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Khan scared of Maidana?
If this is true Khan is pathetic and doesnt deserve his title, a true champion takes risk's! Be a good fight tho if it happened!:)
Amir Khan May Vacate if Marcos Maidana is Pushed - Boxing News
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Re: Khan scared of Maidana?
It will be Fwanks decision. He doesnt want another Prescott scenario. It's a bad decision though, he cant run from anyone with a half decent dig forever.
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That is a bit sad, but if it turns out to be true I wouldn't be all that surprised. Khan is a fraud and I see nothing in him to change my opinion. Anyone can look flashy against other buffed up nobodies. Stick him in with someone who can punch and take a shot and see where that leads.
What's he going to do? Stand down and fight someone good for no strap or go up to WW?
The guys got to face someone sometime. Might as well face it sooner rather than later.
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miles
That is a bit sad, but if it turns out to be true I wouldn't be all that surprised. Khan is a fraud and I see nothing in him to change my opinion. Anyone can look flashy against other buffed up nobodies. Stick him in with someone who can punch and take a shot and see where that leads.
What's he going to do? Stand down and fight someone good for no strap or go up to WW?
The guys got to face someone sometime. Might as well face it sooner rather than later.
Agreed.
How about Khan moving back down to Lightweight ? And throw him in with Valero, I would love that. ;D
Edit - My son bought me Amir Khan's dvd last year for Christmas. Needless to say he never got the Xbxox 360 he wanted this year. ;D
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I remember growing up watching real fighters bash the fuck out of each other to prove who was the best........Khan is a joke.
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Jimmy G-Force
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miles
That is a bit sad, but if it turns out to be true I wouldn't be all that surprised. Khan is a fraud and I see nothing in him to change my opinion. Anyone can look flashy against other buffed up nobodies. Stick him in with someone who can punch and take a shot and see where that leads.
What's he going to do? Stand down and fight someone good for no strap or go up to WW?
The guys got to face someone sometime. Might as well face it sooner rather than later.
Agreed.
How about Khan moving back down to Lightweight ? And throw him in with Valero, I would love that. ;D
Edit - My son bought me Amir Khan's dvd last year for Christmas. Needless to say he never got the Xbxox 360 he wanted this year. ;D
That would be fun for a few rounds.
I'm regarded as a bit of a Khan hater, but the truth is simply that I am not easily conned. I know a hype job when I see it.
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Why the talk as if he has already vacated it? The news isn't all that credible.. it doesn't even provide a source. Who's to say Maidana's camp didn't start the rumour off?
I would rather see Khan in with the likes of Malignaggi or Diaz anyway. Not as big punchers, but IMO more credible names and overall better punchers. Sure Maidana can bang, but to me he looks like a fairly limited boxer.
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Khan should not have a world title and call himself a "champion" if he does not want to/feel confident enough to take on all challengers...including those with some decent pop.
All this "progress him slowly" ends when you get your hands on a world title! How can you still be a work in progress if you're apparently at the top of the mountain? It makes no sense.
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I think fighting Maidana is a lose lose situation for Khan. If he loses well everyone says he's a fraud. If he wins it's because Maidana was crap.
Damn if he does, damn if he doesnt. But I do expect him to face some good fighters in 2010.
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The responses so far show how fickle this forum can be so far.
First of the article is almost 1 month old and there has been no further talk of this happening.
Secondly it is just that - talk. Speculation backed up with absolutely zero quotes. Warren's column in The Sun today suggests that Khan will indeed fight Maidana.
Thirdly the article also mentions possible fights with Malignaggi, Marquez and Hatton, who last time i checked, are all a level above Maidana.
Fourthly, you cannot really criticize Khan for it as he would gladly fight anyone. It's more to do with frank Warren
Fifthly (if that's a word) - you can't really critisize Khan for doing what most fighters over the last god knows how many years, have done. That is, avoiding the big risk low reward fights in favour of the lower risk higher reward fights. Why the hell would you turn down a multi-million dollar pay day to fight for less against some generally unheard of guy, for much less money. I think a few people on here have watched Rocky a few too many times. In an ideal the world, a world champions would be the best in the world, and he would continually look to prove himself by beating the next best fighter. In the real world, Boxing is more of a business and less of a sport. If promoters used the gung-ho mentality of some posters on here, we'd never witness the delights of any fighter becoming a superstar. No De La Hoya, no Manny Pacquiao, no Floyd Mayweather, no Ricky Hatton. Boxing would be just like the UFC......shite.
