Ok, so who you got fellas? I'm excited about this one since I'm seeing it live at Detroit ;). Sh*tty undercard but hopefully there will be at least one more fight worth watching:rolleyes:. Anyone see a fight live in Joe Louis arena btw?
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Ok, so who you got fellas? I'm excited about this one since I'm seeing it live at Detroit ;). Sh*tty undercard but hopefully there will be at least one more fight worth watching:rolleyes:. Anyone see a fight live in Joe Louis arena btw?
I think Dirrell can win a decision here, so many angles switching up stances etc. Abraham will probably not be able to adjust. I think the late advantage goes to Abraham for sure as he will be testing Dirrell's chin in the latter rounds.
Still I have Dirrell UD with a lot of people still complaining about his style.
Next Saturday is packed with great fights
Moreno/Cermano
Abraham/Dirrell
Kameda/Wonjongkam
Guzman/Funeka II
Maidana/Cayo
Henry/Garay
Sithsamerchai/Kuroki
My computer's going to overheat from the stream action.
Have fun at the fights man!
If dirrell is given andre ward like head butting privilages then i give him every chance on this one and stopping abraham on cuts
If however on this occasion the european fighter is given a fair crack at the whip it`ll be a abraham massacre
Yeah , its a huge weekend of fights. Wish all of those were at my venue:cool: thanks bro, ill definately have a good time . It'll make up for my last weekend . (wisdom teeth fun)
I think Dirrell can win this fight if he keeps Abraham on the end of his jab and uses a lot of movement, but I'm taking Abraham, simply cos I can't see Dirrell staying away from him for 12 rounds. Abraham must be better at cutting the ring off then Froch was so I see him getting to Dirrell at some point and stopping him.
It'd be nice if there was one on this weekend. All we have is one of the laboratory creations trying to bore us to death again.
Direll has the speed and ability to beat abraham but not the heart. Direll should throw nothing but jabs till abraham drops that clottey like defense and try to counter as he tries to counter direll. The only shot i really see him having. Make abraham fight, or just wait him out till he wants to. Other than that it will be the same ole same. Abraham coving up and countering with power shots till he breaks direll down like everyone else. Funny when you think miranda of all non boxing people has actually come the closest to beating him
Agreed. The whole thing was as controversial as the farce we had here last March in Manchester with Barrera. Ward was the home fighter and was allowed to get away with headbutt after headbutt. The travelling fighter was very poorly treated.Quote:
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Abs could be in for somethig similar. If it goes 12 then Dirrels getting the nod whether he deserves it or not.
As much as it pains me to say it, I think Dirrell squeaks one out over here. I think Abraham will be too willing a partner for the clinching octopus. Dirrell slips the 1,2 and holds on for dear life... then scores points with jabs and flurries and runs for dear life while using the ring. Everyone here will Ooh and Aah over anything Dirrell lands and make it all seem worse than it is.:-\
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Originally Posted by GAMEAgreed. The whole thing was as controversial as the farce we had here last March in Manchester with Barrera. Ward was the home fighter and was allowed to get away with headbutt after headbutt. The travelling fighter was very poorly treated.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Abs could be in for somethig similar. If it goes 12 then Dirrels getting the nod whether he deserves it or not.
yeah same here, abrahams punch count is far too low to be able to take a decision over dirrell in america
In germany its pretty much exclusive that you cant rough up abraham when his in his stance. He wont be allowed that outside of the mother land and fighters will be able to prize his defence apart and get into him.
If dirrell sufficently handles the power id be very surprised not to see him a UD victor on the night
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I have been to several fights there, it's not bad, it seats about 20,000 people and I'm sure it won't be sold out so try to grab a seat on one of the sides of the arena. Last fight I seen there was Hearns losing to Uriah Grant by tko but Hearns quit on the stool after twisting his ankle, I also seen Hilmer Kenty and Hearns win their first major titles their, Ernie Shavers vs Randall tex Cobb was on that card also, that was a boring sloppy fight with Cobb winning by tko or exhaustion, I seen Holmes ko Leon Spinks their too.
