mayweather and mosley having a great fight would be the worst thing for boxing

Seriously i can just envisage the situation now. Floyd takes a close somewhat controversial decision over shane with various back and forths in the fight and enivatably calls on mosley for a re-match forcing pacquiao into retirement

The whole scene is setup perfectly for mayweather to dodge pacquiao

You're not drunk as you are typing this are you?:confused:

Mayweather and Mosley having an awesome night would be great for boxing. And if those 2 have a rematch, Pac can fight some guy to stay busy.

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You're not drunk as you are typing this are you?:confused:

Mayweather and Mosley having an awesome night would be great for boxing. And if those 2 have a rematch, Pac can fight some guy to stay busy.

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I really dont see it mate, pacquiaos got too many fingers in pies, if he doesnt get floyd by the end of the year i just see him calling it a day and moving on.

And to answer your question its only midday even im not that bad, give me till at least 2-3 to start posting drunk;D;D;D

Wait what?
:confused::wackomz4::spit::drinker::drunks:

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Hammer have you taken up smoking crack in shock at our terrible season?

Mayweather & Mosley will have millions of people worldwide watching it. If it's a great fight that's even better for boxing. If the public wants a rematch there will be one. If they don't then the winner will fight Pacquiao.

Hammer = best current poster on this forum.

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Hammer have you taken up smoking crack?

Mayweather & Mosley will have millions of people worldwide watching it. If it's a great fight that's even better for boxing. If the public wants a rematch there will be one. If they don't then the winner will fight Pacquiao.

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As above. +1.

Hammer gets the prize for the most amusing post thread title I have ever seen. :rolleyes:

seriously boys when mayweather-mosley 2 takes place in the winter and pacquiao goes into retirement you `ll be cursing yourself for not listening to a distinguished and valued forum member trying to warn you all.

Hammer, i could see that happening too. Though i think it may be a small chance i would not count it out. I'm hoping Floyd beats him convincingly so there is no question as to what fight needs to happen after that.

Even if it is a brilliant fight that demanded a re-match, the winner would still fight Pac Man first because that is where the most money would be.

maybe mayweather wins a close, hard fought decision against mosely that calls for a rematch. but mayweather, afraid of losing his precious zero retires and never fights again. then pac fights bradley for christmas and destroys him in under 2 rounds and then retires to a desk job.

I think Pac will keep going until he is beaten badly, whether Mayweather does it or not, Pac is having fun in the ring at the minute and you can see it's where he feels at home. If every boxer who threatened retirement actually backed it up we'd only have about 3 world class boxers fighting right now.

Ok, lets put this another way and see how it reads, so how much credability would the title ' Mayweather and Mosley having a great terrible fight would be the worst thing for boxing ?

The answer, probably alot.

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I think Pac will keep going until he is beaten badly, whether Mayweather does it or not, Pac is having fun in the ring at the minute and you can see it's where he feels at home. If every boxer who threatened retirement actually backed it up we'd only have about 3 world class boxers fighting right now.

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No he wont

he is running for office this year if he was to win do you seriously believe he`d just throw that all away to concentrate on being a full time boxer

Pac has 2 fights tops left, but i would not be surprised if mayweather hasnt happened by the end of the year that we dont see him back in a boxing ring for quite a long time

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I think Pac will keep going until he is beaten badly, whether Mayweather does it or not, Pac is having fun in the ring at the minute and you can see it's where he feels at home. If every boxer who threatened retirement actually backed it up we'd only have about 3 world class boxers fighting right now.

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No he wont

he is running for office this year if he was to win do you seriously believe he`d just throw that all away to concentrate on being a full time boxer

Pac has 2 fights tops left, but i would not be surprised if mayweather hasnt happened by the end of the year that we dont see him back in a boxing ring for quite a long time

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I hear you, but what I cant see happening is Manny hanging his gloves up when really he is right at the very top of his game. There is a still a legacy to be enhanced ever further, there is still huge demand for his fights, and he has shown zero signs of decline. There is plenty of great fights still out there for Manny, and plenty of $$$$$ to be made. I really dont see him hanging them up anytime soon.

Pac v Mayweather isn't the 'be all and end all' of Boxing.

Is it ???

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No, but it does signify a very unique hurdle within the sport that has to be overcome. If we can no longer get the 2 best fighters in the world to get in with eachother it sets a very negative precedent for the sport to come in the future years

However much we wanna sugar coat it the ufc is on boxings coat tails especially in the U.S just waiting for us to mess up every time. If we are no longer able to make the dream matches then eventually boxing will die out amongst the masses

I'd like to think that Boxing is capable of charting it's own path.

I think it's the unexpected classics that can go a long way to keep the sport healthy.

I honestly don't think we should regard ANY Mayweather fights as classics. If anything, a fight with Pacquiao could wind up being a huge let down ???

Then what?

Don't put all your eggs in one basket ;)

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I'd like to think that Boxing is capable of charting it's own path.

I think it's the unexpected classics that can go a long way to keep the sport healthy.

