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Has there been a KO where you thought it looked as fake as a $3 dollar bill?
One that comes to mind is Mike Tyson vs Bruce Seldon. I am not so sure about the 2nd and last KO of the fight. Bruce looked fine at the count and then shook his head and was out :confused:.
How about you? :)
I don't think it was, but Hatton's ko of Castillo looked suspicious. I think what happened was Castillo realized he didn't have a chance and just stayed down; especially given all the bullshit surrounding that fight I could understand if he just wanted to get out of there.
Papa Chavez vs Buck Smith...set up
I was high that night,I actually thought Seldon had a chance :bucktooth:
I didn't think about it that way but it was a bit too early to think someone doesn't have a chance, I mean, it was barely round 4. From the replay, it looks like a well placed body punch. I'll watch the fight again.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
It was a well-placed punch. I don't think Castillo dove and I'm sure he was badly hurt by the punch, I'm just saying I don't think his mind or his heart was really in the fight given what had happened in the lead-up and I wonder if that played a role in his decision to stay down.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinoI didn't think about it that way but it was a bit too early to think someone doesn't have a chance, I mean, it was barely round 4. From the replay, it looks like a well placed body punch. I'll watch the fight again.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Sure, a well-placed body punch, but sometimes you can sense when a guy really wants to get up and continue and when a guy is more like "To hell with this" like it seemed to have happened to Castillo.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHIt was a well-placed punch. I don't think Castillo dove and I'm sure he was badly hurt by the punch, I'm just saying I don't think his mind or his heart was really in the fight given what had happened in the lead-up and I wonder if that played a role in his decision to stay down.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinoI didn't think about it that way but it was a bit too early to think someone doesn't have a chance, I mean, it was barely round 4. From the replay, it looks like a well placed body punch. I'll watch the fight again.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
That's what I am saying. Not necessarily that that was the case, but that is what it looked like to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinoSure, a well-placed body punch, but sometimes you can sense when a guy really wants to get up and continue and when a guy is more like "To hell with this" like it seemed to have happened to Castillo.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHIt was a well-placed punch. I don't think Castillo dove and I'm sure he was badly hurt by the punch, I'm just saying I don't think his mind or his heart was really in the fight given what had happened in the lead-up and I wonder if that played a role in his decision to stay down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
Oscar De la Hoya vs. Bernard Hopkins
Oscar couldn't run any longer and didn't want to get his face busted up.
So he took a good body shot and found a soft spot on the canvas.
Then proceeded to pound his fist on the mat in frustration that he could not get to his feet. :rolleyes:
I am not sure about trying to protect his face, specially after fights against Mosley and Quartey where he went face forward to exchange punches with them and other opponents. But the whole pounding his fist on the mat made me think he was over-doing the whole act. Yes, the body punch was connected nicely, no doubt, but the pounding on the canvas? Iiiiiiiiii dunno.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Liston vs Ali "Phantom punch"
Moore vs Foreman
the guy who fought Antonia Demarco in his fight before Valero faked the ko,
how about Ruiz vs Tua?
;D
Am still certain to this day that Herol Graham was faking against Julian Jackson.
Anthony Bonsante faked he was knocked out and the ref called the fight over in the first round. This was versus Adonis Stevenson Aug 01, 2008 ;D
Stupid Bonsante :mad:
Video:
YouTube - Bonsante vs Stevenson KTFO or Possum?
2:50 marks the start.
i honestly think Buster could have got up against holyfield quite easily
Beyer vs Kessler. Beyer just sat on his ass, very calmly and aware of what was going on and decided, as the true champion he has always been, to stay sitting on his bum
;D Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Clifford Etienne against Mike Tyson. Old Cliff just couldn't wait to cash that big juicy cheque... :-\
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Originally Posted by CFHIt was a well-placed punch. I don't think Castillo dove and I'm sure he was badly hurt by the punch, I'm just saying I don't think his mind or his heart was really in the fight given what had happened in the lead-up and I wonder if that played a role in his decision to stay down.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinoI didn't think about it that way but it was a bit too early to think someone doesn't have a chance, I mean, it was barely round 4. From the replay, it looks like a well placed body punch. I'll watch the fight again.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
also lets not forget he wouldnt have been recieving any of his purse, it was all owed out to corrales and i think the commision for him coming in over weight for castillo - corrales 3
I don't think it was a hard shot to the body at all. Bernard connected with the palm of the glove and to me it did not look like there was alot of force behind it; Even Manny Steward was not totally convinced by it either. If you want to see a convincing body shot then watch Gatti ko Dorin and see his whole rib cage move...Now that is a real body shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinoI am not sure about trying to protect his face, specially after fights against Mosley and Quartey where he went face forward to exchange punches with them and other opponents. But the whole pounding his fist on the mat made me think he was over-doing the whole act. Yes, the body punch was connected nicely, no doubt, but the pounding on the canvas? Iiiiiiiiii dunno.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
This is a recent Tommy Morrison fight. His oppenant does such a horrible job of overselling the knockout.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TVsgPueEEk
horribly fakeQuote:
Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut
was this supposed to be some MMA fight or something? cause the fat fuck was flinging his knees up in the air
and either the people in that town love writing things in reverse or that video was flipped lol
Tyson vs McBride anyone. Tyson just sat on his ass waiting for someone to help him up.
I always say Ali Liston II. Not that the punch didn't land but the fact it looked as if he barely grazed his head.
I did always debate on the Oscar knockout but when you turn the volume up you can hear it clear as day and the only microphone in the ring was the one referee's backside. The pounding on the canvas thing I always thought was him being disappointed that he couldn't get up not because it hurt so much.
I believe the ODH body shot by Hopkins was a legitimate KO. Hopkins wanted a rematch and was carrying Oscar.