Hearns and Kenty were great but watching them both come up through the ranks at the old Olympia stadium was even better, that place was great to see a fight at.
Style wise Dirrell is a nightmare for Abraham. Imo Dirrell is gonna out work him much like Taylor did in the fight but not fade after 4 rounds.Weather he can manage to not get hit by the bombs that AA will be throwing later in the fight is another thing but if he avoids them he wins the fight for me.
Guys, you gotta stop with that American bias nonsense. Not all places in the US are identical. Unlike you, we are a country of immigrants. Some areas have a predominantly Mexican population and some Armenian. If that fight had taken place in Palm Springs where it was originally scheduled, there would have been an Abraham bias because the crowd would have been almost entirely of Armenian descent. Now, I'll grant that it was a little odd that the fight was moved to Flint, Michigan, Dirrell's hometown because of an alleged injury. Sounds fishy. I can't lie. That said, Abraham is a fan favorite in the tournament and a knockout artist and the best competitor Dirrell has ever been in with. It should be a good fight as long as Dirrell doesn't stink out the joint.
Totally agree with that. Dirrell got away with murder last time out and wasn't penalised at all. It was all so blatant as well. I'm not all that impressed with Dirrell and all that 'god' bollocks does my head in. I hope Abraham covers his head properly and gets Dirrell out of there.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEAgreed. The whole thing was as controversial as the farce we had here last March in Manchester with Barrera. Ward was the home fighter and was allowed to get away with headbutt after headbutt. The travelling fighter was very poorly treated.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Abs could be in for somethig similar. If it goes 12 then Dirrels getting the nod whether he deserves it or not.
I didn't realise this weekend was so stacked. Cheers to KS for pointing that out. Should be fun!
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Originally Posted by milesTotally agree with that. Dirrell got away with murder last time out and wasn't penalised at all. It was all so blatant as well. I'm not all that impressed with Dirrell and all that 'god' bollocks does my head in. I hope Abraham covers his head properly and gets Dirrell out of there.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEAgreed. The whole thing was as controversial as the farce we had here last March in Manchester with Barrera. Ward was the home fighter and was allowed to get away with headbutt after headbutt. The travelling fighter was very poorly treated.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Abs could be in for somethig similar. If it goes 12 then Dirrels getting the nod whether he deserves it or not.
I didn't realise this weekend was so stacked. Cheers to KS for pointing that out. Should be fun!
It was ward we were talking about mate
Sure dirrell spent 12rounds running, clenching and falling to the floor. But thats not half as bad as someone who clearly gets away with 3-4 headbutts in a fight. And im not by any means saying it was american bias, i am saying it was oakland biased. Ward would of been thrown out of the ring had that of been in vegas.
Abrahams toughest test by an absoloute mile here. Dirrell is awkward enough thousands of miles away, god only knows what he`s got planned in his very own town.
I think most boxing fans european/american etc will be hoping this doesnt turn into a 12round game of chase....but it will:(
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Originally Posted by milesTotally agree with that. Dirrell got away with murder last time out and wasn't penalised at all. It was all so blatant as well. I'm not all that impressed with Dirrell and all that 'god' bollocks does my head in. I hope Abraham covers his head properly and gets Dirrell out of there.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEAgreed. The whole thing was as controversial as the farce we had here last March in Manchester with Barrera. Ward was the home fighter and was allowed to get away with headbutt after headbutt. The travelling fighter was very poorly treated.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Abs could be in for somethig similar. If it goes 12 then Dirrels getting the nod whether he deserves it or not.
I didn't realise this weekend was so stacked. Cheers to KS for pointing that out. Should be fun!
Do u mean Ward?
