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The winner of Pryce-Sinclair should be a strong favourite. Who wins this one though?
Sinclair is a vet, but coming off a couple of wins, is a serious puncher (had Daniel Santos heavily on the floor, albeit 100 years ago), has a win over Pryce (albeit 50 years ago).
I want to back Sinclair because he's bigger odds. Save me money.
Thoughts?
Prince Aaron v George Hillyard
Bradley Price v Neil Sinclair
Danny Butler v Brett Flourney
Steve O Meara v Martin Concepcion
Any outsiders worth a mention? I think Hillyard might take Aaron in this format.
Prince Aaron v George Hillyard - Aaron unamious
Bradley Price v Neil Sinclair - Sinclair split
Danny Butler v Brett Flourney - butler split
Steve O Meara v Martin Concepcion- o`meara unanimous
Prince Aaron v Neil Sinclair - Sinclair unanimous
Danny Butler v Steve O`meara - Butler TKO rd2
Neil Sinclair v Danny Butler - Danny Butler split
Well if we look at who's in the tournament, how they are looking form wise and their prices.
Steve O Meara - Just looking in Boxing News this morning and in their poll the voters have him a 33% winner. Now I think they have just taken a look at his record and just voted on the fact he is unbeaten and not really taken any note of his opposition. He has only beaten 2 fighters who have more wins than losses and neither had a good record. He also seems to lack any real power in his shots and the Bookmakers don't see him as a threat with Ladbrokes offering a best price of 7/1. My opinion small outside chance at best.
Bradley Pryce - Again looking at Boxing news they have him second in the poll with 29%. For me this is someone with a genuine chance, but it's less than a year since his crushing defeat to Matthew Hall and he has only had one fight since against more of a middleweight (but lacking in power) Journeyman Michael Monaghan. To be fair though he won every round bar one which was scored level. The Bookies Favourite and if you go with Skybet you can get a very good 3/1. I think he has a very good chance, especially if he wins his first fight!
George Hillyard - 14% of the votes in Boxing News, don't know how he's got so many votes as I give him next to no chance. Fair enough he is naturally bigger than most in the tournament, but he lacks quality when compared to some of the others tonight. I don't see him beating Prince Arron in his first fight although he does clearly have the better power in the matchup. The Bookies agree with me on his chances of winning though and 3 of them including Ladbrokes have him at 25/1.
Neil Sinclair - 8% of the votes in BN. Now if he was in his 20's i think this would be his night without doubt. He was a real good boxer/puncher but since stopping Pryce in 8 back in 2003 has not really been the same fighter. He has been stopped 5 times in his 7 losses and is 36 years old now. If he manages to get by Pryce though I see him winning. Only thing is Pryce is a lot more mature now than when he was beaten by Sinclair and I would have to go Pryce to win the rematch. Bookies have Sinclair second favourite and BET365 have the best price of 4/1.
Martin Concepcion - 5% of the votes in BN and my value for money bet. Yes he is very chinny at times but he can also punch. He faces unbeaten but as already mentioned very untested Steve O'Meara in his opener and I think his experience against the likes of Pryce and Alfonso Gomez will serve him very well in that fight. Not to mention the fact that he KO'd then unbeaten Matthew Hall in round 1 back in 2007. I'm not by any stretch saying he will win but with BWIN.com offering 13/1 I amy be tempted to havin a fiver on him.
Danny Butler - another with 5% of the votes in BN. Of course he has the size as he is a MW and he also may have an advantage as he has already fought in the MW Prizefighter so this is nothing new to him. Only thing is he is not in great form coming off 2 straight defeats although it has to be mentioned that he fought Darren Barker on 2 days notice after only fighting Darren McDermott 2 weeks earlier. I see him gettin past Brett Flournoy but not getting any further and once again losing out in the semis. 3rd favourite with the bookies though with quite a few including PaddyPower offering 6/1.
