How much do you REALLY know about boxing???

I am just wondering how some people get their information on boxing....

I mean how long have you been watching the sport, how many fights have you really seen be it in person or video, have you ever really been in a gym other then a few times hitting the bag...Do you actually know any fighters and that does not mean third hand because you know a guy who knows a guy.....Can you actually get into a debate on a fighters career without having to look at boxrec to see if they won or lost a fight?....

Seriously though I am wondering because it seems so many people these days actually know little about boxing itself other then what they get off the internet yet they will try to debate things as if they know it first hand...

EG- When someone says Fighter A wants X amount of dollars to face Fighter B and a ring size of 16X16...But Fighter B states they wont fight in a ring less then 20X20..

Where do you get your info from?...Website, ESPN, chatroom, Reliable news source like a newspaper or do you get it from Forums and gossip columns

It what you are saying based on REAL boxing knowledge or all second hand info

It's a combo for me because I don't know everything. I'm not deeply ensconced in boxing, but what I know I know from personal experience, watching on TV, places like Saddo's.

I don't discount secondhand info unless I find out the person writing/saying it is full of it. Because there's a wealth of people who know more than me and I'm always ready to learn something new. I can say who beat who based on what I actually know for about a handful of fighters, maybe 20-30 or so, but I'm no encyclopedia. I'm more recently getting into the lighter weights.

I've met a bunch of fighters in person. Tommy & Ronald Hearns, Bernard Hopkins, Mary Jo Sanders, and other minor local fighters. But I'm in a place where I'm comfortably standing on my own opinion based on what I've taken in from where ever I've gotten it and I can hold my own in most conversations/debates. But I'll always acknowledge when someone knows more than me.

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It's a combo for me because I don't know everything. I'm not deeply ensconced in boxing, but what I know I know from personal experience, watching on TV, places like Saddo's.

I don't discount secondhand info unless I find out the person writing/saying it is full of it. Because there's a wealth of people who know more than me and I'm always ready to learn something new. I can say who beat who based on what I actually know for about a handful of fighters, maybe 20-30 or so, but I'm no encyclopedia. I'm more recently getting into the lighter weights.

I've met a bunch of fighters in person. Tommy & Ronald Hearns, Bernard Hopkins, Mary Jo Sanders, and other minor local fighters. But I'm in a place where I'm comfortably standing on my own opinion based on what I've taken in from where ever I've gotten it and I can hold my own in most conversations/debates. But I'll always acknowledge when someone knows more than me.

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Thanks for the honest reply...Like I said I am not trying to call anyone out or make anyone look foolish, just curious is all..

I mean speaking for myself and probably the older posters here like Scrap Andre etc...We started as fans in this sport before the internet...Either you knew someone in the or around the sport, you have been to the fights, watched then Closed circuit (Anyone from the East Coast in the US remember the Felt Forum) got news from ABC wide world of sports or Read Ring Magazine when it actually was the Bible of Boxing...

Well, on the criteria of the opening post i know next to nothing.

I don't know any fighters personally (a couple are friends of friends). I've been in a gym once.
But in terms of using Boxrec etc to check facts I don't usually need to. I have a pretty crazy memory and can recall a lot of fighters records perfectly. Stats and records etc I know plenty.

Pretty much everything I know is self taught, and until I got into this place properly last year I never really had the chance to talk boxing with people.

Non-boxing fans would probably consider me a boxing expert but compared to a lot of people i'm a mere amateur.

I've been into boxing since I was about 7 (1992) but until the last couple of years aside from watching the fights I could and buying Boxing Monthly I didn't really seek it out much.

I watched my 1st Fight 60 years ago, Trained 38 champs. Know most people in the Game. Unfortunatly still know Fuck All.

I wasn't even born when yet when the internet was invented. So obviously I know knowing. :p

Hmm, my first post kind of made it look like I barely even like the sport ;D

Just to be clear - I love the sport. Watching boxing is my favourite thing in the world to do and I spend a lot of my spare time doing it.

