!". Such a silly thing to get upset about.

When has religion ever gone right?

It ridiculous that someone would be murdered by an axe-wielding lunatic simply because he drew a fucking cartoon. Insane.

The big problem is that in the Al-Quaran, it is specifically said that one cannot depict and represent the prophet and muslims tend to take it very at heart. Still, only the fanatics would go beyond anger to try to murder someone and it is clearly out of bounds. Incredible how a strict interpretation instead of a moderate one can make all the difference and make things totally nut.

CFH religion has done right in some cases, it's just easier to point out the bad because those are more memorable.

A couple good things about Christianity (which I think even you will appreciate)
#1 In the begining stages of Christianity the key members of the religion were slaves & women. Christianity was the first religion to offer such upward mobility to those classes and all because in Christianity it was cheaper to be baptized (they used and still use water, the Magna Mater cult put you in a pit, covered it with a grate and sacrificed a bull which the baptizee bought over the top of the grate drenching that person in blood...water = clean and cheap and bull = expensive and messy)

#2 During the several famines and plagues Europe (and the rest of the world) suffered through during the middle ages only the Priests, Monks, Nuns, et al would aid, feed, tend to and bury the ill and dead (it doesn't sound like much but it was a HUGE deal). And right now organized religion (even as much as I do not appreciate it) is helping feed and shelter the less fortunant.

I tend to share Joseph Campbell's view on religion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo_kiNbwWaY

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Originally Posted by Lyle

CFH religion has done right in some cases, it's just easier to point out the bad because those are more memorable.

A couple good things about Christianity (which I think even you will appreciate)
#1 In the begining stages of Christianity the key members of the religion were slaves & women. Christianity was the first religion to offer such upward mobility to those classes and all because in Christianity it was cheaper to be baptized (they used and still use water, the Magna Mater cult put you in a pit, covered it with a grate and sacrificed a bull which the baptizee bought over the top of the grate drenching that person in blood...water = clean and cheap and bull = expensive and messy)

#2 During the several famines and plagues Europe (and the rest of the world) suffered through during the middle ages only the Priests, Monks, Nuns, et al would aid, feed, tend to and bury the ill and dead (it doesn't sound like much but it was a HUGE deal). And right now organized religion (even as much as I do not appreciate it) is helping feed and shelter the less fortunant.

I tend to share Joseph Campbell's view on religion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo_kiNbwWaY

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Oh dear, Religion :cooldevil:


oh dear an Andre rant :bag:


A strange thing,when there is a real possession of a house not by an ex human spirit in limbo but by a full on Demonic one, its usually the Catholic Churches top blokes who have to put the writ on it.

This stems back to the fact that they have the knowledge that to practice not believing in the entity at all (even though its throwing them around the room etc and smashing stuff up in front of everyones eyes.) They remove them by disbeliving in them while bringing 4d love and light down into the place through prayer to offset the opening between 2d and 3d.

Those 2d things are rare but they come in via an invitation by a fool ot via an opening that is a weakness in 3d or a 3d person usually aroud some past trauma. They come in very slow stages and eventually to leech negative life force as they use peoples fear to build momentum to slowly rise from 2d up into 3d through a known line of increasing negative emotions of the humans involved.
The fact that we hold all this material stuff together up here or down here (which ever way you look at it) with our minds firstly and our many belief systems, is knowledge that the Roman Church has kept to itself since recovering and volting up all the ancient scriptures, while building up its own belif system for many to fall into.

Yeah so even though they hide the truth in order to hold all the power (which is wrong) they still do some good.

If they released all of what they really know about how things are set up for us all in regards to mind, belife , material being and the effects it all has on our health on these three levels; as well as effects out of us and into our world;we could turn this whole thing around and become as we were ment to be in no time flat.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

CFH religion has done right in some cases, it's just easier to point out the bad because those are more memorable.

