Shane Mosley: "Margarito Should Get His License" - Boxing News
Well of course if Shane would have said cheaters should be banned or not reinstated he would seem kind of hypocritical. He blames it on Margarito's trainer and not on Margo himself.
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Well of course if Shane would have said cheaters should be banned or not reinstated he would seem kind of hypocritical. He blames it on Margarito's trainer and not on Margo himself.
I agree with him as long as he doesn't complain if I challenge him in the ring with a baseball bat. After all, if attacking peoples with weapons is not that bad, I shouldn't get much of a ban for that, a little year, nothing more. I would even receive my purse as Margarito had his, no?
agree with mosley!!!
I remember you being pretty harsh on Pacquiao over the whole PEDgate issue, how can you justify such a small punishment for someone who attempted something far worse than what Pacquiao is accused of doing?Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
Shane Mosley used to be my favourite fighter, but more & more since the revelations of 2007 I feel alienated by him. You can't defend what Margarito tried to do, and he shouldn't. There's only one reason he is and that's because of what he got up to 'doing all he could to win'.
you could argue the point that marga didn't know his trainer did it, you could argue either way he should get a ban, but life time? no...
James toney got busted TWICE? using roids, TWICE... all him, and that prick still has a licence... fuck that!
Shane is a forgiving guy and you should not read too much into his statement.
I agree that Margarito should be able to get back his license but, maybe, only after 3 years of suspension. Or he can be reinstated after a year of suspension provided his first opponent be allowed the use of plaster in the gloves.
Mosley was my favorite fighter even through all the PEDs and silly suggestive statements he made about Pac. I dont' blind myself because I like a fighter. I am not going to agree with Mosley on this even one iota. This is just an attempt to not sound hypocritical. Of course Mosley says put the lifetime ban on the trainer. Just like Mosley wants everyone to believe it was Conte who duped him and was to blame for his PED usage. Yeah, lets just get everybody but the actual boxer. This is the silliest scapegoat any athlete can use. Ignorance. Lets not stop there what about blaming everyone else possible like my trainer, my nutritionist, my coach, my friend, or my roommate's boyfriend's cousin's brother-in-law's aunt's co-worker. Just don't say the actual person cheating was aware of any kind of cheating. It was a conspiracy. Mosley never had to fight Margarito with casted hands. Just like Mosley never had to fight Mosley on PEDs. Its easy to feel detached sympathetically when you weren't the one cheated against but in fact you were one of the cheaters at one point.
Margarito has not even apologized yet.
Mate, with all due respect, how much do you love Shane Mosley?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
You act as if he's Sugar Ray Robinson meets Jesus, rather than a confirmed PED cheat.
What we should read into his statement is that he's trying to avoid the obvious hypocrisy of him blaming someone who tried to cheat. It's all the fault of Javier Capetillo/Darryl Hudson/Victor Conte, never the fighter who actively took advantage of the benefits.
it's pretty obvious after reading a couple of the dude's posts, if you're Mexican you do no wrong in his eyesQuote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinI remember you being pretty harsh on Pacquiao over the whole PEDgate issue, how can you justify such a small punishment for someone who attempted something far worse than what Pacquiao is accused of doing?Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
Shane Mosley used to be my favourite fighter, but more & more since the revelations of 2007 I feel alienated by him. You can't defend what Margarito tried to do, and he shouldn't. There's only one reason he is and that's because of what he got up to 'doing all he could to win'.
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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut
In fact, Margarito hasn't even admitted guilt. He still maintains innocence. How can you back up a fighter who gets caught cheating in the worse way and even after a year refuses to admit he cheated?
One guy got an HBO documentary because of it and proclaimed innocence through the entire documentary and got the whole world feeling sorry for him. Who is to say Margarito won't be that guy 20 or 30 years from now.Quote:
Originally Posted by blegitQuote:
Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut
In fact, Margarito hasn't even admitted guilt. He still maintains innocence. How can you back up a fighter who gets caught cheating in the worse way and even after a year refuses to admit he cheated?
Dude you need to relax you seem very highly strung on these boards, calm down and do some yoga. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinMate, with all due respect, how much do you love Shane Mosley?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
You act as if he's Sugar Ray Robinson meets Jesus, rather than a confirmed PED cheat.
What we should read into his statement is that he's trying to avoid the obvious hypocrisy of him blaming someone who tried to cheat. It's all the fault of Javier Capetillo/Darryl Hudson/Victor Conte, never the fighter who actively took advantage of the benefits.
