Well, well, well
who'd have thought it :scratchchin:
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Well, well, well
who'd have thought it :scratchchin:
It just shows that white European fighters are often more effective in the amateur code or in MMA. Abraham just lacks the handspeed, footwork, athleticism, ring generalship to really make it, into the top, top ranks of fighters. He was ALWAYS gonna have a hard night aganist a slick guy like Dirrell. All Abraham does is just march forward and try and impose his will and strength on his opponent. These white European fighters Froch, Abraham and Kessler have all been exposed and hey !! I don't even rate Dirrell that highly. They have all been WAY WAY over rated. Kessler, Froch and Abraham were the three leading favorites before the tournament started, I guess that's looking pretty silly now.
Froch aint lost yet ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200
You are living in a fog......
Abraham was about to get sparked so his corner knew he needed help. The corner dumped a bucket of water on the canvas in between rounds, knowing that Dirrell migrated to the corner. When Dirrell went over to the corner and slipped and fell, Abraham saw his opening and sucker punched him. It was going to be the only way Abraham could land a substantial shot.
I just read on the internet the commission is investigating Abraham's corner for purposely pouring water on the logos to make them slippery.
Abraham should be suspended, not just for the sucker punch but for his reaction afterwards and no remorse. Someone must have got his ear cause at the post fight he was oh so apologetic and wishing Dirrell was ok and that he didn't see his legs on the ground.
Far cry from "He is not a boxer he is an actor!"
Your like Floyd Mayweather thinking that having an *O* on your record is the be all and end all. The truth is, not only could Froch have easily lost against Dirrell but he could have also lost against Taylor too and even his champship fight aganist Jean Pascal was close. I thought Dirrell beat Froch BUT I don't think it was an outragous decison to give the fight to Froch. People focus to much on the *O* you seen what happened with Kelly Pavlik, Ricky Hatton so an *O* don't mean much. It just sells the fights better. What does mean a lot is who you have fought and if you have fought good fighters how have you got on against those top fighters. The fact is Froch hasn't shown himself to be way superior to world class fighters. Your argument is the equvilent of a horse who wins by nose, or a basketball teams wins by a last second clutch shot and then claims that they are the greatest.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HFroch aint lost yet ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200
Woah! He only said Froch hasn't lost. He didn't talk about the importance (Or lack of it) of an unbeaten record.I think you are having an argument with yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200Your like Floyd Mayweather thinking that having an *O* on your record is the be all and end all. The truth is, not only could Froch have easily lost against Dirrell but he could have also lost against Taylor too and even his champship fight aganist Jean Pascal was close. I thought Dirrell beat Froch BUT I don't think it was an outragous decison to give the fight to Froch. People focus to much on the *O* you seen what happened with Kelly Pavlik, Ricky Hatton so an *O* don't mean much. It just sells the fights better. What does mean a lot is who you have fought and if you have fought good fighters how have you got on against those top fighters. The fact is Froch hasn't shown himself to be way superior to world class fighters. Your argument is the equvilent of a horse who wins by nose, or a basketball teams wins by a last second clutch shot and then claims that they are the greatest.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HFroch aint lost yet ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200
....me, any fight with Laurence Cole as the Ref I have SERIOUS doubts about. Say what you will about Joe Cortez, but he hasn't done half the shit Larry Cole has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I second that!;DQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HFroch aint lost yet ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200
People are focusing way to much on the end of the fight and not the whole fight as a whole. Who gives a rats ass about froch, mayweather, euro vs american fighters, blah blah blah. There was two men in the ring last night one won one loss. Congradulations to one who one and let that be the end of it. Look on boxrec it shows the result of last night. Not all the other crap people are trying to throw in it. Abraham would be lucky if he won a damn round. He was getting his ass beat and that's that. Could have been in vegas could have been under a tree in ghana, they could have put up a ring in abrahams back yard and last night he would have loss. Direll outsmarted him, was way to fast for him, caught him by surprise with all the switching, didn't tire himself etc.....He was the better fighter last night and he won. Bottom line. Just look at the scoreboard. There doesn't always have to be a reason and excuse or mayweather name thrown into every boxing discussion....geeeeezzzz. He's so much like rush limbaugh everyone hates the damn guy yet the people that hate him make him the richest, of course being undefeated is so important, or so many people wouldn't have such a hard on to see him loose, apparantly even if he cheated in the process. Congrats direll, pretty much no one gave you a chance and last night showed why every fight is up in the air and usuallly worth watching.