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Ono, Hatton can't take a punch, Paulie ain't got a punch and Marquez is just too old and too small.
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Kel
Ono, Hatton can't take a punch, Paulie ain't got a punch and Marquez is just too old and too small.
Where were all these people when Vince Phillips almost ko'd Hatton, or when Ben Tackie staggered him. Or when Magee had him on queer street. How come Hatton's punch resistance wasn't in question back then?
What does it matter if Paulie doesn't have a punch? Does he not have skill? So would Marquez not present a challenge for Khan? I mean not so long ago he ko'd Juan Diaz only 5lbs south of where Kahn fights. It's not like Khan moved up for any other reason than a title shot.
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Khan shouldnt be scared of anyone now he has Roach injecting him with this juice.
Watch another chinny fighter whos been knocked out early by a nobody suddenly develop fantastic punch resistance as he moves up in weights under Roach's guidance.
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Khan wont fight Maidana if he asks for random blood tests;)
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GAME
Khan shouldnt be scared of anyone now he has Roach injecting him with this juice.
Watch another chinny fighter whos been knocked out early by a nobody suddenly develop fantastic punch resistance as he moves up in weights under Roach's guidance.
Since when Roach is not accused of injecting steroids to his fighters? honestly, it is exactly not that kind of person if you ask me.
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GAME
Khan shouldnt be scared of anyone now he has Roach injecting him with this juice.
Watch another chinny fighter whos been knocked out early by a nobody suddenly develop fantastic punch resistance as he moves up in weights under Roach's guidance.
Can you please explain to me how steroids can improve your punch resistance?
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JoeyUK
Why the talk as if he has already vacated it? The news isn't all that credible.. it doesn't even provide a source. Who's to say Maidana's camp didn't start the rumour off?
I would rather see Khan in with the likes of Malignaggi or Diaz anyway. Not as big punchers, but IMO more credible names and overall better punchers. Sure Maidana can bang, but to me he looks like a fairly limited boxer.
Maidana is the mandatory...Maidana isn't fighting Devon Alexander anymore to pursue this match with Khan. His back is up against the wall.
I am the first to admit I think Khan is going in the right direction with them cherry pickin his fights, but when he gets in with someone who can bang its going to be lights out. Eventually he will have to step up to the plate and the true will Khan will be shown on the canvas
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So let's theoretically say that Khan takes on Maidana and outboxes him to a UD.
What is the excuse then? Maindana is a crappy unworthy fighter that was exposed? Khan is on steroids? Khan is lucky? Khan should have fought someone else?
I'm not a even a fan, but if he beats a big puncher that's a top 10 in the rankings as in something like Ring Magazine. How much credit does he deserve?
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generalbulldog
So let's theoretically say that Khan takes on Maidana and outboxes him to a UD.
What is the excuse then? Maindana is a crappy unworthy fighter that was exposed? Khan is on steroids? Khan is lucky? Khan should have fought someone else?
I'm not a even a fan, but if he beats a big puncher that's a top 10 in the rankings as in something like Ring Magazine. How much credit does he deserve?
For me, it is the first legit fight I give him credit for and it truly will show how much he has progressed going up against a puncher. Even though I don't care what anyone says he has to avenge that embarrassing KO brought on by Prescott.
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generalbulldog
So let's theoretically say that Khan takes on Maidana and outboxes him to a UD.
What is the excuse then? Maindana is a crappy unworthy fighter that was exposed? Khan is on steroids? Khan is lucky? Khan should have fought someone else?
I'm not a even a fan, but if he beats a big puncher that's a top 10 in the rankings as in something like Ring Magazine. How much credit does he deserve?
It's been done before mate. The same people who thought Kotelnik was a tough fight quickly changed their minds afterwards. Maidana would be the same. He won't get proper credit until he beats someone like Bradley. That's when the steroid claims come out ;D
Just kidding about that last bit.
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
GAME
Khan shouldnt be scared of anyone now he has Roach injecting him with this juice.
Watch another chinny fighter whos been knocked out early by a nobody suddenly develop fantastic punch resistance as he moves up in weights under Roach's guidance.
Can you please explain to me how steroids can improve your punch resistance?
It gives you better powers of recovery
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Originally Posted by
GAME
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
GAME
Khan shouldnt be scared of anyone now he has Roach injecting him with this juice.
Watch another chinny fighter whos been knocked out early by a nobody suddenly develop fantastic punch resistance as he moves up in weights under Roach's guidance.
Can you please explain to me how steroids can improve your punch resistance?
It gives you better powers of recovery
...after being counted out.