Brett Flournoy - 3% BN votes. Now I have to be honest and say I know nothing of this lad but I can see he is undefeated but very very inactive. In fact he has not fought properly since 2008 and though he was having a fight in October it was called a N.C. due to the medics having to leave ringside to see to another fighter who had collapsed in the dressing room. Now looking at his weights he seems small for LMW although he is 5'10. I don't, looking at his record though see him getting by Butler. I could be way out here but I know where my money will go in this fight. Boylesports and a few other have him 14/1 to win the whole tournament.
Prince Arron - Again 3% of BN votes. At only 22 it's suprising to see that this young amn has been in with people like John Duddy and Anthony Small already and though he lost to both he can only learn from that kind of experience. Hehas been quite active too since turning pro in 2006 but I don't see him beating Concepcion, Pryce or Sinclair although I think he beats Hillyard in his opener. Bwin.com have him 13/2
Would like Sinclair to win this, only for the fact we bumped into him after a Hatton fight in Manchester many moons ago, ended up on the piss with him and a couple of his buddies, was a cracking night and a top bloke to boot.
Got to really favour Pryce to win or Sinclair as my 2nd pick.
rjj tszyu, did you do that write up? Good stuff :cool:
I can't have Conception (understand the 13/1 for those that do fancy him though). I think O'Meara, even though he lacks power and has fought nobody, is a tidy enough boxer to get a result in the opener.
Annoys me when people keep saying sinclairs the experienced hand in this thing
pryce has been in with olusegun, jennings, small, hall, bami, mcdonagh
That guys been in and around the main british pictures for years now
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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Sinclair battered Pryce a few years back. He fought Daniel Santos for the WBO title 10 years ago.
im not saying pryce is a better fighterQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Sinclair battered Pryce a few years back. He fought Daniel Santos for the WBO title 10 years ago.
but while sinclair has been fighting up and coming prospects over 6rounds, pryce has been in 10/12 round wars with good solid fighters.
I can promise you a hell of a lot of fight fans know the name bradley pryce over neil sinclair
Younger ones, yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerim not saying pryce is a better fighterQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Sinclair battered Pryce a few years back. He fought Daniel Santos for the WBO title 10 years ago.
but while sinclair has been fighting up and coming prospects over 6rounds, pryce has been in 10/12 round wars with good solid fighters.
I can promise you a hell of a lot of fight fans know the name bradley pryce over neil sinclair
But it's obvious people would refer to Sinclair as the experienced one, considering he's fought for a "world" title, was Brit champ for donkeys and has stopped the tournament favourite Pryce ;)
Ive got sinclair to win the fight, ive no qualms over saying i believe him to be the better fighterQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterYounger ones, yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerim not saying pryce is a better fighterQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
but while sinclair has been fighting up and coming prospects over 6rounds, pryce has been in 10/12 round wars with good solid fighters.
I can promise you a hell of a lot of fight fans know the name bradley pryce over neil sinclair
But it's obvious people would refer to Sinclair as the experienced one, considering he's fought for a "world" title, was Brit champ for donkeys and has stopped the tournament favourite Pryce ;)
But bradley pryce is the bigger name who over the few years has been in the bigger fights against the better fighters
Sinclair has fought for a world title, how the fuck has he not been in bigger fights than Pryce?Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerIve got sinclair to win the fight, ive no qualms over saying i believe him to be the better fighterQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterYounger ones, yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
But it's obvious people would refer to Sinclair as the experienced one, considering he's fought for a "world" title, was Brit champ for donkeys and has stopped the tournament favourite Pryce ;)
But bradley pryce is the bigger name who over the few years has been in the bigger fights against the better fighters
Hillyard is the one who might suprise a few.
Pryce is the bigger name if you only started watching boxing in 2005 & saw him coat-tailing Calzaghe & Maccarinelli.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerIve got sinclair to win the fight, ive no qualms over saying i believe him to be the better fighterQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterYounger ones, yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
But it's obvious people would refer to Sinclair as the experienced one, considering he's fought for a "world" title, was Brit champ for donkeys and has stopped the tournament favourite Pryce ;)
But bradley pryce is the bigger name who over the few years has been in the bigger fights against the better fighters
I think O'Meara is a good outside shot, granted his opposition isn't that good at present, but he's got serious skills. He's also sparred with genuine world-class P4P fighters like Timothy Bradley, Shane Mosley & Floyd Mayweather. He probably got mugged off by the lot of them, but that experience still gives him something that all the others bar Pryce & Sinclair to my knowledge lack. I just wonder if it's too quick a step-up.
