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"Whatever type of cheating you're doing, it's wrong. You should be banned for life." - Oscar Dela Hoya
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxin...79898421_x.htm
So why is he still promoting Shane Mosley?
Does he ever think 1st before he open his mouth?
What do you think is wrong with him? this is not the 1st time
- 16X16, 18X18 or 20X20 ring?
- Does the midget hit hard or not?
Just to put pressure on Pacman, I think. Oscar says weird things here and here, he has gotten the TM's syndrome while aging.Quote:
Originally Posted by miron_lang
Well I agree with the quote. I think any athlete in any sport caught cheating should be banned. If rules were enforced that harshly competitors would be less inclined to take the risk.
That said oscar is going back on it and showing double standards by promoting Mosely.
It just shows there are two Oscars. Oscar the boxer and Oscar the business man.
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Originally Posted by NamelessJust to put pressure on Pacman, I think. Oscar says weird things here and here, he has gotten the TM's syndrome while aging.Quote:
Originally Posted by miron_lang
He's talking about Marg in particular but cant he just say it like
"If you're cheating with loaded gloves, it's wrong. You should be banned for life."
That at least is not a hit on Mosley. Its total contradiction the way he said it.
I do agree that the way he said it it doesn't make sense. Still, I am sure that Pac's on his backmind and it is psychological warfare for the potential bout with Mayweather later in 2010.Quote:
Originally Posted by miron_langQuote:
Originally Posted by NamelessJust to put pressure on Pacman, I think. Oscar says weird things here and here, he has gotten the TM's syndrome while aging.Quote:
Originally Posted by miron_lang
He's talking about Marg in particular but cant he just say it like
"If you're cheating with loaded gloves, it's wrong. You should be banned for life."
That at least is not a hit on Mosley. Its total contradiction the way he said it.
well if some up and coming prospect is asking Oscar for advice andQuote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
on Monday he said : "Cheating is bad you wont get anywhere with that"
and on Wednesday he said : "If you want to make it big fast. You should cheat"
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You could be right. But with the kind of money he has. he can easily afford someone to write proper statements for him. So he wont sound or look like an idiot out there :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
I think there needs to be level playing field in sport and since everyone can't be drug tested all the time, i actually think performance enhancers should be legalised.
Imagine the Olympics with every athlete on roids. It would be awesome. Imagine seeing female runners with big square jaws and fencers having to deal with roid rage? Imagine seeing the shot put flying out of the stadium?
It would be class.
i'm sure Arum and King have just as much money as DLH and they've made their living off coming off as idiots ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by miron_langYou could be right. But with the kind of money he has. he can easily afford someone to write proper statements for him. So he wont sound or look like an idiot out there :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
Someone was saying at my work we should have 2 Olympics for the 'roid guys and one for the regular guys.
We could have the Women's Mustache Hurdles, the Shrunken Ball Decathalon, and the 'Roid Rage swimming. Nah, better just leave the pot heads to do all the good swimming.
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Originally Posted by ono
Yeah, I think DLH just got caught in the moment about Margarito. What Margarito leaves a disgusting feeling to a lot of people. Imagine if you were Cotto. I don't agree that all cheating warrants a lifetime ban though. I do agree that loading gloves should be a lifetime ban. PEDs should be something like a harsh fine with about a 5 year ban.
He is a promoter and he will criticise other opponents with different promoters but he will have fighter that will end up doing the same.
LOL, you mean like this? Hulu - Saturday Night Live: Weekend Update: All Drug OlympicsQuote:
Originally Posted by JonnyFoldsSomeone was saying at my work we should have 2 Olympics for the 'roid guys and one for the regular guys.
We could have the Women's Mustache Hurdles, the Shrunken Ball Decathalon, and the 'Roid Rage swimming. Nah, better just leave the pot heads to do all the good swimming.
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Originally Posted by ono
De La Hoya carries himself well with the public speaking, but he's not near as sharp as people seem to think he is.
Regarding performance enhancing drugs, Shane Mosley's already been mentioned, but how come no suspicions about Golden Boy Promotions' Bernard Hopkins ?
Pretty amazing that a man of his age has been able to go so high in weight at an advanced age and still defeat top fighters.
Or Golden Boys new acquisition, David Haye, who's come up from Cruiserweight and is now a Heavyweight belt holder.
Quite the physique on Haye, quite a bit bigger than he used to be and still with zippo body-fat.
Hey, make no mistake:
I'm a HUGE fan of all 3 of these warriors, but with so much drug talk from Golden Boy about Pacquiao, why no drug talk about his guys, Mosley, Hopkins, and Haye who've added a lot more beef than Pacquiao's 4 pounds in 4 years.
Or even Golden Boys venture into MMA co-promoting Affliction which folded in August amidst a steroid scandal involving Josh Barnett.
First choice to replace Barnett to fight Fedor was The Phenom Vitor Belfort who also has a positive steroid test in his background.
De La Hoya's just bitter because he'll never get the fan-support of the Mexicans which he so desperately craves, and instead of looking in the mirror at the guy who concede on his stool, he blames Pacquiao instead.
Hey, it was his own foolish decision to fight Pacquiao who was like half his size anyway; if he wanted to finally earn the respect of the Mexican people, he should have fought Tony Margarito instead and went out on his shield.
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^Well to be fair, Oscar is going to go down as one of the most watched fighters, having one of the highest buy rates & being one half of the most bought fight in the history of the sport. So even if the Mexican people don't like him, there are alot of others who do.
Haha! That's pretty funny. The olympics would be the equivalent of a pie eating contest. Who can do the most roids and not die. I think that Death and health risk is the main reason that they don't legalize performance enhancers in sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Thing is though the UFC is already there. 90% of those fuckers are juicing, it's bleeding obvious.
Well they need to find some way to supliment their lack of proper form when "stiking"Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerHaha! That's pretty funny. The olympics would be the equivalent of a pie eating contest. Who can do the most roids and not die. I think that Death and health risk is the main reason that they don't legalize performance enhancers in sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Thing is though the UFC is already there. 90% of those fuckers are juicing, it's bleeding obvious.
Could be that Oscar fully meant it as a little jab at Mosley. Although they are in business together, I never got the sense they would have any kind of personal relationship... And DLH is a proud man, I'm sure he does have some anamosity to this day about not getting the decision in the second fight with Shane(who was almost certainly using PEDS leading up to it). It's not as if he's going to jeapordize Mosley's standing with Golden Boy by making this claim, especially since Shane never actually tested positive for anything.
Could be that Oscar fully meant it as a little jab at Mosley. Although they are in business together, I never got the sense they would have any kind of personal relationship... And DLH is a proud man, I'm sure he does have some anamosity to this day about not getting the decision in the second fight with Shane(who was almost certainly using PEDS leading up to it). It's not as if he's going to jeapordize Mosley's standing with Golden Boy by making this claim, especially since Shane never actually tested positive for anything.
Well shit, as much as I like Mosley, I'd have to agree with him. I wouldn't miss Mosley if I knew we were watching a sport and not a drugged-up joke.
It's funny how the pactards instantly jump on anyone that slams cheaters. :lickish:
Oscar is just being a savvy businessman a.k.a asshat
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Originally Posted by miron_lang
"The fight is close to being made - Oscar
Weeks later
"There's no negotiation, I only say its close because of the media" - The same Oscar
...oscar is just doing his job. All of the sudden people act lik there is a such thing as a promoter that doesn't do this same crap, cause we all know arum, king, etc....are straight shooters. At least oscar says his bullshit during buisness hours. Not suckering a bunch of people to stay up till midnight to hear it.