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Can you name current fighters who seem to disdain the notion of cherry picking?
Some guys simply don’t know what the notion of cherry picking means . They take on all comers. Sometimes, they pay dearly for it, but not always. One obvious choice to me is Jermain “Bad Intentions” Taylor. Heck, he fought Bernard Hopkins twice and Kelly Pavlik twice. That’s enough for an entire career. But he also duked with Arthur Abraham, Carl Froch, Jeff Lacey, Cory Spinks, Kassim Ouma, Ronald “Winky” Wright, an undefeated Daniel Edourad, William Joppy, Sam Hill, Grady Brewer, and in his very first fight, Chris Walsh (17-4-1 coming in). Only one of his opponents had a losing record (it was 3-4). If you add up the won-loss records of his opponents, the combined result would be eye brow-raising.
Bottom line: Jermain Taylor does not know what cherry picking is all about.
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Juan Manuel Marquez
Shane Mosley
Manny Pacquiao
Tomasz Adamek
Jhonny Gonzalez
Antonio Tarver
Paul Williams
Timothy Bradley
Joshua Clottey
Juan Diaz
Michael Katsidis
Rocky Juarez
Rafael Marquez
Israel Vasquez
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Re: Can you name current fighters who seem to disdain the notion of cherry picking?
Glen Johnson immediately comes to mind.
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I'm trying to remember who Zab Judah has ducked and no names come to mind.
Jhonny Gonzalez fights everyone he can.
Edison Miranda also fights whoever comes his way.
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I can't stand him, but Kelly Pavlik.
I know someone will say he ducked Williams, but I really don't think that was the case. He's said repeatedly that he would fight him but that he doesn't think the fight can get made.
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CFH
I can't stand him, but Kelly Pavlik.
I know someone will say he ducked Williams, but I really don't think that was the case. He's said repeatedly that he would fight him but that he doesn't think the fight can get made.
Yeah, the Williams thing and the Sergio Mora thing. I'm still waiting to see him back out the Martinez fight tbh.
Chris Arreola ducks noone.
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Re: Can you name current fighters who seem to disdain the notion of cherry picking?
Vic Darchinyan will fight a HW if they would let him...
Glen Johnson has never ducked anyone.....
Shane Mosley...Pacquiao...Winky Wright.....
Still though I think DLH easily holds the most impressive resume of the last 20 years easy in terms of quality opponents faced in a row
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DaxxKahn
Vic Darchinyan will fight a HW if they would let him...
Glen Johnson has never ducked anyone.....
Shane Mosley...Pacquiao...Winky Wright.....
Still though I think DLH easily holds the most impressive resume of the last 20 years easy in terms of quality opponents faced in a row
JMM has to be giving his a run for his money, fought both p4p #1 fighters of his day (Mayweather, Pacquiao x2), the #1 Lightweight in the world (Casamayor), the #2 Lightweight in the world (Diaz), the #1 Featherweight in the world (John), the #2 Featherweight in the world (Juarez), throw in solid challenges in Jandaeng and Jaca, that's a pretty solid consistent resume, even if these guys don't have the star power of ODLH's resume.
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killersheep
I'm trying to remember who Zab Judah has ducked and no names come to mind.
Jhonny Gonzalez fights everyone he can.
Edison Miranda also fights whoever comes his way.
First i'd say shane mosley, winky wright, emmanulle augustus or burton...
secondly I wouldn't say Zab ducked Mosley, but he mysteriously hurt his hand and got out of that fight then less than a month signed to fight clottey...and in that fight tried to fake his way out of being stopped by citing he couldn't see because of a headbutt when it was clear that it was punch..
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Sorry but Pavilk CLEARLY ducked Williams. You don't cancel a fight with someone and schedule a fight with a much lessor opponant 3 weeks later. Clear cut case of ducking I don't care how many times he says he'll fight williams.
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Kid thunder. He'll fight anybody anywhere no matter what the weight difference is :D
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DaxxKahn
Vic Darchinyan will fight a HW if they would let him...
Glen Johnson has never ducked anyone.....
Shane Mosley...Pacquiao...Winky Wright.....
Still though I think DLH easily holds the most impressive resume of the last 20 years easy in terms of quality opponents faced in a row
Oscar by all means!
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I would definitely agree with Jermaine Taylor, if only all fighters took on all comers like him. Pacman is definitely another.....
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killersheep
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DaxxKahn
Vic Darchinyan will fight a HW if they would let him...
Glen Johnson has never ducked anyone.....
Shane Mosley...Pacquiao...Winky Wright.....
Still though I think DLH easily holds the most impressive resume of the last 20 years easy in terms of quality opponents faced in a row
JMM has to be giving his a run for his money, fought both p4p #1 fighters of his day (Mayweather, Pacquiao x2), the #1 Lightweight in the world (Casamayor), the #2 Lightweight in the world (Diaz), the #1 Featherweight in the world (John), the #2 Featherweight in the world (Juarez), throw in solid challenges in Jandaeng and Jaca, that's a pretty solid consistent resume, even if these guys don't have the star power of ODLH's resume.
For sure Jmm is another guy...I tend to forget abt Jmm because he is such a quiet fellow...You don't see him doing many appearences on Shows interviews etc
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I think there's a lot of fighters being named who you could make arguments have cherry-picked or avoided certain fighters. Let me be clear, these aren't all points I agree with, but Pacquiao has been accused of ducking Mayweather, Guzman and Campbell & he most definitely cherry-picked with David Diaz. Mosley has been said to have avoided Mayweather and Paul Williams. JMM has been accused of avoiding a fight with Amir Khan (I know), even a guy like Adamek has been accused of avoiding a rematch with Steve Cunningham. I think to say someone hasn't cherry-picked you have to come up with a guy who there could be no possible argument about him avoiding somebody, which for me boils down to
Glen Johnson
Vic Darchinyan
Winky Wright
Jermain Taylor
Jhonny Gonzalez
Carl Froch
Chad Dawson
Now, at least 2 of those guys (Vic & Froch) I dislike with a passion, however they have consistently taken on the toughest out there. I think Devon Alexander & Tim Bradley also show the potential to be chasing the toughest fights and ducking nobody.
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Almaz Assanov, 1-7, has fought Sod Looknongyangtoy, Saohin Srithai Condo, Somsak Sithchatchawal and Ratanachai Sor Vorapin.
Their total won-lost record coming against Assanov was an eyepopping 199-24-1. Assanov has to be the toughest fighter in the world with a 1-7 record.
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Alphonso Gomez. Curiously, he can tell his grandcildren that he retired both Gatti and Castillo.
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Having a good resume and not being a cherry picker do not neccesarily go hand in hand.
Pacquiao has a great resume with a long list of quality names BUT he is absolutely 100% a cherry picker. You only have to hear Roach speak to know that.
Agreed about JT - When everybody was pissing on him for his bad performances, I was thinking "but look at who the Fcuk he's fought!" ;D
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A lot of fighters mentioned Malignaggi, I can't think of any he's cherry picked or ducked
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Unfortunately I think some top fighters will see Taylor as an example of what happens when u take on tough opponent after tough opponent. he went from arguably the top young fighter in the world to shot and pretty much finished in a few short years.
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Re: Can you name current fighters who seem to disdain the notion of cherry picking?
All of the above mentioned and Ali Funeka just came to mind due to me bitching about Guzman in the other thread.;D