I personally think Pryce is shot now & I think Sinclair will spark him. I'd probably favour Sinclair to win, just on the experience. We've seen in Prizefighter recently that those who've fought at the best level, (Harrison, Rees) generally find a way to win.
Although I'm a little disenchanted with the whole Prizefighter thing after the LWW one, where there were no end of shit decisions even if the right man won in the end.
How you doing Jaz you ok mate?Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinPryce is the bigger name if you only started watching boxing in 2005 & saw him coat-tailing Calzaghe & Maccarinelli.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerIve got sinclair to win the fight, ive no qualms over saying i believe him to be the better fighterQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
But bradley pryce is the bigger name who over the few years has been in the bigger fights against the better fighters
I think O'Meara is a good outside shot, granted his opposition isn't that good at present, but he's got serious skills. He's also sparred with genuine world-class P4P fighters like Timothy Bradley, Shane Mosley & Floyd Mayweather. He probably got mugged off by the lot of them, but that experience still gives him something that all the others bar Pryce & Sinclair to my knowledge lack. I just wonder if it's too quick a step-up.
I personally think Pryce is shot now & I think Sinclair will spark him. I'd probably favour Sinclair to win, just on the experience. We've seen in Prizefighter recently that those who've fought at the best level, (Harrison, Rees) generally find a way to win.
Although I'm a little disenchanted with the whole Prizefighter thing after the LWW one, where there were no end of shit decisions even if the right man won in the end.
I like the look of O'Meara aswell, like you say quite early in his career, I was reading his experience of sparring Mayweather before the Marquez fight it was a good read.
Yeah, I'm good Skel, having massive power cuts in my block so not on as much.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983How you doing Jaz you ok mate?Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinPryce is the bigger name if you only started watching boxing in 2005 & saw him coat-tailing Calzaghe & Maccarinelli.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
I think O'Meara is a good outside shot, granted his opposition isn't that good at present, but he's got serious skills. He's also sparred with genuine world-class P4P fighters like Timothy Bradley, Shane Mosley & Floyd Mayweather. He probably got mugged off by the lot of them, but that experience still gives him something that all the others bar Pryce & Sinclair to my knowledge lack. I just wonder if it's too quick a step-up.
I personally think Pryce is shot now & I think Sinclair will spark him. I'd probably favour Sinclair to win, just on the experience. We've seen in Prizefighter recently that those who've fought at the best level, (Harrison, Rees) generally find a way to win.
Although I'm a little disenchanted with the whole Prizefighter thing after the LWW one, where there were no end of shit decisions even if the right man won in the end.
I like the look of O'Meara aswell, like you say quite early in his career, I was reading his experience of sparring Mayweather before the Marquez fight it was a good read.
Yeah, that's the thing, he may be just a bit too green right now for it, but if he's learnt from sparring quality fighters than he could be in for a good night. He's also got a good trainer in McDonnell who's able to get him some good opportunities, hence how (from what I've heard down the gym) that he sparred with Bradley for the Holt fight & Mosley in Philly.
Yeah I wrote it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Just watched all the Quarters and I see a Pryce Vs O' Meara final now. O Meara really impressed me, didn't think he was capable of that. In fact I think he may take it now as i think Pryce wins his semi but he seemed to use a lot in his quarter!
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Originally Posted by rjj tszyuYeah I wrote it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Just watched all the Quarters and I see a Pryce Vs O' Meara final now. O Meara really impressed me, didn't think he was capable of that. In fact I think he may take it now as i think Pryce wins his semi but he seemed to use a lot in his quarter!
Prince Arron wtf he has improved loads, I remember him getting destroyed bby Small a couple of years ago , i suppose he is only young.
Pryce hasn't got a clue here
Pryce is blowing it.
Ok it's official, I know nothing lol.
Well done Prince Arron. Really deserved it tonight and surprised me no end. That jab is one of the best i've ever seen at domestic level!