Not for nothing, but its easy to forgive someone when the found the plaster before you fought him. For the sake of argument, lets say they don't find it till after Mosleys been hit with a cinderblock and suffers a detached retina or something. I doubt he would be as forgiving or quick to call for cheato being relicensed.
As for cheato saying he didn't know... Its not just a little odd when you pulled off your glove at the end of a fight and needed a chisel to get your wraps off? Just sayin.
Daaaaaaaaaaang. That's harsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
Obviously Mosley isn't going to be an outspoken critic of cheaters, that's more or less a given.. But I think he would also have reason to want Margarito back in boxing in the event that he loses to Mayweather, if Tony gets another win or two then they could rematch and Shane can still retire with a nice payday and another win.
I don't remember writing that but dang, you're more brutal than I am, lol ;D.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZillaDaaaaaaaaaaang. That's harsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
Barry bonds gives margo-cheat the nod too.
I'ma get lambasted over this...because I have'nt read the article...nor do I give a shit about what Mosley says...even though I like Mosley & respect his abilities & blah blah blah...& will also admit to loathe Margarito...but NO...he should'nt get his license back.
No matter what he said...any fighter with that much experience knows what the hell is wrapped around their paws...& he knew.
Not saying that as a sore sport because he beat Cotto & I loved ole' Miggy...but what if he had done this to a lesser fighter...or one with a soft spot...or basically...we should'nt even be having this "what if" session about a fighter who illegally wrapped his hands & could have either killed or caused brain damage to one of the sports more loved figures...or even a lesser club fighter.
He knew what was up...he should deal with the ramifications.
If it were one of my favorites...he'd no longer be one of my favorites.
He's in the wrong...so take what hand you get dealt.
I hope he's banned for life. Imagine a Margarito/Pacquiao fight & the Pacman not getting up after a ruff & tumble ninth round bloodbath, the handwraps are found, Pac hits the hospital & rolls into a coma...would it be up for discussion?
A national hero who carries the hopes of his countrymen into the ring & rallies a nation...only to be brain battered by a dirty fighter/corner who months later shuck it off as no big deal & their guy should be allowed back in the ring?
Again...I ax ya...would it be up for discussion?
Cotto was lucky...he made it out with a battered ego & a face that looked like chopped liver...consider the alternatives...& then let's talk.
It's gut wrenching...so NO...ban him.
Nice attempt at deflection :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterDude you need to relax you seem very highly strung on these boards, calm down and do some yoga. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinMate, with all due respect, how much do you love Shane Mosley?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
You act as if he's Sugar Ray Robinson meets Jesus, rather than a confirmed PED cheat.
What we should read into his statement is that he's trying to avoid the obvious hypocrisy of him blaming someone who tried to cheat. It's all the fault of Javier Capetillo/Darryl Hudson/Victor Conte, never the fighter who actively took advantage of the benefits.
So anyway back to the question, how much do you love Shane Mosley, because the level of nuthugging you've been doing with him defies belief. Or do you believe he actually walks on water?
I am sure that is rhetorical question.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinNice attempt at deflection :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterDude you need to relax you seem very highly strung on these boards, calm down and do some yoga. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
So anyway back to the question, how much do you love Shane Mosley, because the level of nuthugging you've been doing with him defies belief. Or do you believe he actually walks on water?
"My Shane nuthugging defies belief", do not know where that comes from for you to make that comment.
I was not deflecting you comment, you really seem highly strung, try meditation then if yoga does not suit you. :)
Well, I'm not sure how you interpret if someone is highly strung over a message-board, but if it comforts you then I'm happy to let you know that I'm actually very content and calm with life :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI am sure that is rhetorical question.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinNice attempt at deflection :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
So anyway back to the question, how much do you love Shane Mosley, because the level of nuthugging you've been doing with him defies belief. Or do you believe he actually walks on water?
"My Shane nuthugging defies belief", do not know where that comes from for you to make that comment.
I was not deflecting you comment, you really seem highly strung, try meditation then if yoga does not suit you. :)
Oh and here's some examples of where it comes from
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-mosley-2.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...llerman-2.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-coming-2.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...roid-user.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
That's just a couple of examples dude. The way you go on about him reminds me of that Chuck Norris thing.Quote:
Shane will beat Floyd. That is why he is doing everything to avoid fighting him. Do not doubt Shane. He is a genuine ATG. Floyd is not.
Jaz thank you for taking the time to show that I am not nuthugging but a genuine fan who has been waiting a very long time for the Shane and Floyd match up.