In terms of fights i've watched I have no idea, but its in the thousands.

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I wasn't even born when yet when the internet was invented. So obviously I know knowing. :p

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Not true..Like I said this isn't something that I am trying to insinuate...I am not saying that if you get your info from the internet you know nothing,,,Just wondering how people learn their info....

I mean if you learn things from the posters here it is a big difference then learning stuff from lets say ESB or Hennessey

What I dont know, I ask by phone someone that does. You want to see my Phone Bill ;D

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Originally Posted by Scrap

I watched my 1st Fight 60 years ago, Trained 38 champs. Know most people in the Game. Unfortunatly still know Fuck All.

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Ah hell Scrap these days even when we think we know something they go and change it all up before Dinner anyhow :-\....

Any day I am expecting Susan Lucci to enter the sport and ESPN to flash something on a ticker about a purse bid to be revealed on the afternoons episode of All My Children

The truth is I really don't know much. I know my way around a ring, and I know my way around a gym, but as far as the professional side of things go, when I showed up here at Saddos I didn't even know who Pac was, barely who Mayweather was, and certainly less about near everyone else in the sport.

But I could fight, and I loved it.

Coming to Saddos and other online forums has been my education in learning the sport. I learn the most from the fans. The people who have favorite fighters, who know it's history, or are maybe just weekend fans like so myself too and many are. I learn from sports writers, historians, officials, coaches trainers online, but overall, the most I learn regarding boxing I learn from the fans. The ones with both little and lots of knowledge. I learn not just knowledge, but what makes them tick. That I believe is important to know, especially for anyone who might be considering it for a living long term.

So all in all, in learning to train and fight...I learn most of that in the gym. But learning the sport, how it works, the fighters, the history, divisions, who's who and what's what, and to hear it's heart beat...that I get from places just like Saddos here, and the fans who are on the boards sharing and often wearing their hearts on their sleeves..

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

I am just wondering how some people get their information on boxing....

I mean how long have you been watching the sport, how many fights have you really seen be it in person or video, have you ever really been in a gym other then a few times hitting the bag...Do you actually know any fighters and that does not mean third hand because you know a guy who knows a guy.....Can you actually get into a debate on a fighters career without having to look at boxrec to see if they won or lost a fight?....

Seriously though I am wondering because it seems so many people these days actually know little about boxing itself other then what they get off the internet yet they will try to debate things as if they know it first hand...

EG- When someone says Fighter A wants X amount of dollars to face Fighter B and a ring size of 16X16...But Fighter B states they wont fight in a ring less then 20X20..

Where do you get your info from?...Website, ESPN, chatroom, Reliable news source like a newspaper or do you get it from Forums and gossip columns

It what you are saying based on REAL boxing knowledge or all second hand info

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I've been watching boxing for atleast a decade, i haven't been to any fights yet although im planning too. I got my info from my Grandfather mostly, because he was a boxer and his brother was also a talented boxer, his brother beat an Olympic gold medalist Terry Spinks. And also the internet helps obviously.

I've had a few Amateur fights and i enjoyed it, but i quit because i have a family now. I'd like to think i know quite a bit about boxing, i know mostly about the well known fighters.

But for the last year and a half, i've really been brushing up on some of the underrated fighters. Like Orlando Canizales, and i've also now seen alot of closet classic fights like Kelvin Seabrooks vs Orlando Canizales, Caveman Lee vs John LoCiero, ETC.

Lately i've been busy which is why i haven't been coming on here as much, so im behind on current boxing. But i still find time to watch some closet classic fights i haven't seen, mostly thanks to great contributers on youtube.

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I watched my 1st Fight 60 years ago, Trained 38 champs. Know most people in the Game. Unfortunatly still know Fuck All.

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Ah hell Scrap these days even when we think we know something they go and change it all up before Dinner anyhow :-\....

Any day I am expecting Susan Lucci to enter the sport and ESPN to flash something on a ticker about a purse bid to be revealed on the afternoons episode of All My Children

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I'll buy that PPV.