A couple good things about Christianity (which I think even you will appreciate)
#1 In the begining stages of Christianity the key members of the religion were slaves & women. Christianity was the first religion to offer such upward mobility to those classes and all because in Christianity it was cheaper to be baptized (they used and still use water, the Magna Mater cult put you in a pit, covered it with a grate and sacrificed a bull which the baptizee bought over the top of the grate drenching that person in blood...water = clean and cheap and bull = expensive and messy)

#2 During the several famines and plagues Europe (and the rest of the world) suffered through during the middle ages only the Priests, Monks, Nuns, et al would aid, feed, tend to and bury the ill and dead (it doesn't sound like much but it was a HUGE deal). And right now organized religion (even as much as I do not appreciate it) is helping feed and shelter the less fortunant.

I tend to share Joseph Campbell's view on religion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo_kiNbwWaY

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Yeah, Islam and christianity used to do a few good things... but then again, if we weight it with the Crusades, the Cathars' massacre, the inquisition, the modern era super intolerance.... I would say that their good things is largely outweight by the good things it did. Not that I am for its complete and uttermost abolition but let's keep a deep eye on it and let's not throw it too many flowers for its achievements.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

CFH religion has done right in some cases, it's just easier to point out the bad because those are more memorable.

A couple good things about Christianity (which I think even you will appreciate)
#1 In the begining stages of Christianity the key members of the religion were slaves & women. Christianity was the first religion to offer such upward mobility to those classes and all because in Christianity it was cheaper to be baptized (they used and still use water, the Magna Mater cult put you in a pit, covered it with a grate and sacrificed a bull which the baptizee bought over the top of the grate drenching that person in blood...water = clean and cheap and bull = expensive and messy)

#2 During the several famines and plagues Europe (and the rest of the world) suffered through during the middle ages only the Priests, Monks, Nuns, et al would aid, feed, tend to and bury the ill and dead (it doesn't sound like much but it was a HUGE deal). And right now organized religion (even as much as I do not appreciate it) is helping feed and shelter the less fortunant.

I tend to share Joseph Campbell's view on religion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo_kiNbwWaY

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Yeah, Islam and christianity used to do a few good things... but then again, if we weight it with the Crusades, the Cathars' massacre, the inquisition, the modern era super intolerance.... I would say that their good things is largely outweight by the good things it did. Not that I am for its complete and uttermost abolition but let's keep a deep eye on it and let's not throw it too many flowers for its achievements.

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:smilie_whisper: You left out child rape.

OK #1 did you assholes even bother to watch the video? (If you did, I'm much more interested in what you thought of that rather than organized religion).

#2 I guess those bad things you mention would not exist had there never been religion....ergo invalidating your points. However I am equally disgusted with some of the things done "In the name of God"


I really would appreciate everyone's opinion of the Joseph Campbell video

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Originally Posted by Lyle

OK #1 did you assholes even bother to watch the video? (If you did, I'm much more interested in what you thought of that rather than organized religion).

#2 I guess those bad things you mention would not exist had there never been religion....ergo invalidating your points. However I am equally disgusted with some of the things done "In the name of God"


I really would appreciate everyone's opinion of the Joseph Campbell video

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I liked the video, though I probably didn't pay as much attention to it as I should. To situate myself in the discussion in the video, I would identify much more readily with Campbell's descriptions of Native religions and Shintoism and their perspectives on nature and human impulses than I would with those of Christianity or other "western" religions.

When I get the time I'd like to watch the entire conversation.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

OK #1 did you assholes even bother to watch the video? (If you did, I'm much more interested in what you thought of that rather than organized religion).

#2 I guess those bad things you mention would not exist had there never been religion....ergo invalidating your points. However I am equally disgusted with some of the things done "In the name of God"


I really would appreciate everyone's opinion of the Joseph Campbell video

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1) Yeah I did read Campbell's video. THe huge problem with this video is that he cautions only one version of religion without mentioning how and why it is better than the other versions (Islam, Judaism etc), he just take the holy trinity as granted and says we try to understand things from there (more or less):confused: He also doesn't answer clearly to the question of the interpretation what is correct into all these scriptures, neither does he address the matter of how things have been translated and how it is phony in many circumstances.

