Margarito: " I'm the only one who can beat Pacquiao"
Margarito: "I'm The Only One Who Can Beat Pacquiao" - Boxing News
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Margarito: " I'm the only one who can beat Pacquiao"
Margarito: "I'm The Only One Who Can Beat Pacquiao" - Boxing News
Him and Pacquiao would be a fantastic fight.. cheat vs cheat. 10 points goes to whoever can think of a witty promotion name for the fight.
Pacquiao is way too fast for Margarito and his stamina is unparalleled. Margarito will not be able to land with any regularity, nor will he because to impose himself and wear Pacquiao down. I'd like to see this fight for one reason and that is watch Margarito take another beating.
I wouldn't like to see the fight only because Tonya Margarita would get a huge payday and he doesn't deserve it. Would be funny though if Pac was shooting Dianobol and Winstrol in between rounds and Margarita had a wheelbarrow full of bricks in his corner ;D
And to be serious I agree with CFH I think Pac makes Tonya look stupid. Mosley I think ruined that iron chin Marburrito was pretty famous for and I'd be willing to bet Pac knocks him straight out. Margarito looking for a payday f#kking jerk off :p
Yeah absolutely, Pacquiao is to everything for Margarito, he couldn't miss him with the straight left if he tried, and you know he isn't going to fade down the stretch. It's a crying shame if the fight gets made though; as much as it would be nice to see Margarito get pummeled again, he would be making several million dollars in all likelihood, which is atrocious considering what he was caught doing just a year ago. Not to mention the utter waste of time it is in the scheme of things, Pacquiao hasn't got that many fights left.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Margarito: " I'm the only one who can beat Pacquiao"
it's true
Watch the movie Friday, a brick to the head can beat steroids anyday ;D
with margabricktos size, height and reach advantages, he can possibly beat pacquiao
The next time I see Margarito I hope it is on some street corner in Cancun selling tamales. I'm not heartless though, I'd give him a tip,
"Next lifetime, don't be so fookin stupid."
:shakehead:
of course with your plaster who cant you beat?
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Originally Posted by Youngblood
Pacquiao can join him on the corner dealing drugs...
Oh yes I went there.
Not now. Mosley exposed how to beat Margarito. Body attack and throwing punches to keep him from setting his feet. Pac would be much too fast and always somewhere else by the time Margarito threw something.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
Not interested in anything Marg does or Pac fan for that matter.
You Margarito haters remind me of the Salem witch hunters. They say "Youre guilty so prove yourself innocent"
The facts are Not one single iota of proof has been presented that Tony Margarito EVER had, or attempted to have , loaded gloves
All you have are accusations & innuendos not one iota of solid proof.
Strange thing is you'll readily embrace known juicers like Mosely, Jones jr & Holyfield who are PROVEN cheaters. They received no punishment whatsoever.
Give Margarito his licence back give him a fair chance & The Tijuana Tornado will once again KICK ASS!!!!!!!!!!
Except for the fact that he was caught trying to load his gloves against Mosley. When has that ever been refuted?Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
stamina unparalleled?? does Margarito not hold the record for most punches thrown in a round and in a fight recorded by copy box?? His whole style is based on relentless aggression and pressure, this guys throwing over 100 punches a round in the championship rounds for gods sake. I've said it before and I'll say it again he would have beat Cotto with or without the plaster, he is a very big welterweight, Pac man is a very small one, I think if they fight Margarito wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
I didn't say anything about Margarito's stamina, he's well known as a very conditioned fighter. However, so is Pacquiao and much of Margarito's game is predicated upon breaking down his opponent physically and mentally, and he will not be able to do that against Pacquiao. I don't see any way a plodding fighter like Margarito beats Pacquiao.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxer dudestamina unparalleled?? does Margarito not hold the record for most punches thrown in a round and in a fight recorded by copy box?? His whole style is based on relentless aggression and pressure, this guys throwing over 100 punches a round in the championship rounds for gods sake. I've said it before and I'll say it again he would have beat Cotto with or without the plaster, he is a very big welterweight, Pac man is a very small one, I think if they fight Margarito wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
haha
If Margarito thinks he's gettin a huge pay day somewhere down the line fighting Pacquaio he's fuckin nuts.
