Thoughts? will this fight ever happen. I can see Pacman Retiering because of Mayweather not wanting the fight as hes scared of him. Mosley Should of put in the contract Winner of fight is challenger to Pacman or somthing lol.
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Thoughts? will this fight ever happen. I can see Pacman Retiering because of Mayweather not wanting the fight as hes scared of him. Mosley Should of put in the contract Winner of fight is challenger to Pacman or somthing lol.
Neither fighter is afraid of the other. Is that what you really wanted to get out?
It Floyd beats Shane (which is likely) then it HAS to happen the demand is too big to ignore. Even if Shane knocks Floyd out I'd like to see Manny beat him up too.
Hypertheticly, lets say Floyd beats Mosley and theres talk of Pac-Maywether again, Maywether will no doubt, and quite fairly in my opinion expect the same drug testing conditions as he demanded before. If this does happen, arnt we expecting the same response from Pacman as last time. He made himself quite clear that he was not going to compramise with PBF.
In order for this super fight to take place we surely require Floyd to back down from his previous terms and fight Pac despite the PED suspicions (which i doubt he will), or for Pac to except the conditions of Floyd.
Now im not as 'in the know' of this situation as i'd like to be, so could some one let me know if either of these outcomes seem likey to occur at the moment. Or does it look like this is gonna be an incredible bout that will never happen?
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No Whant to know if there is actually a chance of the fight as Roach said Pacman Could be retiring and this is the only real fight left for him in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by blegit
I don't believe anything Roach says, he's always telling stories. I also don't think they are afraid of each other. They both stand to lose a lot of money if this fight doesn't happen. Lets wait til the Mosley-Mayweather fight is over to bring this up. It's pointless to bring it up now, a potential fight is 7-8 months away.
Neither can spit on 40-50 millions each. It will happen, after a load of drama and emotions generated, for the cause of the promotion.
I suppose noone could turn down a fight for that amount of cash lol. Do you think Money will have to drop this Drug test situation he wants though?
after his fight with Mosley outsells Pacquiao/Clottey and after people continue to question how legit Pacquiao really is (in terms of him being clean) i doubt that Manny will have any choice but to agree to the blood testsQuote:
Originally Posted by rowza
You cannot compare both fights as Clottey does not have the same popularity as either Mayweather or Mosley. Obviously the Mayweather-Mosley fight will make more money. Now if it was the other way around like Pac-Mosley vs Mayweather - Clottey then the Pac - Mosley would make more money.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesafter his fight with Mosley outsells Pacquiao/Clottey and after people continue to question how legit Pacquiao really is (in terms of him being clean) i doubt that Manny will have any choice but to agree to the blood testsQuote:
Originally Posted by rowza
Like everyone else I'm desperate for this fight to happen! But one of the two needs to back down and it will probably be Manny, I honestly believe PBF is too scared of losing his '0' to back down on his demands.
The more I think about it the more I believe this has all been hyped up from the offset. Call it wishful thinking but I reckon that day in Santa Monica when all the promoters met before that judge they decided to postpone the fight in order to build anticipation.
Clottey and Mosely are by no means a 'gimme' for Pac or Floyd but the demand for them to fight eachother will be even higher after Floyd beats Mosley.
That is the $50 million dollar question.
This fight will happen and i assure you pac wants it more than we fans do.Quote:
Originally Posted by rowza
How about an avatar bet? Whoever loses will wear justin timberlake avatar with the title "i'm a slave for this guy?" Of course i'll go to pac and pbf will happen, while you obviously won't. To be worn for a month after being confirmed? Deal? ;D
Floyd do not need to drop his blood drug test demand. All he has to do is just agree to the 24 days before the fight that was requested by Manny (it can even go down to 20 days which i believe was when Manny had his blood test in the Clottey fight).Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesafter his fight with Mosley outsells Pacquiao/Clottey and after people continue to question how legit Pacquiao really is (in terms of him being clean) i doubt that Manny will have any choice but to agree to the blood testsQuote:
Originally Posted by rowza
It's a given that that Mayweather-Mosley will outsell the Pacquiao-Clottey fight in terms of PPV buys. But the stadium attendance in Pacquiao's fight does not seem to indicate that Manny's reputation has been severely affected.