Personally I think there should be a rematch. Dirrell will be a little bit slower in his next fight and Abraham will be able to spark him faster.
Abraham is a whiny bitch, complaining about low blows that weren't low, and then because of the hate of Dirrell/America in general, somehow his DQ punch was justified because of how Dirrell acted afterwards.
Unreal...................what the fuck is your guys problems?
Look at the first 10 rounds of the fight was it any different than Pac/Clottey or Khan/Kotelnik? No not at all Abraham plods around and biitches to the ref every chance he gets. Dirrell was boxing beautifully in this fight last I saw on the punch stats he had thrown over 550ish punches and that was in the 6th round while Abraham had managed a meager 150ish. Clottey must be a legend to you guys walking forward behind and high guard and not doing shit.
Tell you what let me punch you in the head while your hands are up and then you can get into the splits and use your arms for balance and I'll hit you with that same punch, let's see how you react.
Yup ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanWoah! He only said Froch hasn't lost. He didn't talk about the importance (Or lack of it) of an unbeaten record.I think you are having an argument with yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200Your like Floyd Mayweather thinking that having an *O* on your record is the be all and end all. The truth is, not only could Froch have easily lost against Dirrell but he could have also lost against Taylor too and even his champship fight aganist Jean Pascal was close. I thought Dirrell beat Froch BUT I don't think it was an outragous decison to give the fight to Froch. People focus to much on the *O* you seen what happened with Kelly Pavlik, Ricky Hatton so an *O* don't mean much. It just sells the fights better. What does mean a lot is who you have fought and if you have fought good fighters how have you got on against those top fighters. The fact is Froch hasn't shown himself to be way superior to world class fighters. Your argument is the equvilent of a horse who wins by nose, or a basketball teams wins by a last second clutch shot and then claims that they are the greatest.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
I thought Dirrell beat Froch as it happens
I Believe you could suspend Abraham for the late shot but leave the post fight antics out of the equation. Think about any athlete after an unnesscessary roughness type penalty they give you the not me routine whihc is what Abraham did. Also it was right after the incident and he was clearly extremely frustratedQuote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
I was hoping Anthony Dirrell would mop the floor with that prick Alex Abraham who must not have been there last night or he would have been involved in something.
That actually surprised me. He was being a straight pussy with all that complaining. Fool took a shot to the elbow and fukking complained. :vd: He was damn near begging for a point deduction. Dirrell did the right thing when he jumped on him when Abraham was trying to sell itQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
The phantom low blows are nothing new for Abraham, Dirrell was fast enough to stick shots under his elbows but in the post opponents haven't been and he's deflected there shots into his own groin and complained about it.
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Originally Posted by BIG HFroch aint lost yet ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200
Let's be honest...Regardless of what is on paper Froch lost to Dirrell....IF/When he faces Ward he will lose...Unlike Dirrell Ward is a bit more productive on output on top of the rest of his skill....
As for the rest of the post by Denilson I don't think anyone has been exposed...If anything the only shocker was the Kessler loss...I won't even say the loss as much as the fashion in it happened....
AA and Froch were not exposed nothing about them or their skill set that was not known already had been exposed....
AA never a fast starter or fighter with much gusto...Basic style is all...He waits till opp is a bit less energetic then imposes his will....IMO he just never been in with a guy of Dirrell's speed...
Froch is another one easy to figure out...He wants to fight rather then box...He is not a slick fighter with tricks up his sleeve...
Nothing wrong with it just not rounded in style
soon he will...;DQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HFroch aint lost yet ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200