He's pretty much the slowest welterweight out there among the elite guys, and if he couldn't handle Mosley's speed then he damn sure couldn't hack it with Pacquaio.
I'll bet he's the only man who can beat Manny, just as long as you let him use all the plaster a paris he wants to...
NBA player Gilbert Arenas was suspended indefinitely for bringing an unloaded gun in the locker room. Boxer Antonio Margarito has his license revoked for at least one year for bringing a loaded glove in the ring and using it. If he gets his license back soon, then what the ...!!! He could have killed his opponent and all he gets is a slap on the wrist. He should have been legally prosecuted for that.
I'm sorry but he doesn't deserve to fight with the elite and be paid a lot of money. If he comes back, make him start from the bottom again.
Both are absolute disgraces to the sport. I would never pay to see this fight. Margacheato doesn't deserve a payday like this.. and if it ever did come to fruition, I hope he'd ask for decent drug-testing... Pac would be running for the hills. :rolleyes:
Sorry, I overreacted on this one. Margarito wasn't able to bring the loaded gloves in the ring nor was he able to use it in his fight with Shane Mosley. He was caught in the locker room. I was thinking of the beating that he gave Miguel Cotto. Although I highly suspected that he had already used loaded gloves then it hasn't been proven. He still doesn't deserve to get a huge payday.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
Just a question, what do you think would be a decent drug-testing?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBranMan
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Originally Posted by TheBranMan
Calling these fighters absolute disgraces is a little too strong if you ask me, nothing has ever been proven against Pac Man and I highly doubt Margarito had loaded gloves in the Cotto fight. For all we know the Mosley fight was the only time. Would you call Pryor an absolute disgrace for drinking out of a suspect water bottle in the fist Arguello fight?? Wut ever was really in that bottle Pryor aint need and he proved it in the rematch, and Pac man will prove that he don't need no PED's in his future fights. Calling the best pound for pond fighter in the world and absolute disgrace based souly on hoopla is alittle too strong, and quite frankly, a bit ignorant.
Agreed. Dont really like Pac but nothing has officially been proven yet. No one really knows for sure how long Margarito has been loading his gloves.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxer dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by TheBranMan
Calling these fighters absolute disgraces is a little too strong if you ask me, nothing has ever been proven against Pac Man and I highly doubt Margarito had loaded gloves in the Cotto fight. For all we know the Mosley fight was the only time. Would you call Pryor an absolute disgrace for drinking out of a suspect water bottle in the fist Arguello fight?? Wut ever was really in that bottle Pryor aint need and he proved it in the rematch, and Pac man will prove that he don't need no PED's in his future fights. Calling the best pound for pond fighter in the world and absolute disgrace based souly on hoopla is alittle too strong, and quite frankly, a bit ignorant.
Although we're not sure as to how long Margarito had loaded his gloves, the fact that he was caught made me suspicious of his other victories. If he beat Cotto cleanly, why then would he cheat in his next fight which is Mosley who happened to have been beaten by Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by jabvargas24Agreed. Dont really like Pac but nothing has officially been proven yet. No one really knows for sure how long Margarito has been loading his gloves.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxer dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by TheBranMan
Calling these fighters absolute disgraces is a little too strong if you ask me, nothing has ever been proven against Pac Man and I highly doubt Margarito had loaded gloves in the Cotto fight. For all we know the Mosley fight was the only time. Would you call Pryor an absolute disgrace for drinking out of a suspect water bottle in the fist Arguello fight?? Wut ever was really in that bottle Pryor aint need and he proved it in the rematch, and Pac man will prove that he don't need no PED's in his future fights. Calling the best pound for pond fighter in the world and absolute disgrace based souly on hoopla is alittle too strong, and quite frankly, a bit ignorant.