2) Many of the mentioned things couldn't have happen without religion: the crusades were set to Unify the Christians by Urban the first because there was too internal strife, so they thought: "yeah, let's find a common enemy to make them walk hands in hands" so in the name of God, they did what they did. Same for women treatment, in the name of god they made her to do and endure horrible things. The problem with religion is that it's the very last and most important gate, the metaphysics anchoring of it all so many peoples will see everything else as irrelevant, laws or anything created by man and they will seek the authority that makes a bridge between them and the almighty.

As for the video overall, I like that it seems to be a moderated man talking quite frankly but there is a lot of argumentative flaws into his speech for my taste, perhaps is it a professional failure as I am used to dissect things too deeply in philosophy but to me, it lacks a bit of substance.

There are other videos where he addresses what you brought up. There is actually an entire series of videos that address many of the different issues regarding organized religion.

War, famine, poverty, rape, all of those bad things aren't mutually exclusive to religious societies and that's what I'm trying to get across to you...religion didn't bring those things about

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Originally Posted by Lyle

OK #1 did you assholes even bother to watch the video? (If you did, I'm much more interested in what you thought of that rather than organized religion).

#2 I guess those bad things you mention would not exist had there never been religion....ergo invalidating your points. However I am equally disgusted with some of the things done "In the name of God"


I really would appreciate everyone's opinion of the Joseph Campbell video

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1) Yeah I did read Campbell's video. THe huge problem with this video is that he cautions only one version of religion without mentioning how and why it is better than the other versions (Islam, Judaism etc), he just take the holy trinity as granted and says we try to understand things from there (more or less):confused: He also doesn't answer clearly to the question of the interpretation what is correct into all these scriptures, neither does he address the matter of how things have been translated and how it is phony in many circumstances.

2) Many of the mentioned things couldn't have happen without religion: the crusades were set to Unify the Christians by Urban the first because there was too internal strife, so they thought: "yeah, let's find a common enemy to make them walk hands in hands" so in the name of God, they did what they did. Same for women treatment, in the name of god they made her to do and endure horrible things. The problem with religion is that it's the very last and most important gate, the metaphysics anchoring of it all so many peoples will see everything else as irrelevant, laws or anything created by man and they will seek the authority that makes a bridge between them and the almighty.

As for the video overall, I like that it seems to be a moderated man talking quite frankly but there is a lot of argumentative flaws into his speech for my taste, perhaps is it a professional failure as I am used to dissect things too deeply in philosophy but to me, it lacks a bit of substance.

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<-Yeah, what he just said!

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Originally Posted by Lyle

There are other videos where he addresses what you brought up. There is actually an entire series of videos that address many of the different issues regarding organized religion.

War, famine, poverty, rape, all of those bad things aren't mutually exclusive to religious societies and that's what I'm trying to get across to you...religion didn't bring those things about

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There is things that are purely human so to speak and there is things which religion support. Religion support and foster many of these issues actually and some of these things are damn dangerous, especially for those who take scripture to the letter. For example: A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed.
(Deuteronomy 22:13-21).

Yeah, Religion supports tons of dubious things, it is not only a metaphysics vague concept, it is damn pragmatic in our life, sometimes.

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There is things that are purely human so to speak and there is things which religion support. Religion support and foster many of these issues actually and some of these things are damn dangerous, especially for those who take scripture to the letter. For example: A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed.
(Deuteronomy 22:13-21).

Yeah, Religion supports tons of dubious things, it is not only a metaphysics vague concept, it is damn pragmatic in our life, sometimes.

