Marquez v Khan nearly done deal for May 15th HBO

Golden Boy is working to finalize an Amir Khan-Juan Manuel Marquez bout for May 15 on HBO. "We are actively working on it," Golden Boy's Schaefer told ESPN.com. "Khan is willing to fight to him and Marquez wants to fight at 140. He told us he doesn't want to fight at 135 anymore." Marquez, the lightweight champion, would move up to junior welterweight to fight Khan, who holds a 140-pound title. England's Khan recently signed with Golden Boy, which has promoted Marquez for years. Schaefer said the two leading sites to host the fight are Las Vegas and Houston.
http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/not...k-paydays-mind

Maidana could fight Zab Judah on the undercard he has agreed to step aside aslong as Khan fights him after the JMM fight, so Khan keeps his title.

Ortiz/Campbell also could be on the undercard, if them three fights come off that would be special.

It will be interesting to see how this fight goes down if it happens. Roach seems to be shaping Khan into another Pac or at least trying. Let me be clear Khan is no Pac, that being said JMM was the most successful against Pac. I don't think Khan has the power to KO JMM or the skill to beat him. JMM is going to counter the shit out of Khan, not nearly enough experience. Roach/Khan might have picked the wrong old mexican this time.

That's actually a pretty good card!!

I think Judah/Maidana could be an absolute cracker.

I hope it goes through ok, I would prefer Vegas over Houston for this, simply because I haven't seen a good decision in Texas in a while.

I still think Marquez wins regardless of the fact he is at a big disadvantage with Khans size and speed.

Marquez has shown good power at 135 so i doubt 5 pounds will affect it. He is also a excellent counter puncher.

I expect Khan to have early success with his speed and movement but as the fight progresses the tougher more experienced Marquez starts to wear Khan down with body shots and sharp combos. Once the fight eachs the late stages, I see Marquez dropping Khan with a big shot, Khan makes it to his feet but Marquez jumps on the the attack straight away and the ref has no choice but to step in.

Just made a little story there. :)

Now that's actually an awesome card if true, we very rarely get those kinda cards anymore..

I actually checked flights to Vegas today when half contemplating Khan Vs Marquez but figured it weren't worth going. That kinda card might may me think twice.

This time last year JMM was being touted for PFP No1, now all of a sudden he's a gate keeper for Khan? :confused: People have short memories!!!

That said apparently Roach said months that Khan would destro Marquez..

It makes sense and is a better fight for Amir to fight JMM which is a bigger name. The Maidana fight will be bigger after his victory over Zab.

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Originally Posted by Master

It makes sense and is a better fight for Amir to fight JMM which is a bigger name. The Maidana fight will be bigger after his victory over Zab.

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I wouldn't write Judah off at 140. It's his comfort zone and I think he could well be a force there again. I half hope i'm wrong because he's an arrogant little shit but I honestly see him being quite successful again at 140.

Marquez is an excellent fighter at lightweight (135 lb) & a horrible one at welterweight (147 lb). It would be interesting to see how he does at super lightweight (140 lb). But then again, it is hard to determine just how horrible he was because he was at a disadvantage when he was up against a superb boxer in Mayweather.

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Now that's actually an awesome card if true, we very rarely get those kinda cards anymore..

I actually checked flights to Vegas today when half contemplating Khan Vs Marquez but figured it weren't worth going. That kinda card might may me think twice.

This time last year JMM was being touted for PFP No1, now all of a sudden he's a gate keeper for Khan? :confused: People have short memories!!!

That said apparently Roach said months that Khan would destro Marquez..

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so if khan beats jmm that makes him top5 p4p? Nope. People have seen how slow jmm looked against floyd and see the same thing happening with khan. Jmm will have problems with khans foot speed and pitter patter flurries but i want to see what happens after 6 rounds.

Definately a very winnable fight for Khan. That said, I see it being a copy of JMM-Diaz where Khan will jump on him early on, and JMM will have better success as the rounds go on. Although Khan is significantly faster and more accurate than Diaz, so he might just be able to force a TKO if he does jump on JMM early on.