I also agree that what they have on Pacquiao are only speculations and it hasn't been proven that he had used PEDs. But if it will be proven that he indeed is on PEDs, then I will also put his other accomplishments to question. Cheaters do not need to be given the benefit of the doubt. But as of this time, I would not consider Manny as a cheater.
I'm still waiting for anyone who claims Pacquiao has EVER cheated to provide some sort of proof. IE: gloves with plaster of paris. Not BS internet rumor or speculation. Don't quote as your source Floyd Sr or Roger's claim of 500 yr old A-side meth that makes the user inpregnable to 45-cal bullets. Unless you have proof in-hand when you make an accusation you need to STFU. Otherwise that makes you both a liar and a fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeyUK
I'm sure there are reasons to be suspicious since Pacquaio didn't agree to the testing. But labeling him a cheat is too premature. Some say why did he walk away from 40 million over a little drug test? I'd ask the same question to Floyd why walk away from 40 million over 10 days ?
Sorry buddy, but you can't compare those two things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stale_hotdog
Walking away because of drug testing looks suspicious, whereas walking away because the other party doesn't agree to the drug test is... well, maybe a good move. ;)
I don't believe any of them walked away from the drug test. From my recollection, both of them agreed to the drug testing, they just did not agree on the date it can be last taken prior to the fight (24 days vs 14 days). I just wished that since Manny already agreed to what is beyond what is required by the Nevada Boxing Commission, then Floyd should have accepted Manny's terms & we would have been waiting for their fight right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3Sorry buddy, but you can't compare those two things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stale_hotdog
Walking away because of drug testing looks suspicious, whereas walking away because the other party doesn't agree to the drug test is... well, maybe a good move. ;)
That's a bit of a play on words. A test even as close as 2 days before the fight shouldn't cause a boxer problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerI don't believe any of them walked away from the drug test. From my recollection, both of them agreed to the drug testing, they just did not agree on the date it can be last taken prior to the fight (24 days vs 14 days). I just wished that since Manny already agreed to what is beyond what is required by the Nevada Boxing Commission, then Floyd should have accepted Manny's terms & we would have been waiting for their fight right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3Sorry buddy, but you can't compare those two things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stale_hotdog
Walking away because of drug testing looks suspicious, whereas walking away because the other party doesn't agree to the drug test is... well, maybe a good move. ;)
I consider myself a pretty rational thinker and I can't come up with many reasons why I would not want to take a drug test randomly.
So, to reword what I stated so that it cannot be taken out of context:
Manny walked away from 40 million because of drug testing too close to the fight date, and Floyd walked away from 40 million because Manny wouldn't go for the.. ah, I'm too tired to finish this thought really.
If you'd want to phrase it that Manny walked away from 40 million because of drug testing too close to the fight date, then you should also be fair and say thet Floyd walked away from 40 million because of drug testing that is not on his terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerI don't believe any of them walked away from the drug test. From my recollection, both of them agreed to the drug testing, they just did not agree on the date it can be last taken prior to the fight (24 days vs 14 days). I just wished that since Manny already agreed to what is beyond what is required by the Nevada Boxing Commission, then Floyd should have accepted Manny's terms & we would have been waiting for their fight right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3
That's a bit of a play on words. A test even as close as 2 days before the fight shouldn't cause a boxer problems.
I consider myself a pretty rational thinker and I can't come up with many reasons why I would not want to take a drug test randomly.
So, to reword what I stated so that it cannot be taken out of context:
Manny walked away from 40 million because of drug testing too close to the fight date, and Floyd walked away from 40 million because Manny wouldn't go for the.. ah, I'm too tired to finish this thought really.