Everyone in boxing uses the internet these days - boxers, trainers, managers, promoters the lot.

As for fans knowledge - it has nothing to do with being in a gym, knowing fighters or being involved with people in the trade.

You don't have to experience being punched in the face to form an opinion. Some fighters/trainers are terrible fight pickers.

Anyone can research and become an expert on the history of boxing. No different to taking an interest in anything.

been following boxing since around 85 - got most of my info back then from the Ring (which I have just stopped buying after 25 years as its too far behind these days and internet is killing it)

I admit I only follow the main guys and two guys who have lost 12 fights between them, and who i know won't be players on world scene, may put on a decent scrap on Friday night fights but I can't get excited about it if youy get my drift

I have a good library of fights going back to late 70s but not seen many fights before then - apart from the classics we all have

If big fights are shown over here I watch but difficult to see some guys in UK eg I've never seen Paul Williams, Edwin Valero etc only on youtube clips.

I been to a dozen or so fights over here eg Benn, Eubank , Hamed, Khan - and made the Vegas trip twice for Lewis Tua and Hatton PBF.

But there's a hell of a lot I don't know and if someone knows more than me - then I don't care !;)

eg there's some guy called Ali or something like that who sounded like a bit of a big deal in his time - never saw him fight...:-\

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Everyone in boxing uses the internet these days - boxers, trainers, managers, promoters the lot.

As for fans knowledge - it has nothing to do with being in a gym, knowing fighters or being involved with people in the trade.

You don't have to experience being punched in the face to form an opinion. Some fighters/trainers are terrible fight pickers.

Anyone can research and become an expert on the history of boxing. No different to taking an interest in anything.

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Has nothing to do with history of boxing I mean you can read a book for that..

I actually own a boxing Encyclopedia...
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Has nothing to do with being hit...More or less had to do with how do you get your knowledge..

EG- I mean can someone carry a conversation without looking up replies on Boxrec? That type of thing

There is a difference between looking things up and studying them be it internet or elsewhere or fact checking and having to take time out to look up a reply on a question

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Everyone in boxing uses the internet these days - boxers, trainers, managers, promoters the lot.

As for fans knowledge - it has nothing to do with being in a gym, knowing fighters or being involved with people in the trade.

You don't have to experience being punched in the face to form an opinion. Some fighters/trainers are terrible fight pickers.

Anyone can research and become an expert on the history of boxing. No different to taking an interest in anything.

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Has nothing to do with history of boxing I mean you can read a book for that..

I actually own a boxing Encyclopedia...
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Has nothing to do with being hit...More or less had to do with how do you get your knowledge..

EG- I mean can someone carry a conversation without looking up replies on Boxrec? That type of thing

There is a difference between looking things up and studying them be it internet or elsewhere or fact checking and having to take time out to look up a reply on a question

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Oh right. But people arguing on the internet would be foolish to not use boxrec and the like. If you state incorrect things you look like a chump. A couple of seconds clicking makes you look like a genius ;)

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...cons/icon1.gif Re: How much do you REALLY know about boxing???
As far as physical aspect and performing the craft...next to nothing.Have stepped into a professionally run gym twice in my entire life.Both in Va.Beach.Have stepped into the ring both times and just slapped boxed around.Never officially spared,never received instruction and frankly never took advantage of vast surroundings to learn and soak up the knowledge of the ones who's company I was in at the time......my physical participation to any thing "boxing" related consist of home implimentation....A heavy bag at work...one at home and gloves we put on to knock around in the backyard,not school yard right hand happy crap....but def not serious studied proper footwork etc aspects.More or less I know what I am and I know what I am not...and thats a professional prize fighter,besides I'm too old and fat for that now HA.Mainly work the bag alot for cardio,flexibility,work many muscles that may go dormant and it is a GREAT stress relief,done properly.