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Yeah, I'm pretty certain that was a social more(pronouced moray, just in case you wanted to look it up) and it's probably still followed in some areas of the Middle East. So what I'm saying is religion didn't create that law but people in the area had that law for some reason, perhaps to manage their tribes and keep the peace, remember in that age arranged marriages were not uncommon so if you were to be wed to a woman that is supposed to be a virgin and you find out she's not a virgin....you're going to want your goats/camels/etc back. It was just a law of the time and place, much like it used to be a law that if someone stole your cattle they could be hanged....just an outdated barbaric law. The metaphores are what teach us.....Jonah and the Whale, is that not a good metaphore to teach? Don't run, don't hide from what scares you, what haunts you, what you feel you cannot stand up to, because if you don't stand and face it then it will have power over you and maybe your whole life, only when you decide to face what you were running from can you be free....that's a great moral story to teach and it's appicable to so many things in life and there are TONS of those metaphores in ALL faiths and all religions.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by Nameless

There is things that are purely human so to speak and there is things which religion support. Religion support and foster many of these issues actually and some of these things are damn dangerous, especially for those who take scripture to the letter. For example: A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed.
(Deuteronomy 22:13-21).

Yeah, Religion supports tons of dubious things, it is not only a metaphysics vague concept, it is damn pragmatic in our life, sometimes.

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Yeah, I'm pretty certain that was a social more(pronouced moray, just in case you wanted to look it up) and it's probably still followed in some areas of the Middle East. So what I'm saying is religion didn't create that law but people in the area had that law for some reason, perhaps to manage their tribes and keep the peace, remember in that age arranged marriages were not uncommon so if you were to be wed to a woman that is supposed to be a virgin and you find out she's not a virgin....you're going to want your goats/camels/etc back. It was just a law of the time and place, much like it used to be a law that if someone stole your cattle they could be hanged....just an outdated barbaric law. The metaphores are what teach us.....Jonah and the Whale, is that not a good metaphore to teach? Don't run, don't hide from what scares you, what haunts you, what you feel you cannot stand up to, because if you don't stand and face it then it will have power over you and maybe your whole life, only when you decide to face what you were running from can you be free....that's a great moral story to teach and it's appicable to so many things in life and there are TONS of those metaphores in ALL faiths and all religions.

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Sure, some issues are like that, the exemption of pork in islam is due to the fact that pork under such weathers become bad and poison quite fast, there is a lot of things like that. However, some part are not always tale like that, these are not all fables and morals to help peoples to understand. Moreover, peoples to this day are using the whole book as a vector to justify everything and nothing they do because it's written in it. For that, Buddhism is a lot better and more peaceful than any other religion that I know, no hierarchy and it is not based on some discrimination or domination factors. There can be a few good things in every religion, I am not denying that, what I am saying is that overall, I feel there is more bad things than good ones, especially when a hierarchy has been created over it.

If Muslims are offended by Christmas then why do so many try to look like Santa?

I completely support their right to kill the man who drew this cartoon.

I used to think it was an overreaction, but then I remembered how angry I was when they gave Scooby Doo a cousin. I'd have murdered the bastard who created Scrappy :cool:

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CFH religion has done right in some cases, it's just easier to point out the bad because those are more memorable.

A couple good things about Christianity (which I think even you will appreciate)
#1 In the begining stages of Christianity the key members of the religion were slaves & women. Christianity was the first religion to offer such upward mobility to those classes and all because in Christianity it was cheaper to be baptized (they used and still use water, the Magna Mater cult put you in a pit, covered it with a grate and sacrificed a bull which the baptizee bought over the top of the grate drenching that person in blood...water = clean and cheap and bull = expensive and messy)

#2 During the several famines and plagues Europe (and the rest of the world) suffered through during the middle ages only the Priests, Monks, Nuns, et al would aid, feed, tend to and bury the ill and dead (it doesn't sound like much but it was a HUGE deal). And right now organized religion (even as much as I do not appreciate it) is helping feed and shelter the less fortunant.