Yep the Black Rhino def took a dive 20 somethin seconds into that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oggie;D Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Clifford Etienne against Mike Tyson. Old Cliff just couldn't wait to cash that big juicy cheque... :-\
That was bullshit.
Dumb bastard is in prison for life now too.
Ha ha i remember this ass clown !! This turd's stupid actions almost made it worth not seeing the rest of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ***********
Geez, that really looked like a fake punch... That's the one that came to mind for me. It that the one where he got hit ontop of the head by a wild hook?Quote:
Originally Posted by Oggie;D Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Clifford Etienne against Mike Tyson. Old Cliff just couldn't wait to cash that big juicy cheque... :-\
Do people really believe Hatton KO Castillo was fake? BoxRec reported he broke 4 ribs with that shot. Castillo's who body rippled with that shot. Hell, I thought it was top 5 KO of that year.
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Originally Posted by ***********
What a cock. Was he trying to do an undertaker WWE thing? What a tosser!
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Originally Posted by CFH
to true saddo tradition shall we all just say that every single ricky hatton knockout has indeed been due to match fixing
ricky is infact a greengrocer from darlington who is about as handy with a pair of gloves than zelenoff is!!!
This place used to have more Hatton fans than any other site I have ever seen, the fanboyism was near that of Pacquiao today, they just all disappeared on Dec. 9, 2007 for some reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by CFH
to true saddo tradition shall we all just say that every single ricky hatton knockout has indeed been due to match fixing
ricky is infact a greengrocer from darlington who is about as handy with a pair of gloves than zelenoff is!!!
No one said Castillo took a dive, only that it looked like he might have decided not to get back up after getting dropped. He wasn't getting paid, after that shot he probably knew he couldn't win, so maybe he just stayed down. I'm not sure that is what happened, but plenty of people said they felt that was the case after the fight.
People who have never fought before cannot understand how truely devastating a perfectly place body punch can be. I think it is really something you need to have experienced.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHThis place used to have more Hatton fans than any other site I have ever seen, the fanboyism was near that of Pacquiao today, they just all disappeared on Dec. 9, 2007 for some reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by CFH
to true saddo tradition shall we all just say that every single ricky hatton knockout has indeed been due to match fixing
ricky is infact a greengrocer from darlington who is about as handy with a pair of gloves than zelenoff is!!!
No one said Castillo took a dive, only that it looked like he might have decided not to get back up after getting dropped. He wasn't getting paid, after that shot he probably knew he couldn't win, so maybe he just stayed down. I'm not sure that is what happened, but plenty of people said they felt that was the case after the fight.
I've been hit hard in the liver before and it is a debilitating feeling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance UppercutPeople who have never fought before cannot understand how truely devastating a perfectly place body punch can be. I think it is really something you need to have experienced.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHThis place used to have more Hatton fans than any other site I have ever seen, the fanboyism was near that of Pacquiao today, they just all disappeared on Dec. 9, 2007 for some reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
No one said Castillo took a dive, only that it looked like he might have decided not to get back up after getting dropped. He wasn't getting paid, after that shot he probably knew he couldn't win, so maybe he just stayed down. I'm not sure that is what happened, but plenty of people said they felt that was the case after the fight.
All I've been talking about in this thread is how the Castillo KO might have appeared, I'm not saying I think he took a dive or that he quit necessarily, onlt that he appeared to know he was beaten and that it looked like he might have stayed down as a result. It is something I have heard before and I can understand why some people might feel that way. Hatton landed a series of bodyshots in the fourth round, I'm sure Castillo was in a bad way.
edit: After watching the final round again, I do think it was a legitimate knockout, but I remember think it suspicious at the time.
I always thought that about the Seldon fight. Mike hit him on the top of the head. I can buy that it knocked him down, but Seldon was up on his feet and all smiles after the ten-count. I've never seen a guy happier after a loss. He was hanging on Mike like they were best friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
When De La Hoya beat Vargas I didn't see why that left hook put him down. It was the original angle, though. It almost looked like a jab and Vargas flopped over like a fish. When I saw it from a different angle I saw how well that punch connected. I was surprised Vargas got up.
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by gest12645
Either you're being sarcastic or you're blind cause that shot landed and it was real.
Moorer to this day calls it a lucky shot.
The one that makes me laugh the most is Castro vs. Herrera II
Castro clearly misses with the bodyshot but Herrera still goes down. ;D
In his book Atlas said that shot was so hard it split Moorer's mouth guard and broke one of his teeth.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMickReally?Quote:
Originally Posted by gest12645
Either you're being sarcastic or you're blind cause that shot landed and it was real.
Moorer to this day calls it a lucky shot.
IF you watch, you can see dark red blood fill up in Moorer's mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHIn his book Atlas said that shot was so hard it split Moorer's mouth guard and broke one of his teeth.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMickReally?Quote:
Originally Posted by gest12645
Either you're being sarcastic or you're blind cause that shot landed and it was real.
Moorer to this day calls it a lucky shot.
Foreman can punch, with Moorer weak chin and not wanting to lose to the old man says great come from behind legitimate KO. Hate Moorer for losing that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance UppercutIF you watch, you can see dark red blood fill up in Moorer's mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHIn his book Atlas said that shot was so hard it split Moorer's mouth guard and broke one of his teeth.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Amazing Power.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHIn his book Atlas said that shot was so hard it split Moorer's mouth guard and broke one of his teeth.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMickReally?Quote:
Originally Posted by gest12645
Either you're being sarcastic or you're blind cause that shot landed and it was real.
Moorer to this day calls it a lucky shot.
I have always been in Awe of Foreman. Not just his power but his no nonsense attitude and sometimes underrated boxing skill. The power though is not normal, human beings shouldn't be able to produce the power he did!!