As far as an observer and 'arm chair warrior' if you will.Quite simply I am an addict.Its my tar heroin.Started watching late in age,17,18 I believe on ABC wide world of sports and ESPN in 87'.Originally followed Baseball and scored games,kept stats on everything.After a year it was bye bye baseball and full time boxing junkie.No internet,no computer so I kept 5x8 bio cards on every fighter featured,newspaper articles and notebooks be they a super star or some 5-5 club fighter.Gathered info through all publications,Ring,KO,Boxing Illustrated,World boxing and newspapers,and Ralph citros record books and 'Fight fax inc'Had to call 900 #'s for global updates and started trading/buying tapes in 90'.Ive joked that I was forming a Box-rec before it existed and somehow let technology pass me by.Quit a very good job to do so and actually payed some bills for a while.Ultimately a dumb thing to do.The shit takes you over and blurs lines on reality and sports world.Had little to no internet-computer reliance up until a few years ago..long story.Found Saddo's one night looking for results (on dial up :bucktooth:) and wondered "who are all of these over seas fighters Ive never heard of".Made an account that night,no floating and jumped right in.Has not been the same since and cannot imagine following this sport with no internet...damn near impossible and a lonely azz task.We have a great thing in the instant availability and living in the 'now' with the sport as opposed to what many here remember in the past.After all until recently the major networks did not exactly scramble to cover the fights.Ive recently canceled Cable tv last month and have not seen a live fight in three weeks (streams a rarity or fail often it seems) but make due.Have rethought this decision as I feel like I'm having with drawls ;D.Shite...quite the novel here,need coffee.

In addition to my previous posts.
In terms of forming opinions of fights/fighters etc, that always comes from me. I won't just take someone elses opinion and use it as my own. And I don't comment on matters that I don't feel I can contribute to. Any opinion I express on a fight or a fighter comes from my analysis on that particular fighter or fight. But in terms of keeping up to date with the latest news and whatnot that comes from places like this.

Well, I don't box like YB does and I don't go to watch fights like CMM....but I do follow boxing as a hobby and having been on this site for nigh on half a decade and having had a fair bit of interest before I joined up, I would say I know a bit about boxing. There are others here who follow things more closely than I do and others who have more encyclopedic knowledge than I do, but I think I hold my own on the fighters and areas that hold my own interest.

The internet has been a wonderful tool for boxing fans in that we can get hold of pretty much any fight and quickly too. This access to fights has been vital in maintaining a relatively informed boxing public. The problem with the internet is in all the gossiping and rumour spreading, but we should learn to rise above that really.

I can't remember the last time I picked a fight wrong. :oooh:

I just watch fights. I don't even read much on the internet or Ring mag anymore. I don't even consider myself a hardcore boxing fan anymore honestly. Well I guess I'm fairly hardcore, anybody that watches FNF is I guess. But its not close to my favorite sport anymore. I don't go to many fights, like at all (not out of lack of interest, I just live in a boxing graveyard.)

I talked to a guy who got jacked up by Audley Harrison in 2. I was pretty good at sock gloves boxing when I was a kid. I was a volume puncher, just head down throwing hooks.

Well I am 22 years old now. I began watching boxing with my Dad when I was about 12. I believe the first fight I watched and really paid attention to was Holyfield vs. Lewis II. Then Mosley vs. Delahoya and so on.

On TV I've watched easily over 1,000 fights, probably around 1,500. I watch all that I can be it, ESPN 2, Showbox, FSN, HDNET, and HBO and PPV.

Yes I've really been in a gym and done more than hit a heavy bag. lol

I first learned to box properly from a boxing trainer who himself had 80 amatuer fights and was 13th in the nation and #1 in the state of California at one time.

Since then I've boxed and trained for 2 years at the MMA gym in my town because that is the only fighting gym we have.

I've sparred hundreds of rounds, with anyone who would spar me, including pro MMA fighters.

As far as fights go I have had 3 "smokers" which are unofficial amatuer boxing matches with 16 oz gloves and headgear and only 3, 2 min rounds.

