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Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
I must admit, Lopez is my kind of fighter, everything I've seen of him so far has impressed me. He is without a shadow of a doubt my favourite fighter of the new era. I really cant wait for this fight, I'm just hoping he makes the transition to Featherweight without too many hiccups.
I see this as a great fight for Lopez, between two very tight, skilled technicians. I remember watching Leuvano slowly but surely dismantle Nicky Cook and I must say I was very impressed. He really looked the part that night, and I couldnt really see that many holes in his game. The Cook fight was the first and last time I saw Leuvano, which is probably a little criminal as I usually keep tabs on the fighters from overseas that I like.
This is obviously a total different fight for Lopez compared to his last outing against the rugged, and often wild but always dangerous Mtagwa. That fight certainly ticked a few more boxes for me with regards Lopez's mentality and ability to alter his approach throughout the fight.
I see this being a cagey affair from the offset, with each fighter taking a little time to feel each other out. Both for me are well schooled, but even at the higher weight, I think Lopez may still have the edge with the power and certainly the speed. I see this being a very competitive 12 rounder.
Like I say, Lopez is a fighter that has me really excited, and I dont say that very often. As far as I'm aware this will be his first fight at the Garden, I really hope he rises to the occasion and shines like the star I believe him to be.
Thoughts anyone ?
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
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Jimmy G-Force
I must admit, Lopez is my kind of fighter, everything I've seen of him so far as impressed me. He is without a shadow of a doubt my favourite fighter of the new era. I really cant wait for this fight, I'm just hoping he makes the transition to Featherweight without too many hiccups.
I see this as a great fight for Lopez, between two very tight, skilled technicians. I remember watching Leuvano slowly but surely dismantle Nicky Cook and I must say I was very impressed. He really looked the part that night, and I couldnt really see that many holes in his game. The Cook fight was the first and last time I saw Leuvano, which is probably a little criminal as I usually keep tabs on the fighters from overseas that I like.
This is obviously a total different fight for Lopez compared to his last outing against the rugged, and often wild but always dangerous Mtagwa. That fight certainly ticked a few more boxes for me with regards Lopez's mentality and ability to alter his approach throughout the fight.
I see this being a cagey affair from the offset, with each fighter taking a little time to feel each other out. Both for me are well schooled, but even at the higher weight, I think Lopez may still have the edge with the power and certainly the speed. I see this being a very competitive 12 rounder.
Like I say, Lopez is a fighter that has me really excited, and I dont say that very often. As far as I'm aware this will be his first fight at the Garden, I really hope he rises to the occasion and shines like the star I believe him to be.
Thoughts anyone ?
i just hope that he comes in well prepared and doesn't overlook his opponent again, IMO he's taken the comparisons to Wilfredo Gomez too much to heart, if he stays level headed and takes on every opponent as if they were #1 in the division i think he'll be fine, but if he continues to just rely on his power, thinking that anyone he hits will crumble once he lands a huge bomb, he's not gonna live up to the bill of being the next Puerto Rican great
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
Good fight. I don't think Lopez will have much trouble with the step up. Leuvano has been hurt a few times. Leuvano to start well but eventually gets broken down. Lopez stoppage 5-8.
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
I'm taking Luevano on this one. Lopez is an exciting fighter, and if he learns to pace himself after getting rocked and nearly stopped against Mtagwa, he could take a decision. But, Luevano has a great ring IQ and is one of the best counter punchers in pro boxing. Given JML relies on his offense to be his defense I'd say this is a style that Luevano was made to shine against.
Luevano shockingly wide UD
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
I like Lopez in this one, but I hear ya Sheep - Lueveno is definitely a live dog. I plan to be at this fight. Anyone else? Gamboa versus Mtagtwa too.
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
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Rantcatrat
I like Lopez in this one, but I hear ya Sheep - Lueveno is definitely a live dog. I plan to be at this fight. Anyone else? Gamboa versus Mtagtwa too.
How great is it that these two fights are happening?
I think Gamboa stays true to form and gets off the deck to overwhelm and stop Mtagwa.
