Should states stop licensing Roy Jones if (when) he loses?
I've said it 1000 times if I said it once. And I hate to have to suggest this because I truly believe that Roy Jones was the Muhammad Ali of my generation when he was in his prime. No one else in our generation displayed such a combination of power, speed, and flashiness...in and out of the ring.
That being said this has got to stop. I've seen alot of boxers get the message after they lose 2 or 3 fights. Even De la hoya got the message...finally. But it doesn't seem to be sinking in with Roy. 4 out of his 5 REAL losses he got whalloped. Especially Joe Calzaghe. Roy was beaten up all night that night. And I figured his last fight he would have gotten the message. I never thought someone like Roy could be beaten inside of 1 round. And now he's moving onto Hopkins? If he keeps going down this road Roy is really going to get himself hurt. How long before the higher ups here make him stop? Hopkins will beat him and I'm sure he'll schedule another fight after that. Let me know what you think.
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15rounder
I've said it 1000 times if I said it once. And I hate to have to suggest this because I truly believe that Roy Jones was the Muhammad Ali of my generation when he was in his prime. No one else in our generation displayed such a combination of power, speed, and flashiness...in and out of the ring.
That being said this has got to stop. I've seen alot of boxers get the message after they lose 2 or 3 fights. Even De la hoya got the message...finally. But it doesn't seem to be sinking in with Roy. 4 out of his 5 REAL losses he got whalloped. Especially Joe Calzaghe. Roy was beaten up all night that night. And I figured his last fight he would have gotten the message. I never thought someone like Roy could be beaten inside of 1 round. And now he's moving onto Hopkins? If he keeps going down this road Roy is really going to get himself hurt. How long before the higher ups here make him stop? Hopkins will beat him and I'm sure he'll schedule another fight after that. Let me know what you think.
I'm not going to disagree that Roy needs to seriously consider hanging up the gloves -- and I hate that he's feeding B-Hop's ego by giving him the fight that he's always wanted (against a defenseless Roy Jones Jr.). That being said I think the real tragedy here isn't that RJJ is still fighting but it's that he has to keep fighting.
By all accounts Roy isn't exactly the most financially stable boxer in the world -- having sunk quite a bit of money into his record label (raise your hand if you bout the RJJ debut rap cd because I know I did). The worst part about hsi fight with B-Hop if you believe Thomas Hauser (and why wouldn't you) is that RJJ might not end up making much of anything (if anything at all) on the fight.
Here's hoping that we don't see the RJJ story end in tragedy because during his height he was easily my favorite fighter and even today it's tough to not be excited by him simply because he still looks like Roy Jones Jr. even if he isn't Roy Jones Jr. anymore.
Re: Should states stop licensing Roy Jones if (when) he loses?
No unless the fighter is unfit to box he should carry on. If Holyfield can get a license then Roy should be able to get one too.
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Not a bad point but has Holyfield ever been blasted in one round?
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I'm still hoping that somehow RJJ beats hopkins... I just think that would be so hilarious... I don't dislike or like either fighter..> I just think the commentating afterwards would be priceless... RJJ would for sure come out with another "hit" single...lol
Re: Should states stop licensing Roy Jones if (when) he loses?
Hell no, he still has plenty enough left to get beat by a couple more people. Maybe a montell griffin showdown again. Can't be any worse than this b-hop garbage. I'll be pullin for an omar shieka rematch as well.
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Not at all, he has a right to box and make any money that comes his way. If he scrambles his brains then that's for him to decide.
Of course we as the general public can choose not to watch. I think the last Holyfield fight I watched was vs. Larry Donald in 2004 and the last RJJ fight I seen was Calzaghe.
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Definitely no. He shouldn't be deprived a source of livelihood. But he should be fighting low caliber boxers, anyone way lower than B-Hop.
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I think if Roy is KO'd, he should at the very least be denied his license in the States, similar to how New York banned Evander from fighting anymore, and Evander has fought fewer pro fights and his KO losses were not nearly as brutal. Yes, Roy has a right to make a living, but states have a right to deny someone as well. I mean do you really want to see Roy like this again:
http://www.nowboxing.com/wp-content/...jr-cut-eye.jpg
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15rounder
Not a bad point but has Holyfield ever been blasted in one round?