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Originally Posted by skel1983

Golden Boy is working to finalize an Amir Khan-Juan Manuel Marquez bout for May 15 on HBO. "We are actively working on it," Golden Boy's Schaefer told ESPN.com. "Khan is willing to fight to him and Marquez wants to fight at 140. He told us he doesn't want to fight at 135 anymore." Marquez, the lightweight champion, would move up to junior welterweight to fight Khan, who holds a 140-pound title. England's Khan recently signed with Golden Boy, which has promoted Marquez for years. Schaefer said the two leading sites to host the fight are Las Vegas and Houston.
http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/not...k-paydays-mind

Maidana could fight Zab Judah on the undercard he has agreed to step aside aslong as Khan fights him after the JMM fight, so Khan keeps his title.

Ortiz/Campbell also could be on the undercard, if them three fights come off that would be special.

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That does sound like a great card.

If Maidana can survive the first three or four rounds against Judah, I think he'd take him out (what remarkably insightful and unique commentary about Judah, I know).

I think Campbell should beat Ortiz, but it depends on how much he has left in the tank (which I feel is probably very little). He's one of my favorite fighters though and I'd love to see him get a few more big paydays. If he's even close to the form he had in the Diaz fight, I bet he makes Ortiz quit again.

Still leaning towards Marquez in a big way.Sail a ship through that class and experience difference.Maybe Khan will get lucky and have an early cut open up or something :-X.I'll take a JMM arguably being off a notch of best (that Mayweather 'fight' really needs proper perspective) over a still learning though improving Khan......I think Judahs on borrowed time and all prepped for gate keeper status.Looked frazzled over last couple and pretty catchable now. Face seems very thin and suspect to wear and tear more so.I think Maidana takes the predictable early round "oohhhs and awww" fast shots from Zab and then grinds Judah down in the late rounds....two different directions of momentum these two.....If I was Ortizs people I would not pick Campbell as a next up after his shaky psyche was seemingly exposed...physically Ortiz is HUGE in contrast and should jump Nate right out of the gate but the longer it goes the better the old very cagey vets chances are.I want Nate to win and mentally I think its almost a no contest,Nate is one of the most ring savvy fighters (save for Pedan fiasco's ha) going today....but I think Ortiz bounces back and Campbell wont be able to keep him off plain and simple.

Imo Khan is walking into a huge trap. He'll look good for the first 3 or 4 rounds but at some point he is going to have to stand in and exchange with Marquez, because he isn't a great boxer on the outside. With as reckless and as nervous as Khan seems, I really have a hard time writing Marquez off. I agree with Spicoli that those giving considerations to the Mayweather fight are in for a huge surprise.

Maidana-Khan is a tossup imo. Maidana is raw but has a hell of a chin and Judah could be shot :mad: Judah KTFO though. It seems like Zab has been around forever, wonder if he can get out of the way of Maidana's shots enough to survive.

Campbell-Ortiz, that's another very interesting fight of which I have no clue on who wins.

If Marquez has maintained the same form he showed against Casamayor and Diaz, then Khan is going to get starched quite badly. I hope the fight happens. ;)

Khan doesn't deserve this oppertunity. He has done nothing to warrant being in there with a top p4p fighter. I'm sick of this bullshit that Roach is feeding us about how they want to build the Maidana fight. In truth, they want Maidana to get beat so they can avoid him like the plague. Khan's career thus far has been a complete con. It's bad for boxing. If ths fight happens, I truly hope Marquez lands the money shot and lays Khan on his back.

My only worry is now that Khan is a GBP fighter, JMM career is winding down. If they put in a ref that might favor some fast bullshit pitter patter combos they could do a bullshit stoppage. But that is just me speculating and completely unjustified

After the Mayweather Marquez fight, in a magazine over here in the UK called shortlist, it showed Mayweather taking a completely flush shot on the nose from Marquez, perfectly clear. Now if Marquez can land perfectly clear on Mayweather, then I'd say Khan is in deep water for sure but probably his speed will get him out. I'd even go as far as saying that Khan is faster than PBF, just without the chin..... Ha

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After the Mayweather Marquez fight, in a magazine over here in the UK called shortlist, it showed Mayweather taking a completely flush shot on the nose from Marquez, perfectly clear. Now if Marquez can land perfectly clear on Mayweather, then I'd say Khan is in deep water for sure but probably his speed will get him out. I'd even go as far as saying that Khan is faster than PBF, just without the chin..... Ha

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or the punch or the charm....which is saying something

If its the real Zab, Judah TKO 1, if it doesn't happen then I won't feel bad cause we'd know that it wasn't the real Zab.