All of a sudden Featherweight is becoming a very well stacked division, Molitor has also moved up (I haven't written him off yet), Jhonny Gonzalez will also be putting in more Featherweight battles and finally Celestino Caballero will definately be entering the Featherweight ranks as well. A very exciting year ahead at 126.
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
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Rantcatrat
I like Lopez in this one, but I hear ya Sheep - Lueveno is definitely a live dog. I plan to be at this fight. Anyone else? Gamboa versus Mtagtwa too.
How great is it that these two fights are happening?
I think Gamboa stays true to form and gets off the deck to overwhelm and stop Mtagwa.
All of a sudden Featherweight is becoming a very well stacked division, Molitor has also moved up (I haven't written him off yet), Jhonny Gonzalez will also be putting in more Featherweight battles and finally Celestino Caballero will definately be entering the Featherweight ranks as well. A very exciting year ahead at 126.
also both Marquez and Vazquez are now at 126
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
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ElTerribleMorales
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killersheep
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Rantcatrat
I like Lopez in this one, but I hear ya Sheep - Lueveno is definitely a live dog. I plan to be at this fight. Anyone else? Gamboa versus Mtagtwa too.
How great is it that these two fights are happening?
I think Gamboa stays true to form and gets off the deck to overwhelm and stop Mtagwa.
All of a sudden Featherweight is becoming a very well stacked division, Molitor has also moved up (I haven't written him off yet), Jhonny Gonzalez will also be putting in more Featherweight battles and finally Celestino Caballero will definately be entering the Featherweight ranks as well. A very exciting year ahead at 126.
also both Marquez and Vazquez are now at 126
Rafa looked very sharp in his comeback, but I gotta ask how much can these guys have left? I mean they left so much of themselves in the ring during their trilogy. But yes I do concede they are also there now.
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
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killersheep
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ElTerribleMorales
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killersheep
How great is it that these two fights are happening?
I think Gamboa stays true to form and gets off the deck to overwhelm and stop Mtagwa.
All of a sudden Featherweight is becoming a very well stacked division, Molitor has also moved up (I haven't written him off yet), Jhonny Gonzalez will also be putting in more Featherweight battles and finally Celestino Caballero will definately be entering the Featherweight ranks as well. A very exciting year ahead at 126.
also both Marquez and Vazquez are now at 126
Rafa looked very sharp in his comeback, but I gotta ask how much can these guys have left? I mean they left so much of themselves in the ring during their trilogy. But yes I do concede they are also there now.
i agree Vazquez looked the more worn out of the two though
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
i agree that on paper, juanma should do away with luevano but on paper, wilfredo gomez was also supposed to dispose of salvador sanchez as well. not saying juanma is as good as gomez or luevano as sal sanchez but there are similiarities in this fight. gomez was thought of as this ferocious and he was, but when he went up against the very intelligent, counterpunching sanchez, he was suddenly in a world of trouble. the same could happen here. and don't be deceived by luevano's low KO ration because he does have deceptive KO power as witnessed when he floored mario santiago. this fight is a toss-up imo.
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i agree that on paper, juanma should do away with luevano but on paper, wilfredo gomez was also supposed to dispose of salvador sanchez as well. not saying juanma is as good as gomez or luevano as sal sanchez but there are similiarities in this fight. gomez was thought of as this ferocious and he was, but when he went up against the very intelligent, counterpunching sanchez, he was suddenly in a world of trouble. the same could happen here. and don't be deceived by luevano's low KO ration because he does have deceptive KO power as witnessed when he floored mario santiago. this fight is a toss-up imo.
and we've also seen him squeak out a dq win when he was on the verge of being ko'd
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
Hopefully the way Juanma struggled last time out was due to making the weight. If it turns out he doesn't have the same kind of power up at featherweight he could be in for a long night. I'm picking him to win though.