Two of my opponents were pro MMA fighters. The first outweighed me by a good 25 lbs of muscle and that was a hell of a fight that I am very proud of. lol

And I get all my boxing news from here, ESPN 2, and Yahoo sports.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Everyone in boxing uses the internet these days - boxers, trainers, managers, promoters the lot.

As for fans knowledge - it has nothing to do with being in a gym, knowing fighters or being involved with people in the trade.

You don't have to experience being punched in the face to form an opinion. Some fighters/trainers are terrible fight pickers.

Anyone can research and become an expert on the history of boxing. No different to taking an interest in anything.

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Has nothing to do with history of boxing I mean you can read a book for that..

I actually own a boxing Encyclopedia...
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Has nothing to do with being hit...More or less had to do with how do you get your knowledge..

EG- I mean can someone carry a conversation without looking up replies on Boxrec? That type of thing

There is a difference between looking things up and studying them be it internet or elsewhere or fact checking and having to take time out to look up a reply on a question

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Oh right. But people arguing on the internet would be foolish to not use boxrec and the like. If you state incorrect things you look like a chump. A couple of seconds clicking makes you look like a genius ;)

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Hence the point...If that is how one goes about it then they don't know what their talking about

This was just a topic of curiosity...I think I said several times in several post I am not trying to make anyone look stupid or put anyone down..

You on the other hand I am sure get the point of the topic and are just looking to cause some drama and hopefully an argument....So pretty much i am done discussing this with you and I am not going to feed into your bullshit,,

So take some rep and thanks for your input

Generally I have pretty good knowledge on the sport with regards to fighter's accomplishments, records and history on the boxing stars of past and present, but kind of hazy and probably need the internet on lesser known fighters like a Malinaggi or Chuvalo type. Been following boxing since the late 80s when my older brothers got me hooked. It was Tyson-Bruno I that did it for me. Probably my 2nd favorite sport to follow after the NFL.

As far as knowing the ins and outs of being in a boxing ring, slipping a punch, or getting dazed and trying to buy time for the round to end, things like that, then I know next to nothing. I've only been to a boxing gym probably 4 or 5 times in my life. Like another poster here, I do have a heavy bag, speed bag, and boxing gloves at home. I'm no expert on it but find it to be a great cardiovascular exercise.

I've been to a few fights in my life such as the De La Hoya-Quartey fight, Mayweather-Jesus Chavez fight, Mosley-De La Hoya I, etc. Mainly nose bleed seats, but it was a fun atmosphere to be in.

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Well I am 22 years old now. I began watching boxing with my Dad when I was about 12. I believe the first fight I watched and really paid attention to was Holyfield vs. Lewis II. Then Mosley vs. Delahoya and so on.

On TV I've watched easily over 1,000 fights, probably around 1,500. I watch all that I can be it, ESPN 2, Showbox, FSN, HDNET, and HBO and PPV.

Yes I've really been in a gym and done more than hit a heavy bag. lol

I first learned to box properly from a boxing trainer who himself had 80 amatuer fights and was 13th in the nation and #1 in the state of California at one time.

Since then I've boxed and trained for 2 years at the MMA gym in my town because that is the only fighting gym we have.

I've sparred hundreds of rounds, with anyone who would spar me, including pro MMA fighters.

As far as fights go I have had 3 "smokers" which are unofficial amatuer boxing matches with 16 oz gloves and headgear and only 3, 2 min rounds.

Two of my opponents were pro MMA fighters. The first outweighed me by a good 25 lbs of muscle and that was a hell of a fight that I am very proud of. lol

And I get all my boxing news from here, ESPN 2, and Yahoo sports.

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Yeah that how I started off as well watching with my Dad....Ali Vs Spinks 1 was my first actual fight

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Has nothing to do with history of boxing I mean you can read a book for that..

I actually own a boxing Encyclopedia...
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Has nothing to do with being hit...More or less had to do with how do you get your knowledge..