Let me guess you're going to desperately try to find a way to make sure the fight doesn't happen, just so you can put that on & 'blame' it on losing a sig bet ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamuraThis fight will happen and i assure you pac wants it more than we fans do.Quote:
Originally Posted by rowza
How about an avatar bet? Whoever loses will wear justin timberlake avatar with the title "i'm a slave for this guy?" Of course i'll go to pac and pbf will happen, while you obviously won't. To be worn for a month after being confirmed? Deal? ;D
but you can compare Mayweather/Marquez to Pacquiao/Clottey, neither Marquez nor Clottey are "big names" to the average viewer, so if you compare PPV buys from the last four fights Mayweather vs Marquez/Mosley and Pacquiao vs Cotto/Clottey, it's pretty obvious that Mayweather is the bigger drawQuote:
Originally Posted by texasgamerYou cannot compare both fights as Clottey does not have the same popularity as either Mayweather or Mosley. Obviously the Mayweather-Mosley fight will make more money. Now if it was the other way around like Pac-Mosley vs Mayweather - Clottey then the Pac - Mosley would make more money.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesafter his fight with Mosley outsells Pacquiao/Clottey and after people continue to question how legit Pacquiao really is (in terms of him being clean) i doubt that Manny will have any choice but to agree to the blood testsQuote:
Originally Posted by rowza
or Manny could accept the 14 day cutoff date that Mayweather had already offered, seeing how Mayweather already accepted all of Manny's terms :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerFloyd do not need to drop his blood drug test demand. All he has to do is just agree to the 24 days before the fight that was requested by Manny (it can even go down to 20 days which i believe was when Manny had his blood test in the Clottey fight).Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesafter his fight with Mosley outsells Pacquiao/Clottey and after people continue to question how legit Pacquiao really is (in terms of him being clean) i doubt that Manny will have any choice but to agree to the blood testsQuote:
Originally Posted by rowza
It's a given that that Mayweather-Mosley will outsell the Pacquiao-Clottey fight in terms of PPV buys. But the stadium attendance in Pacquiao's fight does not seem to indicate that Manny's reputation has been severely affected.
Marquez is obviously the bigger name than clottey even to casual fans with his numerous wars with established names. (which he also dominated btw. except the pac and pbf fights)Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesbut you can compare Mayweather/Marquez to Pacquiao/Clottey, neither Marquez nor Clottey are "big names" to the average viewer, so if you compare PPV buys from the last four fights Mayweather vs Marquez/Mosley and Pacquiao vs Cotto/Clottey, it's pretty obvious that Mayweather is the bigger drawQuote:
Originally Posted by texasgamerYou cannot compare both fights as Clottey does not have the same popularity as either Mayweather or Mosley. Obviously the Mayweather-Mosley fight will make more money. Now if it was the other way around like Pac-Mosley vs Mayweather - Clottey then the Pac - Mosley would make more money.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Yeah yeah same story yada yada yada....:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesor Manny could accept the 14 day cutoff date that Mayweather had already offered, seeing how Mayweather already accepted all of Manny's terms :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerFloyd do not need to drop his blood drug test demand. All he has to do is just agree to the 24 days before the fight that was requested by Manny (it can even go down to 20 days which i believe was when Manny had his blood test in the Clottey fight).Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
It's a given that that Mayweather-Mosley will outsell the Pacquiao-Clottey fight in terms of PPV buys. But the stadium attendance in Pacquiao's fight does not seem to indicate that Manny's reputation has been severely affected.
same as what was mentioned before my postQuote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamuraYeah yeah same story yada yada yada....:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesor Manny could accept the 14 day cutoff date that Mayweather had already offered, seeing how Mayweather already accepted all of Manny's terms :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
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Hypertheticly, lets say Floyd beats Mosley and theres talk of Pac-Maywether again, Maywether will no doubt, and quite fairly in my opinion expect the same drug testing conditions as he demanded before
He asked the same vs Mosley so I don't see why that would change.
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Do you think Money will have to drop this Drug test situation he wants though?
How about Manny dropping the $10,000,000 fine per extra pound for Floyd and no more 50/50 (if May 1st fight has more demand) and Floyd drops the blood tests for Manny.
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i doubt that Manny will have any choice but to agree to the blood tests
I hope so. That would shut mouths of those who have pointed fingers at him for using steroids, PEDs, etc. OR he would be caught being a cheat. I think it would be great if that was a requirement now. Better to play it safe for everybody, don't you think? I don't see anything wrong in taking measures to make the sport cleaner.
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But the stadium attendance in Pacquiao's fight does not seem to indicate that Manny's reputation has been severely affected
No, it means ticket prices were ACCESIBLE to the general public and not Vegas-priced.
What a strange thing to come up with. So strange in fact that I feel you must have been thinking about it for quite a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamuraThis fight will happen and i assure you pac wants it more than we fans do.Quote:
Originally Posted by rowza
How about an avatar bet? Whoever loses will wear justin timberlake avatar with the title "i'm a slave for this guy?" Of course i'll go to pac and pbf will happen, while you obviously won't. To be worn for a month after being confirmed? Deal? ;D