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Hopefully the way Juanma struggled last time out was due to making the weight. If it turns out he doesn't have the same kind of power up at featherweight he could be in for a long night. I'm picking him to win though.
i don't really think it was due to making weight, i think it was due more to him relying too much on his power and taking Mtagwa lightly, if he goes in level headed and not full of himself i think he'll win handily against Luevano, if he comes in with the same mentality as last time, he's gonna lose that 0
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
Luevano wins unanimous decision.
Luevano out boxes Lopez an makes him look lik shit.
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Luevano wins unanimous decision.
Luevano out boxes Lopez an makes him look lik shit.
Luevano got a draw with Santiago, i know Santiago, he's good, but he has nothing on Lopez, if Santiago managed to get a draw, a focused Lopez flattens Luevano, and there will be no controversy like when Concepcion hurt him
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ElTerribleMorales
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Kirkland Laing
Hopefully the way Juanma struggled last time out was due to making the weight. If it turns out he doesn't have the same kind of power up at featherweight he could be in for a long night. I'm picking him to win though.
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don't really think it was due to making weight, i think it was due more to him relying too much on his power and taking Mtagwa lightly, if he goes in level headed and not full of himself i think he'll win handily against Luevano, if he comes in with the same mentality as last time, he's gonna lose that 0
I agree. I think if he fought Mtagwa again he'd outbox in a unanimous decision. I am curious to see how Gamboa handles Mtagwa.
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luevano was NEVER in serious trouble vs. bernabe concepcion. i might have gotten tagged a couple of times but this happens in boxing. when concepcion threw that late cheat-shot after the bell, luevano was giving him a nice little boxing lesson and was comfortably ahead on points.
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ElTerribleMorales
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Manuel "Chubby" Medina
Luevano wins unanimous decision.
Luevano out boxes Lopez an makes him look lik shit.
Luevano got a draw with Santiago, i know Santiago, he's good, but he has nothing on Lopez, if Santiago managed to get a draw, a focused Lopez flattens Luevano, and there will be no controversy like when Concepcion hurt him
Luevano got a draw becuz he was fightin Santiago's fight hich he said he will never do again. If he sticks to his plan of boxin an counterin he should do more den well.
Y do you have to bring up Concepcion? any1 can hurt any1 if they give em a cheap shot cmon...
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
I question Luevano's chin. But I also question Juanma's power in that weight class.
Speed and ring generalship will be the key. The busier fighter wins.
I don't think there will be a KO. But I'm kinda leaning a little bit for Juanma by decision.
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
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Manuel "Chubby" Medina
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ElTerribleMorales
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Manuel "Chubby" Medina
Luevano wins unanimous decision.
Luevano out boxes Lopez an makes him look lik shit.
Luevano got a draw with Santiago, i know Santiago, he's good, but he has nothing on Lopez, if Santiago managed to get a draw, a focused Lopez flattens Luevano, and there will be no controversy like when Concepcion hurt him
Luevano got a draw becuz he was fightin Santiago's fight hich he said he will never do again. If he sticks to his plan of boxin an counterin he should do more den well.
Y do you have to bring up Concepcion? any1 can hurt any1 if they give em a cheap shot cmon...
Juanma only looked like shit once cause he fought his guy's fight and took him too damn lightly, like i said, if a lesser guy like Santiago was able to get into Luevano's head, a focused Juanma will be all over him, Lopez is leagues ahead of Santiago in pretty much every department, only thing is it depends on Juanma's mindset
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
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ElTerribleMorales
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Manuel "Chubby" Medina
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ElTerribleMorales
Luevano got a draw with Santiago, i know Santiago, he's good, but he has nothing on Lopez, if Santiago managed to get a draw, a focused Lopez flattens Luevano, and there will be no controversy like when Concepcion hurt him
Luevano got a draw becuz he was fightin Santiago's fight hich he said he will never do again. If he sticks to his plan of boxin an counterin he should do more den well.
Y do you have to bring up Concepcion? any1 can hurt any1 if they give em a cheap shot cmon...
Juanma only looked like shit once cause he fought his guy's fight and took him too damn lightly, like i said, if a lesser guy like Santiago was able to get into Luevano's head, a focused Juanma will be all over him, Lopez is leagues ahead of Santiago in pretty much every department, only thing is it depends on Juanma's mindset
Luevano is way higher quality fighter den Mtagwa too...