I tend to share Joseph Campbell's view on religion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo_kiNbwWaY

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Yeah, Islam and christianity used to do a few good things... but then again, if we weight it with the Crusades, the Cathars' massacre, the inquisition, the modern era super intolerance.... I would say that their good things is largely outweight by the good things it did. Not that I am for its complete and uttermost abolition but let's keep a deep eye on it and let's not throw it too many flowers for its achievements.

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Well put.:cool:

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Originally Posted by Lyle

CFH religion has done right in some cases, it's just easier to point out the bad because those are more memorable.

A couple good things about Christianity (which I think even you will appreciate)
#1 In the begining stages of Christianity the key members of the religion were slaves & women. Christianity was the first religion to offer such upward mobility to those classes and all because in Christianity it was cheaper to be baptized (they used and still use water, the Magna Mater cult put you in a pit, covered it with a grate and sacrificed a bull which the baptizee bought over the top of the grate drenching that person in blood...water = clean and cheap and bull = expensive and messy)

#2 During the several famines and plagues Europe (and the rest of the world) suffered through during the middle ages only the Priests, Monks, Nuns, et al would aid, feed, tend to and bury the ill and dead (it doesn't sound like much but it was a HUGE deal). And right now organized religion (even as much as I do not appreciate it) is helping feed and shelter the less fortunant.

I tend to share Joseph Campbell's view on religion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo_kiNbwWaY

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Yeah, Islam and christianity used to do a few good things... but then again, if we weight it with the Crusades, the Cathars' massacre, the inquisition, the modern era super intolerance.... I would say that their good things is largely outweight by the good things it did. Not that I am for its complete and uttermost abolition but let's keep a deep eye on it and let's not throw it too many flowers for its achievements.

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Well put.:cool:

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I agree.

There are two kinds of spirits in human form and that mixture is to be found even throughout religions.

Some seek power in order to steal others time and energy away from them through control and through fear which are not of the higher dimensions.

Others give freely of their time and their energy because their source of energy is the unfathomable one.

You cannot serve two masters.

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Yeah, Islam and christianity used to do a few good things... but then again, if we weight it with the Crusades, the Cathars' massacre, the inquisition, the modern era super intolerance.... I would say that their good things is largely outweight by the good things it did. Not that I am for its complete and uttermost abolition but let's keep a deep eye on it and let's not throw it too many flowers for its achievements.

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Well put.:cool:

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I agree.

There are two kinds of spirits in human form and that mixture is to be found even throughout religions.

Some seek power in order to steal others time and energy away from them through control and through fear which are not of the higher dimensions.

Others give freely of their time and their energy because their source of energy is the unfathomable one.

You cannot serve two masters.

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And still, I am certain it is also almost un-manageable to serve 2 mistresses ;)

Religion gone wrong?:confused:

When A stash of money & checks was discovered behind a bathroom wall by a plumber working at the megachurch of televangelist Joel Osteen in Houston, Texas.

I'd say that is an example of religion gone wrong.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/st...=U531#comments


The next example will be the silence of those who attend.
The other pimping preachers who will also remain silent.
The Right wing political machine that ignores the rape of the catholics as youth will surely maintain their silence on why a supposed man of God has checks -not in the church vault, but inside his walls.


https://nypost.com/2021/12/03/plumbe...kewood-church/
Plumber finds cash in wall of Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church years after burglary

get this......again it was discovered: seven years after $600,000 was stolen from the church safe, according to KRPC Channel 2.