EG- I mean can someone carry a conversation without looking up replies on Boxrec? That type of thing

There is a difference between looking things up and studying them be it internet or elsewhere or fact checking and having to take time out to look up a reply on a question

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Oh right. But people arguing on the internet would be foolish to not use boxrec and the like. If you state incorrect things you look like a chump. A couple of seconds clicking makes you look like a genius ;)

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Hence the point...If that is how one goes about it then they don't know what their talking about

This was just a topic of curiosity...I think I said several times in several post I am not trying to make anyone look stupid or put anyone down..

You on the other hand I am sure get the point of the topic and are just looking to cause some drama and hopefully an argument....So pretty much i am done discussing this with you and I am not going to feed into your bullshit,,

So take some rep and thanks for your input

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:lol:

I haven't got a clue what you're pissed about. Sorry :-\

Did someone beat you in an online debate that you think you would have won man to man?

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

I am just wondering how some people get their information on boxing....

I mean how long have you been watching the sport, how many fights have you really seen be it in person or video, have you ever really been in a gym other then a few times hitting the bag...Do you actually know any fighters and that does not mean third hand because you know a guy who knows a guy.....Can you actually get into a debate on a fighters career without having to look at boxrec to see if they won or lost a fight?....

Seriously though I am wondering because it seems so many people these days actually know little about boxing itself other then what they get off the internet yet they will try to debate things as if they know it first hand...

EG- When someone says Fighter A wants X amount of dollars to face Fighter B and a ring size of 16X16...But Fighter B states they wont fight in a ring less then 20X20..

Where do you get your info from?...Website, ESPN, chatroom, Reliable news source like a newspaper or do you get it from Forums and gossip columns

It what you are saying based on REAL boxing knowledge or all second hand info

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I haven't been watching boxing very long (since about 2005 I think), but I feel my opinions are legitimate. I've been in a boxing gym, I've sparred, but that is as far as I've gone in regards to competing. I don't know any professional fighters, but I do know an amateur Canadian National Champion :p. Kinda.

As for the news I get regarding the sport, the only other site I regularly look at aside from Saddo's is Fightnews. I occasionally peruse Boxingtalk for the interviews, but they're so ridiculously biased that almost everything on that site is useless.

I don't think the legitimacy of someone's argument or the depth of their understanding of the sport is predicated on experience or the result of years of study and I certainly do not buy the elitist view that someone needs to be involved "in the buis" (sorry, couldn't resist) to have a deep understanding of the game or to formulate solid opinions.

I haven't looked at boxingtalk in ages. There was actually a period of about a year (that coincided with my joining here) where I was obsessed with the sport and learning as much as possible about it as I could so I think I do know a fair bit but the last few years I've just been coasting on that previous knowledge.

CFH, are you insinuating that you know as much as TM? :mad:

How many of you people know as much as I do about Niccolino Loche? Who was James Toney's first trainer? Which fighter did TM want an apology from in blood?

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I haven't looked at boxingtalk in ages. There was actually a period of about a year (that coincided with my joining here) where I was obsessed with the sport and learning as much as possible about it as I could so I think I do know a fair bit but the last few years I've just been coasting on that previous knowledge.

CFH, are you insinuating that you know as much as TM? :mad:

How many of you people know as much as I do about Niccolino Loche? Who was James Toney's first trainer? Which fighter did TM want an apology from in blood?

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Not at all man, I'm not "in the buis"

Why would you write it as "buis" anyways? Business is spelled with the "i" following the "s", not before.

None of you, Bill Miller, Anthony Mora (and he wanted it written in Mora's blood, not somebody else's.)

It's beyond sad TM wont be replying to this thread, he would have LOVED it.

Whatever you boring fuckers write it wont be a patch on that awesome lunatic. Fact.

I do use boxrec to fact-check sometimes. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that. The information is out there, so why not look it up? I've actually learned some interesting things from boxrec.

I don't know a thing about boxing. I use boxrec for facts, especially for dates and timelines. I try to watch as much boxing as I can in a week ESPN2, Vs. Telemundo, Telefutura, HBO, Showtime, Fox Sports, TyC streams, ARD streams, Sky streams, etc. etc. I have trained a bit and sparred a bit at a few local gyms. I don't know any pros.