Dirrell is a spoiler too but Ward is more subtle with his headbutts cuz they dont look intentional but they do alot of damage. Kess was cut over both eyes. The ref did nothing but atleast he broke the action. Dave Paris on the otherhand let Kahn nut Barrera and let him carry on attacking him, there was no break until round 5. Ive seen refs call time for borderline low blows, rabbit punches etc but a severe headclassh that leaves one guys cranium exposed and he doesnt do anything. Anyways I digress. A year on Im still angry about that and want to assult Daves close family members. Abs needs to be aware that it wont be easy in Amercia and he can just look at Kesslers fight to see that it will be 2 against 1.
Two things gonna be at play in this one for me man. Interesting fight.
Dirrell doesn't seem to like the pressure and will run, but Abraham spends so much time shelled up like Clottey that this may give Dirrell time to be clever and really pick his shots.
On the other hand, Dirrell has been caught and flattened sliding the ropes with a wide hook by I can't remember who. He was caught retreating, which he does alot with his hands down. One thing for sure is that Abraham will be much more accurate and faster than Carl Froch was with his wide hooks with better technique so theres every chance that he'll get caught again. If Froch was actually that good, he would have caught Dirrell much more, but at the same time, if Dirrell was any good, he would have given the slow and cumbersome Froch a boxing lesson.
I like an Abraham knockout in this one, just catching Dirrell on the run.
I was leaning towards Dirrell stealing this on points by running and getting a home town decision. He may be borig like he was vs Stevens but they may give him the nod but now im not so sure. I saw this knockdown and it reminded me why he is so negative. He doesnt trust his own chin. Vs Froch he was running cuz he knew he couldnt take flush shots and its something that will never leave him abit like Audley even though Dirrell showed he could take a fair punch
Dirrels one of those guys that when he gets knocked down he is temporarily out. His lights are turned off but he has great recovery skills. Abit like Joe. 12 rounds is a long time to run. Sooner or later Abs will catch him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEM2hVz3wfo
I think I probably do. ;D:pQuote:
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Originally Posted by milesTotally agree with that. Dirrell got away with murder last time out and wasn't penalised at all. It was all so blatant as well. I'm not all that impressed with Dirrell and all that 'god' bollocks does my head in. I hope Abraham covers his head properly and gets Dirrell out of there.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
I didn't realise this weekend was so stacked. Cheers to KS for pointing that out. Should be fun!
Do u mean Ward?
Dirrell is a spoiler too but Ward is more subtle with his headbutts cuz they dont look intentional but they do alot of damage. Kess was cut over both eyes. The ref did nothing but atleast he broke the action. Dave Paris on the otherhand let Kahn nut Barrera and let him carry on attacking him, there was no break until round 5. Ive seen refs call time for borderline low blows, rabbit punches etc but a severe headclassh that leaves one guys cranium exposed and he doesnt do anything. Anyways I digress. A year on Im still angry about that and want to assult Daves close family members. Abs needs to be aware that it wont be easy in Amercia and he can just look at Kesslers fight to see that it will be 2 against 1.
All I know about these two fighters is what I saw in their last two fights against Froch and Kessler. I keep getting them mixed up because they are both called Andre and both fight ugly. The one that beat Kessler is the god bothering weirdo and used his head a lot and I have the post fight interview in my head even now. The other one is the ponce that kept jumping on the floor everytime he got touched. No, I don't like them. I hope they both lose.
That Khan/Barrera fight was twisted and seriously screwed up. I have never seen a cut as bad as that and for it to go on until round 5 was criminal. Khan will get his comeuppance in due course! :mad:
Rocha, that was the guy.Quote:
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Yeah man, I definately think Abraham has the quality, technical skills and power to catch Dirrell just as sufficiently as Rocha did. I think Froch and his man McCracken had Dirrell figured out totally, which is why they threw so many wide looping hooks, I just think Froch wasn't good enough or quick enough to carry it out. Abraham is good enough and quick enough... So IMO AA is gonna catch Dirrell.