Let us take Manny's terms. It's random blood drug test 24 days before the fight & in the locker room immediately after the fight. Floyd was not agreeable to this term bec. Manny might use PEDs around the 23rd day up until 5 - 3 days before the fight (hey, they have to make sure it's already out of Manny's system by the time they take the last drug test). So the assumption is that Manny will be on PEDs for 2 1/2 weeks. For crying out loud, Floyd walked away from 40 million bec. of those 2 1/2 weeks!!! Did anyone in this forum even think that Manny is that strong & powerful that 2 1/2 weeks will even matter. I have read here a lot of excuses(and they seem to be valid) as to why Manny beat Dela Hoya, Hatton or Cotto. So that goes to show that he is still considered human & beatable. And to think that Pacquiao is the underdog in that fight with Mayweather. So, we cannot blame just one of them for the fight not happening. I put the blame on both of them, but I had wished that Floyd gave in to the 24 days. And the reason I'm saying this is bec. Manny's term is already beyond what is required by the Nevada Boxing Commission.
Its dangerous I know, but I will assume that your a Manny fan right? The reason for all the suspicion is that he won't take the test that would clear him. If you don't take the test how can you prove positive?Quote:
Originally Posted by pijoeI'm still waiting for anyone who claims Pacquiao has EVER cheated to provide some sort of proof. IE: gloves with plaster of paris. Not BS internet rumor or speculation. Don't quote as your source Floyd Sr or Roger's claim of 500 yr old A-side meth that makes the user inpregnable to 45-cal bullets. Unless you have proof in-hand when you make an accusation you need to STFU. Otherwise that makes you both a liar and a fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeyUK
Manny could have walked away because he knew he had been using PED's and it would have become obvious in the resulting fight. PBF could have walked away because he didn't want to risk his legacy against someone who could be using PED'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Stale_hotdog
Most PED's can remain in the blood stream for up to a month so the fact that Manny has never tested positive is enough to give him the benefit of the doubt. I believe all fighters are required to take drug tests right after the fight and many fighters have tested positive right after wards, Manny never has.
I cant see Margarito ever getting a huge name like Pacquiao to fight him. Margarito will always been seen as a fraud from now on, and rightly so.
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Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerIf you'd want to phrase it that Manny walked away from 40 million because of drug testing too close to the fight date, then you should also be fair and say thet Floyd walked away from 40 million because of drug testing that is not on his terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
That's a bit of a play on words. A test even as close as 2 days before the fight shouldn't cause a boxer problems.
I consider myself a pretty rational thinker and I can't come up with many reasons why I would not want to take a drug test randomly.
So, to reword what I stated so that it cannot be taken out of context:
Manny walked away from 40 million because of drug testing too close to the fight date, and Floyd walked away from 40 million because Manny wouldn't go for the.. ah, I'm too tired to finish this thought really.
Let us take Manny's terms. It's random blood drug test 24 days before the fight & in the locker room immediately after the fight. Floyd was not agreeable to this term bec. Manny might use PEDs around the 23rd day up until 5 - 3 days before the fight (hey, they have to make sure it's already out of Manny's system by the time they take the last drug test). So the assumption is that Manny will be on PEDs for 2 1/2 weeks. For crying out loud, Floyd walked away from 40 million bec. of those 2 1/2 weeks!!! Did anyone in this forum even think that Manny is that strong & powerful that 2 1/2 weeks will even matter. I have read here a lot of excuses(and they seem to be valid) as to why Manny beat Dela Hoya, Hatton or Cotto. So that goes to show that he is still considered human & beatable. And to think that Pacquiao is the underdog in that fight with Mayweather. So, we cannot blame just one of them for the fight not happening. I put the blame on both of them, but I had wished that Floyd gave in to the 24 days. And the reason I'm saying this is bec. Manny's term is already beyond what is required by the Nevada Boxing Commission.
That is a load of crap. Manny walked away from the fight because he was opposed to the random testing, for whatever reason you'd like to believe from his camp. Floyd walked away from the fight because Pacquiao wasn't willing to prove that he wasn't in fact on drugs by accepting the tests. It really can't get any more clear cut when you consider how much money was at stake.