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GAME
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
GAME
Khan shouldnt be scared of anyone now he has Roach injecting him with this juice.
Watch another chinny fighter whos been knocked out early by a nobody suddenly develop fantastic punch resistance as he moves up in weights under Roach's guidance.
Can you please explain to me how steroids can improve your punch resistance?
It gives you better powers of recovery
Yeah from a workout, not from a punch.
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markb018
Khan will look like a tool if he chickens out of this. If you want to be champion then you need to act like one. This means taking risks every now and then. If Khan wasn't ready for the step up then he really should not have fought for a belt in the first place.
Come on Khan, let's see a fight for once. Give the poor huddled masses a good reason to shell out 15 quid. You can't con them forever.
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ono
The responses so far show how fickle this forum can be so far.
First of the article is almost 1 month old and there has been no further talk of this happening.
Secondly it is just that - talk. Speculation backed up with absolutely zero quotes. Warren's column in The Sun today suggests that Khan will indeed fight Maidana.
Thirdly the article also mentions possible fights with Malignaggi, Marquez and Hatton, who last time i checked, are all a level above Maidana.
Fourthly, you cannot really criticize Khan for it as he would gladly fight anyone. It's more to do with frank Warren
Fifthly (if that's a word) - you can't really critisize Khan for doing what most fighters over the last god knows how many years, have done. That is, avoiding the big risk low reward fights in favour of the lower risk higher reward fights. Why the hell would you turn down a multi-million dollar pay day to fight for less against some generally unheard of guy, for much less money. I think a few people on here have watched Rocky a few too many times. In an ideal the world, a world champions would be the best in the world, and he would continually look to prove himself by beating the next best fighter. In the real world, Boxing is more of a business and less of a sport. If promoters used the gung-ho mentality of some posters on here, we'd never witness the delights of any fighter becoming a superstar. No De La Hoya, no Manny Pacquiao, no Floyd Mayweather, no Ricky Hatton. Boxing would be just like the UFC......shite.
:vd: Always with the same excuse. Con is not under a slave contract with Warren. As the promoter Warren job is to arrange fights for Con. But it's not all his call. Con does have a say in who he fights. Rather he makes his feelings known is a different story. So the blame for Con ducking fighters who can punch can not all be placed on Warren
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Let's see where Khan goes from here. If he takes the fight and let's say he outboxes Maidana which I think he can do, he deserves all the credit for taking on a young in his prime big puncher at his division.
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Prescott has been exposed as a limited fighter , Maidana is pretty limited , however he can punch hard , so if Khan man's up ,fights and beats him UD , then we know he has the skills to avoid power and win. ( as he cant improve his weak chin )
By not fighting him is fuelling the criticts , that Khan and his camp know the first world class puncher who hits Khan on the chin , showers the first three rows of fans with broken glass.
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ono
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GAME
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ono
Can you please explain to me how steroids can improve your punch resistance?
It gives you better powers of recovery
Yeah from a workout, not from a punch.
Look at Evander as an example. He was getting knocked about by Bert Cooper but after a couple needles he was taking flush shots off Lewis and Tyson without budging
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generalbulldog
Let's see where Khan goes from here. If he takes the fight and let's say he outboxes Maidana which I think he can do, he deserves all the credit for taking on a young in his prime big puncher at his division.
Yesh! If he does take the fight and wins he deserves full credit!
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mattboxingfan
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generalbulldog
Let's see where Khan goes from here. If he takes the fight and let's say he outboxes Maidana which I think he can do, he deserves all the credit for taking on a young in his prime big puncher at his division.
Yesh! If he does take the fight and wins he deserves full credit!
I agree with that, it would be a good win for him if he manages to pull it off.
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If Khan doesnt fight Maidana him and Warren are a fucking joke, HBO want the fight Goldenboy want the fight its quite a big fight in reality but watch Franky swerve it cos he knows Khan will get his head taken off his shoulders.
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generalbulldog
Let's see where Khan goes from here. If he takes the fight and let's say he outboxes Maidana which I think he can do, he deserves all the credit for taking on a young in his prime big puncher at his division.
If he wins il say decent win nothing special he is fighting a guy who was marginally beaton maybe debatable by Kotelnik who Khan easily beat, i dont understand this he deserves credit for takeing him on bullshit.
The guy is a world champ now he knows the fucking rules Maidana is the next in line he deserves no credit at all he got himself in this posistion he needs to fight him, it's ok to fight the number 1 challanger who cant crack an egg and has a chin made of glass ( Salita ) but the next challanger is tough as nails and hits like a muel he wants to not fight, fuck that shit, unless he fights another belt holder he needs to make this fight happen.