I honestly don't think we should regard ANY Mayweather fights as classics. If anything, a fight with Pacquiao could wind up being a huge let down ???

Then what?

Don't put all your eggs in one basket ;)

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Never a true'er word written !

Picture this, Pacman catches Floyd early in the fight, Floyd then shit's himself and goes on his bike for 12 rds potshotting, hardly a spectacle for the masses is it :confused:

I don't even know why I am dignifying "hattonthehammer" with a response here, but here goes.


You are a dipsh*t. Who cares if Pacquiao fights or not? I'm sure he'll find a good opponent to thrash in the meantime. With any luck Mayweather will lose, and we'll get to see two fighters fight. Mosley-Pacquiao would be good for boxing. All fights are good for boxing. What was the point of this post, again?

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I don't even know why I am dignifying "hattonthehammer" with a response here, but here goes.


You are a dipsh*t. Who cares if Pacquiao fights or not? I'm sure he'll find a good opponent to thrash in the meantime. With any luck Mayweather will lose, and we'll get to see two fighters fight. Mosley-Pacquiao would be good for boxing. All fights are good for boxing. What was the point of this post, again?

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Listen to what im saying retard before commenting

Im not saying by any means pacquiao and mayweather would be a classic fight. If anything it`ll probably stink the house out. But as ive mentioned its the precedent it sets that even in the exact same division we cant get the 2 recognised p4p greats to fight eachother.

And no he wont continue fighting just for the sake of it, that i can quote from freddie roach. Had you of actually taken the time to see the road to dallas HBO special freddie clearly talks about his fears this could be pacs last ever fight because he is running for office in a few months time and he sure as hell isnt going to go through the grueling process only to immidiately give that post up to become a full time boxer once again.

Im not saying floyd-mosley isnt a live fight. Heck im even tipping mosley to oust mayweather. But the fact remains that if floyd is succesful then theres only fight left for pacquiao to prove his true greatness

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No, but it does signify a very unique hurdle within the sport that has to be overcome. If we can no longer get the 2 best fighters in the world to get in with eachother it sets a very negative precedent for the sport to come in the future years

However much we wanna sugar coat it the ufc is on boxings coat tails especially in the U.S just waiting for us to mess up every time. If we are no longer able to make the dream matches then eventually boxing will die out amongst the masses

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Maybe you haven't heard of Fedor Emelienenko? And Brock Lesnar being sick for months unable to defend the HW title he won with a record of 3-1-0... Why should Anderson Silva fight Forrest Griffin instead of a real contender @LHW? How does GSP make Welter every time? Why is his only challenge BJ Penn a man fighting 15lbs light than he? Why are all these PPV for UFC second rate fighters?

You are blaming problems with boxing that are across the board in the fight business. I think it's the promoters, multiple belts, and fighters willingness to accept being paper champs rather than real men. If boxing fails it will be for these 3 reasons. I don't see boxing going anywhere but on people's TVs for the next couple decades. There will always be real champs out there, and bollocks if you can't recognize who they are.

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Pac v Mayweather isn't the 'be all and end all' of Boxing.

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No, but it does signify a very unique hurdle within the sport that has to be overcome. If we can no longer get the 2 best fighters in the world to get in with eachother it sets a very negative precedent for the sport to come in the future years

However much we wanna sugar coat it the ufc is on boxings coat tails especially in the U.S just waiting for us to mess up every time. If we are no longer able to make the dream matches then eventually boxing will die out amongst the masses

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Maybe you haven't heard of Fedor Emelienenko? And Brock Lesnar being sick for months unable to defend the HW title he won with a record of 3-1-0... Why should Anderson Silva fight Forrest Griffin instead of a real contender @LHW? How does GSP make Welter every time? Why is his only challenge BJ Penn a man fighting 15lbs light than he? Why are all these PPV for UFC second rate fighters?

You are blaming problems with boxing that are across the board in the fight business. I think it's the promoters, multiple belts, and fighters willingness to accept being paper champs rather than real men. If boxing fails it will be for these 3 reasons. I don't see boxing going anywhere but on people's TVs for the next couple decades. There will always be real champs out there, and bollocks if you can't recognize who they are.

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UFC can promote a ppv around 8-9 solid world title matchups. With boxing the main event is all or nothing, a ufc main event can differentiate if one fight doesnt go down the main undercard fight simply becomes the main event. You dont buy a mayweather-mosley ppv for daniel jacobs or saul alvarez.

theres your answer to that

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Seriously i can just envisage the situation now. Floyd takes a close somewhat controversial decision over shane with various back and forths in the fight and enivatably calls on mosley for a re-match forcing pacquiao into retirement

The whole scene is setup perfectly for mayweather to dodge pacquiao

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Pac would still have options, even if you think PBF is dodging (and I don't). Willaims appears eager for a fight at welter and Pac taking him on would be a rahter brave move (perhaps a win-win, becase even if he loses, the reach/height differential would provide a mitigating circumstance, like it did with Duran/Hearns).

He could also make an offer to Mosley, who appears to want to take on all comers, and throw a wrench into the rematch.