Let us clarify that statement. Manny was opposed to random blood testing less than 24 days before the fight. He is agreeable to unlimited random urine drug test. They both walked away from the fight because they did not agree on the terms with regards to when the blood testing will last be done prior to the fight. If let's say Manny do intend to use PEDs for 2 1/2 weeks prior to the fight, does Mayweather think that will be enough of an advantage for Manny. Doesn't he get an advantage himself by his use of xylocaine? Floyd has always insisted that he is the best & the P4P king so he just call in Manny's bluff & beat the shit out of him. Both of them are at fault for the fight not happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerIf you'd want to phrase it that Manny walked away from 40 million because of drug testing too close to the fight date, then you should also be fair and say thet Floyd walked away from 40 million because of drug testing that is not on his terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3
Let us take Manny's terms. It's random blood drug test 24 days before the fight & in the locker room immediately after the fight. Floyd was not agreeable to this term bec. Manny might use PEDs around the 23rd day up until 5 - 3 days before the fight (hey, they have to make sure it's already out of Manny's system by the time they take the last drug test). So the assumption is that Manny will be on PEDs for 2 1/2 weeks. For crying out loud, Floyd walked away from 40 million bec. of those 2 1/2 weeks!!! Did anyone in this forum even think that Manny is that strong & powerful that 2 1/2 weeks will even matter. I have read here a lot of excuses(and they seem to be valid) as to why Manny beat Dela Hoya, Hatton or Cotto. So that goes to show that he is still considered human & beatable. And to think that Pacquiao is the underdog in that fight with Mayweather. So, we cannot blame just one of them for the fight not happening. I put the blame on both of them, but I had wished that Floyd gave in to the 24 days. And the reason I'm saying this is bec. Manny's term is already beyond what is required by the Nevada Boxing Commission.
That is a load of crap. Manny walked away from the fight because he was opposed to the random testing, for whatever reason you'd like to believe from his camp. Floyd walked away from the fight because Pacquiao wasn't willing to prove that he wasn't in fact on drugs by accepting the tests. It really can't get any more clear cut when you consider how much money was at stake.
To be fair i could beat PACMAN with plaster gloves on.Quote:
Originally Posted by jabvargas24
That, my friend, is irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerLet us clarify that statement. Manny was opposed to random blood testing less than 24 days before the fight. He is agreeable to unlimited random urine drug test. They both walked away from the fight because they did not agree on the terms with regards to when the blood testing will last be done prior to the fight. If let's say Manny do intend to use PEDs for 2 1/2 weeks prior to the fight, does Mayweather think that will be enough of an advantage for Manny. Doesn't he get an advantage himself by his use of xylocaine? Floyd has always insisted that he is the best & the P4P king so he just call in Manny's bluff & beat the shit out of him. Both of them are at fault for the fight not happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
That is a load of crap. Manny walked away from the fight because he was opposed to the random testing, for whatever reason you'd like to believe from his camp. Floyd walked away from the fight because Pacquiao wasn't willing to prove that he wasn't in fact on drugs by accepting the tests. It really can't get any more clear cut when you consider how much money was at stake.
How many lines of text does it take to explain our way around 1 simple principle?
Its not about how much advantage one could obtain. It's all very simple.
Ready?
Why would anyone not want to take a drug test at -any time-?
How can a test be too close to fight night? How? why? What logical explanation could there be? That's the point. Addressing anything else is simply a distraction from something that is actually very simple in principle.
sticking a needle in your arm and drawing blood makes you feel light headed and weak, compromising at least one day of hard training, if Pac man feels that he does not want to compromise not even one day of hard training 24 days or less before the biggest fight of his life he is well within his rights to turn down that stipulation. the fact that he has no problem taking a pop urine test at any time before the fight pretty much proves that he is clean.