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it's in spanish but well basically says that Emanuel Steward will be training Miguel Cotto for his upcoming fight against Yuri Foreman, is this a good thing or a bad thing?
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Pelea antes de la pelea - El Nuevo Día
it's in spanish but well basically says that Emanuel Steward will be training Miguel Cotto for his upcoming fight against Yuri Foreman, is this a good thing or a bad thing?
Good thing. I love Steward.
Good news for Cotto.
Manny is no yes - man for starters :), and he might be able to improve Cotto's defence and maybe bring his confidence back.
I personally don't think Manny makes a huge difference but i sure hope he does.
Smart move by Steward. Foreman is garbage. Plus rolling with Cotto is better for his bank account than rolling with the Jew
Yeah he will get paid, but that won't last long because against any of the top WWs and cotto will be smashed into instant pugilistic dementia
He's fighting Foreman at 154. Once he smashes him, he becomes a title holder. I doubt he ever goes back to 147Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
well he won't last long up there if fights sergio or paul..Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe's fighting Foreman at 154. Once he smashes him, he becomes a title holder. I doubt he ever goes back to 147Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
i don't think Cotto is as far out of it as others seem to thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherwell he won't last long up there if fights sergio or paul..Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe's fighting Foreman at 154. Once he smashes him, he becomes a title holder. I doubt he ever goes back to 147Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
If and when he beats Foreman he should try to get a fight with JCC jnr, good money low risk fight.
I think this is a bad partnership, Steward's style of teaching IMO doesn't suit Cotto's style.
You do know Cotto beat Mosley right? You're acting as if he's not a top WW himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
I tend think you may be right. However, I can't imagine it being worse than where he came from! I think there may be a good pyschological boost for Cotto just having all that experience, especially in the corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
GREAT NEWS!!!
I'm happy for Cotto!!!
That was before the hard mileage ass whooping he took from margarito...a rematch with mosley would all but end his career...Quote:
Originally Posted by amatYou do know Cotto beat Mosley right? You're acting as if he's not a top WW himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
im with you on this one. cotto is pressure fighter. stewarts style is counter punching. look at what happend to jermaine taylor and kermit cintron. the counter punching didnt suit their style.IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
I agree that Steward's style may not be a perfect fit for Cotto's but I think highly of both and believe it will work out. Everyone's quick to say Miguel is done before the 2nd KD he gave Pac all he could handle and with a better game plan could have made it into a heck of a fight. I think Miguel outpoints Shane today in a 116-112ish fashion. I've never seen so much hype around a guy who could hardly outbox Mayorga. Sure he knocked out the stone foot remarkably slow Margarito. Oh well it'll all come to a crashing end May 1.
Mr. Steward ruined Tommy Hearns by keeping him a welter too many years and when he went up in weight, he was lucky to take his power with him to some extent but Steward didn't train Tommy to last. Marvin Hagler and Iran Barkley and Iran Barkley were examples of overconfidence and not enough endurance at Middleweight. He trained his fighters in 90degree heat at Kronk Gym year round. I forget the name of the fighter from Puerto Rico that Hearns won the title from but he couldn't crack an egg with his fists and Tommy trained by Steward resorted to winning on a bicycle.
Nobody's sure about how much gas Cotto has remaining but one thing is for sure: If we go back on the question, there is not many coaches as great as Mannie around and Cotto finally put his hands on one that will force him to work hard and to rethink some of his strategies, that and to learn to fight differently if needed. A very good thing for him.
Cotto has not got too long left, his face get battered very quickly and I do not think he is motivated to carry on any further. He probably wants to win another title at the higher weight, defend it a couple of times against big name opponents, maybe Floyd and retire.
Great newz man
It's not like Cotto needs much to beat ForemanQuote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by Taeth
Another jewel from you, Taeth. Just exactly what the hell do you mean by that? Steward is a trainer. Cotto is a boxer. Steward adjusts styles and points out weaknesses. Cotto is supposed to implement these adjustments. Exactly where does the bad partnership part come in? Please enlighten me. I don't think i've EVER agreed with a single damn post you've ever made.
:rolleyes:
Well there's some pros and cons here. Steward excels with rangy boxers focusing on working on the jab and keeping distance. Klitschko, Hearns, Lewis are success stories from him. I don't know that, that style will be the most opportune for Cotto in this particular fight where he needs to be the brawler to get to Foreman, who in my opinion has faster hands and better foot movement, but can't crack an egg.
Steward will definately crack the whip more which will be a huge benfit for Cotto, but may also become a source of friction. One thing is for sure you won't see a silent corner in the championship rounds.
Overall I wouldn't say it's a bad move, and I don't think in training there will be that big of a benefit. But I would say during the fight Cotto should be in a better place with Steward there.
I agree that Steward's successes have come mostly with tall, rangy fighters. Cotto is neither. But Steward IS (at least in my opinion) one of those rare teaching masters of the boxing game, who can probably examine Cotto's strengths and weaknesses and exploit or improve them as he sees fit. I think a lot depends on Cotto himself, as you may have hinted to in your post. Is he willing to be taught and corrected? Is he willing to let Steward take the reins and be "the man"? If so... Cotto could experience a surge in his already great career. If not... well, the future for Cotto might not be so bright. Matter of fact, I'm of the opinion that Cotto with Steward in his corner might have been a lot more competitive against Pacquiao, and probably would've had a chance to pull off the victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
The problem with Steward is that he's getting older, and I think dementia is starting to set in, as viewed and heard in many of his more recent ring commentaries.
How this will effect his ability to train Cotto is an unknown factor. I'll guess we'll just have to wait and see. However, I am concerned with Manny's recent reasoning skills.