Houston police never solved the 2014 crime, in which the megachurch said a whopping $600,000 had gone missing from the safe.
$600K in donations stolen from Osteen’s megachurch
By Post Wire Report
March 11, 2014 2:06pm


Here is the headlines from 2014- HOUSTON — The Houston megachurch led by Pastor Joel Osteen has been targeted by thieves who stole cash, checks and credit card information from a safe.

https://nypost.com/2014/03/11/donati...ns-megachurch/

Haven't seen too many rightwing pages discussing this.
Newsmax only article on this Olsteen dude was him getting (forgivable) money from the government.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jo...15/id/1001731/

celebrity pastor Joel Osteen, received a $4.44 million loan under the Paycheck Protection Program in July, the Houston Business Journal reported.

The forgivable loan was originated by Bank of America, according to the U.S. Small Business Administration data, and approved during July-August, the Business Journal reported.


When did God start asking his own to beg for the government as opposed to asking God to deliver unto them?

Osteen had a net worth of about $60 million in 2017,---yet he couldn't afford to pay his staff- so they went to Pharoah.:-\

Instead of Newsmax informing their readers on this -I (money) was lost, but now Im found in the walls of where Joe booboos at.....here is what they want their viewers to know on this Dec 3rd: Biden and Entire Democratic Party Declare ‘War on Christianity’:confused::o:-\


That is sick. When a supposed newscast is reporting the entire party is declaring a war. On their religion.
when one watches the vid- this chick goes on a BLM tip- apparently Joe is Pro BLM...and that they say....get your money out of white banks, ok....what does that have to do with the TOPIC?:( 3 topics in 52 seconds? What is the point? Hate black hate Joe...cause they hate white banks -so they must hate God?:mad:

https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/s...hristianity%2F


Newsmax chick starts talking about xmas decorations looks more like a carnival cruise...all this in 52 seconds.
As far as FIX aka FOX? Same stuff...one can find local stations like FOX news 19 in Texas...but the entire nation doesn't need to know.

So far the plumber has not heard from those who promised reward money.
So far the plumber has not heard from Joel $steen.

https://youtu.be/TWug41bjGnQ


Not a soul to hollar PRAISE THE LORD....OUR STOLEN MONEY WAS FOUND.
The silence must be the seek-lawyer-silence.


To steal in the name of the Lord...once again, its Rightwing Practitioneers of Chrisitianity that would remain silent.

https://youtu.be/vyN4jI3I2NA

The very demographic claiming Democrats want to cancel the meaning of christmas, jumped for joy when they saw a photo of one of their own showering her kids for X-mas with REAL GUNS.

Damn the toy gun, let the toddlers grow up thinking Gods n Guns on Christmas.

Jesus, thank you for my glass projectile rounds that the big bad liberals didnt want me to have.


I never saw a part in the Bible where it says "vengence is mines & Smith & Wesson" sayeth the lord.
This is what Trump allowed to crawl from the dark into the light.

https://youtu.be/ZsdY8mib7II

They were long there, but no longer afraid to declare they can kill and then eat a big ass pig sitting in the middle of the table...in honor of Jesus the Jew.

https://youtu.be/eBS9KmI6E_o

Guns, pig's ass & then declare a former friend to the clintons - a former life long democrat is ...The Chosen One
https://youtu.be/_JsAQj36gCU

Damn the fact there is NO chosen one in the bible. There is a A savior, but who needs him? He healed the sick with no need for pay, medicare, medicaid. he fed the poor -no need for credit, debit or financing with 255% interest. He claimed live by the sword (gun) die by it.
But Gosh Darn reading the Bible...let Sean Hannity, Dead Limbaugh, Donnie Drumpf or one of those multi-millionaire televangelists (for a fee called tithe) teach us all.

How can that man of 2,000 years ago be here today- and be accepted by the christianty- group?:confused: We all know...he was never murdured by the infidels or the athiests or agnostics....he was killed by those who claimed they had a belief in a God.

How then would that demographic (god-believers) treat a man who spent time with the hoes, bums, no-nothings, poor, oppressed, colored, raped, mentally ill?
They would treat him no different today then they did back then.
Religion gone wrong? :eek:

https://i.imgur.com/2k7kylG.jpg ;D