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
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Manuel "Chubby" Medina
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ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
Manuel "Chubby" Medina
Luevano got a draw becuz he was fightin Santiago's fight hich he said he will never do again. If he sticks to his plan of boxin an counterin he should do more den well.
Y do you have to bring up Concepcion? any1 can hurt any1 if they give em a cheap shot cmon...
Juanma only looked like shit once cause he fought his guy's fight and took him too damn lightly, like i said, if a lesser guy like Santiago was able to get into Luevano's head, a focused Juanma will be all over him, Lopez is leagues ahead of Santiago in pretty much every department, only thing is it depends on Juanma's mindset
Luevano is way higher quality fighter den Mtagwa too...
Also Santiago's footwork is better than JuanMa's. Granted JML's output is record setting though.
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
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Manuel "Chubby" Medina
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
Manuel "Chubby" Medina
Luevano got a draw becuz he was fightin Santiago's fight hich he said he will never do again. If he sticks to his plan of boxin an counterin he should do more den well.
Y do you have to bring up Concepcion? any1 can hurt any1 if they give em a cheap shot cmon...
Juanma only looked like shit once cause he fought his guy's fight and took him too damn lightly, like i said, if a lesser guy like Santiago was able to get into Luevano's head, a focused Juanma will be all over him, Lopez is leagues ahead of Santiago in pretty much every department, only thing is it depends on Juanma's mindset
Luevano is way higher quality fighter den Mtagwa too...
difference is Lopez still clearly won his fight, and was dominating while he boxed and wasn't just relying on his power, rewatch the fight and you can clearly see that Juanma started to become frustrated with the fact that Mtagwa could take his punches, and he began to only throw power shots, and became sloppy, so like i said, it's not like Luevano doesn't have a chance but IMO the only way he wins is if Lopez didn't learn anything from his mistake against Mtagwa, that being due to his lack of focus and buying into what he was being told, if he doesn't underestimate Luevano he beats him handily, my pick is Lopez by TKO in the 10th
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
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ElTerribleMorales
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Manuel "Chubby" Medina
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ElTerribleMorales
Juanma only looked like shit once cause he fought his guy's fight and took him too damn lightly, like i said, if a lesser guy like Santiago was able to get into Luevano's head, a focused Juanma will be all over him, Lopez is leagues ahead of Santiago in pretty much every department, only thing is it depends on Juanma's mindset
Luevano is way higher quality fighter den Mtagwa too...
difference is Lopez still clearly won his fight, and was dominating while he boxed and wasn't just relying on his power, rewatch the fight and you can clearly see that Juanma started to become frustrated with the fact that Mtagwa could take his punches, and he began to only throw power shots, and became sloppy, so like i said, it's not like Luevano doesn't have a chance but IMO the only way he wins is if Lopez didn't learn anything from his mistake against Mtagwa, that being due to his lack of focus and buying into what he was being told, if he doesn't underestimate Luevano he beats him handily, my pick is Lopez by TKO in the 10th
What you say is perfectly reasonable, my side of this comes from the fact that JuanMa is still very young really, which is why I don't think he will be able to adjust as much as Luevano can.
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
I've backed Lopez in all his fights so far but I've got an inkling that Luevano pulls the upset
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Re: Steve Leuvano v Juan Manuel Lopez
....ha ha how fast people flip !! Not directed at anyone in particular, but i can remember when they were damn close to changing the name of puerto rico to puerto juan ma. Dude plow through opponet after opponet including penalosa and he finally gets into a good scrap and the guy is hype, shot and other things i've heard the media say. As a guy progresses he should get into tougher fights, he fighting tougher guys hopefully. Would he still be the next great taking the chavez jr route and fight chumps ?? Give the guy a break is all i'm sayin. One fight, a fight he didn't even loose no less........ah as lederman would say, be as it may, i'm not a juan ma or gamboa fan for all it's worth but i do pick him to beat leuvano's ass. It will be a good fight.