I think Amir Khan should have his license taken away too. There is just no excuse for losing in a round.
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jones put up a decent showing against Hopkins. It sure won't be another 1 round stoppage.
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The truth of the matter is HBO has no interest in showing RJJ fight anymore. GBP is putting on a PPV with will most likely flop and lose GBP a lot of money, RJJ will walk away with maybe enough money to buy a new pair of shoes because of his contract with Hopkins/GBP. After that IF he loses that fight there will be very little willingness by Vs., Telemundo or ESPN2 to put him on TV. Once the TV options are gone he will have no real value to even B level opposition. So to answer the original question, the states have no need to suspend his license, he will be blackballed anyway. If I was ESPN2 though I would try to pick him up as an announcer.
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He'd need to have another bad KO before even some body like NY got round to banning him. The US bodies will kind of turn a blind eye to the last one because it happened in Australia.
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Hell no, he still has plenty enough left to get beat by a couple more people. Maybe a montell griffin showdown again. Can't be any worse than this b-hop garbage. I'll be pullin for an omar shieka rematch as well.
Hell Fukking yeah. I'm also waiting for a Benn-Jones and Eubank-Jones fight!
Fuk it they might be in their 40s now but it can still be good.;D
Re: Should states stop licensing Roy Jones if (when) he loses?
No they shouldnt
If he was getting hammered from pillar to post every other week then sure. But he is still capable of defending himself and competing inside a boxing ring.
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To be fair to Roy, I dont think he's in THAT big of trouble against B-Hop. He got caught by a perfect punch from Green and went down. Hopkins is not a big puncher, and doesn't have that big 1-punch power like Green.
That being said, I still agree with you that Roy needs to hang them up bad. Its like Leonard, Robinson, Ali, ect at the end of their careers. They relied so much on reflexes and speed. Once they begin to dull, its a scary situation.
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Beanflicker
To be fair to Roy, I dont think he's in THAT big of trouble against B-Hop. He got caught by a perfect punch from Green and went down. Hopkins is not a big puncher, and doesn't have that big 1-punch power like Green.
That being said, I still agree with you that Roy needs to hang them up bad. Its like Leonard, Robinson, Ali, ect at the end of their careers. They relied so much on reflexes and speed. Once they begin to dull, its a scary situation.
Nobodys ever in serious danger with hopkins are they
sure he`ll get taken to school for 12rounds and made to look rather silly and no doubt bernard will claim this now somehow makes him the greatest fighter of the 90s!
As fans of roy jones we all want him to stop. But lets take into account here he has a family and children to support and the second he does hang those gloves up he`ll never make that kind of money again!!
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Beanflicker
To be fair to Roy, I dont think he's in THAT big of trouble against B-Hop. He got caught by a perfect punch from Green and went down. Hopkins is not a big puncher, and doesn't have that big 1-punch power like Green.
That being said, I still agree with you that Roy needs to hang them up bad. Its like Leonard, Robinson, Ali, ect at the end of their careers. They relied so much on reflexes and speed. Once they begin to dull, its a scary situation.
Nobodys ever in serious danger with hopkins are they
sure he`ll get taken to school for 12rounds and made to look rather silly and no doubt bernard will claim this now somehow makes him the greatest fighter of the 90s!
As fans of roy jones we all want him to stop. But lets take into account here he has a family and children to support and the second he does hang those gloves up he`ll never make that kind of money again!!
Hopkins does a worse job on fighters than anyone. He never blasts them out, he slowly methodically beats them till they've got nothing left. Echols, Trinidad, Pavlik & Taylor are all fighters who've looked different men after he's through with them. I worry more that Hopkins will be vindictive & slowly break all that is left of Roy before KOing him flat in the late rounds.
In answer to the question, no he probably shouldn't, but I wish they would. It's sad to see him like this.