I think some of it may come down to sites,box rec as somewhat of a crutch for lack of a better term.Like when some,no one around here of courssssse,talk about "remembering" certain fights or fighters.I fooking love Box rec and the record books but stating a fight line result and speaking on it as unshakable truth does not began to tell how it unfolded.The old saying,believe none of what u read and half of what u see...:cwm13: wait...F it.

I mean shite...not only Boxrec but U tube,other major downloads...have changed the sport and made it possible to follow much more intensely.

Unless Ive got a Kid, Boxing at a certain weight or level nowadays Ive no interest of the who or when. My main concern is Why and How. Only last week I was given Tickets to a show, I went and before the Main Event I thought this is crap and left. I do the same with Soccer, I work with a few Players get free Tickets to watch them. Then 10 minutes into the 2nd half get pissed of and leave, thats something I wouldnt have done years ago, it must be my age.

Loved boxing since watching it regular on 'The Big Fight Live' on ITV when I was about 10 or 11. Watching Eubank, Naz and Benn with my pot noodle and single can of beer my dad would give me.

I boxed for 3 years in my teens without really watching much boxing as it all started to go PPV and what not and my tight arsed parents were content with 5 terrestrial channels.

Once I got a job at 17 I started buying PPV's on cable and once again got massively into it.

Got the internet installed a year or so after we got cable and that was it. I was a reader of this place quite a while before I joined and I reckon about 60% of all I know about boxing came from Saddo's.

A MASSIVE thrill for me was watching all the ODLH,Vargas,Mosley,Trinidad,Mayorga fights I'd missed over the years which I got thanks to this site. Catching up on boxing and having a place to access it all gave me the buzz back in a big way.

Anyway what was the question? Jotting down my fucking life story here:p.........Yeah I think I know quite a lot but it's mainly due to this place. There is no better way to learn stuff other than talking to other fans.

I went to professional matches 5-6 times, mainly to see Joachim Alcine, Eric Lucas, Leonard Dorin and Bute fighting, every fights were in Montreal and one in Leipzig Germany when Lucas lost against Beyer. As for my general knowledge of boxing, I would rate myself in the middle of those following it very often, know a decent bit, have a load to learn, this place is perfect to discuss, put out my arguments, correct them when peoples give me facts I didn't consider or didn't know about and improve my culture on something I do really enjoy.

The first fight I saw on TV was a John Conteh fight. I just went to boxrec :) to try and work out which one but can't, it was around 1975 and I always watched any boxing on the three UK TV channels after that. The first fight I saw live was a Billy Hardy fight in Sunderland when I was 17 or 18. I got right into boxing when I was eight or so and trained for a while but had to stop due to family problems. Saw almost all the big UK fights 1991-95 live and a lot of the big American ones 95-2000, but 1991-2006ish I paid no real attention to the sport other than going to fights or watching them on telly so there's a lot I missed. I've got to say that even over the past few years when I have been paying attention I'll forget fights. Fights or fighters get mentioned on here and I'll think who the hell is that, is he any good and I'll check boxrec :) and think oh yeah, I've seen his last two fights. :)

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It's beyond sad TM wont be replying to this thread, he would have LOVED it.

Whatever you boring fuckers write it wont be a patch on that awesome lunatic. Fact.

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What ever happened to Trainer Monkey ?

I thought he was a nice guy myself.

I know he trained club level fighters and his wife who was a female boxer.

Did he get banned ?

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Originally Posted by Hulk

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Originally Posted by Fenster

It's beyond sad TM wont be replying to this thread, he would have LOVED it.

Whatever you boring fuckers write it wont be a patch on that awesome lunatic. Fact.

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What ever happened to Trainer Monkey ?

I thought he was a nice guy myself.

I know he trained club level fighters and his wife who was a female boxer.

Did he get banned ?

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He left voluntarily. It looked something like this:

http://home.millsaps.edu/mcelvrs/Nixon_Leaving.jpg