I think they think JMM isn't as good coming forward, is old, etc., and Khan's feet will be way too fast, he'll move, turn, never let JMM get set and pitter patter his way to a win. They could be right but it might be a step too far. Zab TKO 1.

I couldn't handle another one of my favorite fighters, losing to Amir Khan. I mean P4P JMM eats Amir Khan alive, but this fight is taking place at 140 right ?

And IMO JMM hasn't really got the body shape, to move up successfully like Manny Pacquiao. And as we've seen vs FMJ he looked slow and fleshy around the midsection.

Freddie Roach is a smart man and i can't see him taking this fight, unless he really believes JMM is past his best, and the weightclass is a big disadvantage.

Plus lets look at the size difference here.

JMM

Height 5'7
Reach 67


Amir Khan

Height 5'10
Reach 71

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

If its the real Zab, Judah TKO 1, if it doesn't happen then I won't feel bad cause we'd know that it wasn't the real Zab.

I think they think JMM isn't as good coming forward, is old, etc., and Khan's feet will be way too fast, he'll move, turn, never let JMM get set and pitter patter his way to a win. They could be right but it might be a step too far. Zab TKO 1.

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Im not trying to be an ass here Ouma, but what is the real Zab Judah ? i don't think i've ever seen Zab Judah ever keep it together against an elite opponent for 12 rounds. Maybe against Cory Spinks but he wasn't pressured, in any of those fights.

He means a focused Judah ICB, the same focused Judah who has never lost a fight in which he's been in. A focused Judah, the one who beat Junior Witter and that btch who was trying to cheat him in dice, or the one that forced Jay Nady into submission after his fight with Kostya Tszyu. If you want to know who the real Zab Judah is, just watch that fight. He was clearly unfocused against Kostya Tszyu thus he lost the fight. After regaining his concentration, he unleashed hellfire on Jay Nady. Had Tszyu possessed the cojones to rematch Judah immediately (right after the bout), he would have felt the wrath of the real Zab Judah and things would have been different.

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I couldn't handle another one of my favorite fighters, losing to Amir Khan. I mean P4P JMM eats Amir Khan alive, but this fight is taking place at 140 right ?

And IMO JMM hasn't really got the DRUGS, to move up successfully like Manny Pacquiao. And as we've seen vs FMJ he looked slow and fleshy around the midsection.

Freddie Roach is a con artist and i can't see him taking this fight, unless he really believes JMM is past his best, and the weightclass is a big disadvantage.

Plus lets look at the size difference here.

JMM

Height 5'7
Reach 67


Amir Khan

Height 5'10
Reach 71

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Sorted! ;)

On a serious note I too would be gutted if Marquez lost to this clown...in the past, Khan doesn't even carry his spit-bucket. Right now? and at 140? After the Mayweather beating? I'm not sure he has enough in the tank..Khan will start fast and try to take him out in the first 3-4 rounds..if that fails, he'll do his pitty-pat stuff like he did against Kotelnik..If it goes this route, Marquez has a great chance to catch him late because Khan faded badly towards the end of that fight.

Then again, he's in camp Pacroid now so who knows what they got him on ;);D

I hope Marquez pulls it out the bag..he doesn't deserve to lose to Khan

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He means a focused Judah ICB, the same focused Judah who has never lost a fight in which he's been in. A focused Judah, the one who beat Junior Witter and that btch who was trying to cheat him in dice, or the one that forced Jay Nady into submission after his fight with Kostya Tszyu. If you want to know who the real Zab Judah is, just watch that fight. He was clearly unfocused against Kostya Tszyu thus he lost the fight. After regaining his concentration, he unleashed hellfire on Jay Nady. Had Tszyu possessed the cojones to rematch Judah immediately (right after the bout), he would have felt the wrath of the real Zab Judah and things would have been different.

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Yes. ICB you can go ahead and take this as my answer, hopefully things work out okay and Zab doesn't revoke your New York pass.