And he gets no credit from me for takeing the fight not one bit its what he was to do being the WBA Champ.
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skel1983
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generalbulldog
Let's see where Khan goes from here. If he takes the fight and let's say he outboxes Maidana which I think he can do, he deserves all the credit for taking on a young in his prime big puncher at his division.
If he wins il say decent win nothing special he is fighting a guy who was marginally beaton maybe debatable by Kotelnik who Khan easily beat, i dont understand this he deserves credit for takeing him on bullshit.
The guy is a world champ now he knows the fucking rules Maidana is the next in line he deserves no credit at all he got himself in this posistion he needs to fight him, it's ok to fight the number 1 challanger who cant crack an egg and has a chin made of glass ( Salita ) but the next challanger is tough as nails and hits like a muel he wants to not fight, fuck that shit, unless he fights another belt holder he needs to make this fight happen.
And he gets no credit from me for takeing the fight not one bit its what he was to do being the WBA Champ.
I'm seeing it from a neutral point of view. I'm not a fan of the guy, but he has been given a lot of grief since his Prescott loss. And I thought he rebounded quite well. If he takes the fight and beats Maidana it is a very good win, because he was ko by a guy with power and it has been known that his chin was iffy. To be able to come back and beat a top 10 prime Jr. welter is something very credible, especially since he just moved up in weight.
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skel1983
If Khan doesnt fight Maidana him and Warren are a fucking joke, HBO want the fight Goldenboy want the fight its quite a big fight in reality but watch Franky swerve it cos he knows Khan will get his head taken off his shoulders.
That's the thing though. It's a joke if he doesn't fight him but it means little if he beats him. That's why i can understand Warren not really wanting the fight (as speculated). If you're going to get sparked it might aswell be in a fight where you're the underdog. Hatton got ko'd by Mayweather but he still got his fight with Pacquiao. Somehow i doubt he would if Castillo had ko'd him.
Khan has already had the misfortune of being KO'd by an complete unknown so to risk doing it again against Maidana (who isn't known to the mainstream sports fan) would probably be career suicide. In an ideal world he'd take the fight but when the risk far outweighs the gain, the chances of the fight happening will always appear slim.
Surely though, if you honestly think he'll get his head taken off, why wouldn't you give him credit if he beat Maidana? I mean that would be double standards of ICB proportions ;D
Just kidding ICB.
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Khan would deserve credit if he beat Maidana.
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ono
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skel1983
If Khan doesnt fight Maidana him and Warren are a fucking joke, HBO want the fight Goldenboy want the fight its quite a big fight in reality but watch Franky swerve it cos he knows Khan will get his head taken off his shoulders.
That's the thing though. It's a joke if he doesn't fight him but it means little if he beats him. That's why i can understand Warren not really wanting the fight (as speculated). If you're going to get sparked it might aswell be in a fight where you're the underdog. Hatton got ko'd by Mayweather but he still got his fight with Pacquiao. Somehow i doubt he would if Castillo had ko'd him.
Khan has already had the misfortune of being KO'd by an complete unknown so to risk doing it again against Maidana (who isn't known to the mainstream sports fan) would probably be career suicide. In an ideal world he'd take the fight but when the risk far outweighs the gain, the chances of the fight happening will always appear slim.
Surely though, if you honestly think he'll get his head taken off, why wouldn't you give him credit if he beat Maidana? I mean that would be double standards of ICB proportions ;D
Just kidding ICB.
Seriously are you one of Khan's entourage?? I havent seen a thread about him where you have defended him.
Secondly imo he gets sparked by Maidana yes, but why would I give him credit for beating a guy who is a limited fighter who has already been beaton by a guy Khan schooled over 12? It's not double standards at all, the fact of the matter Khan wants to proclaim he is a world champ he needs to take on the challangers who are deemed good enough to fight for his so called world title, like I say this situation was good enough for him in his last fight when they guy offered no threat at all.
You say Maidana is not mainstream but Salita was? Maidana was just on the second biggest PPV event of 2009 and in one of the best fight's of the year v Ortiz I think that alot of boxing fans know what Maidana is capable of and like I said HBO and Goldenboy want the fight proves that the fight is good business for Khan and Warren.
How long do they want to proctect his glass chin for? If he was still at a level where he was fighting contenders fair enough but if he wants to be known as a world champ he needs to fight all comers now not hand pick fighters who couldnt knock a wank out.