Quite surprising predictions on the RJJ Hopkins fights

Calzaghe, Toney, McGirt and Johnson give predictions on Jones-Hopkins


"I think if Roy still has it, he can win on points. Either way it will be close and I would be surprised if there is a stoppage."
-Joe Calzaghe, Unanimous decision over both Hopkins and Jones.


"I like both of them, but if I would have to bet I'd pick Roy because of his slickness and speed. Bernard is crafty but I think Roy is going to be sharper and quicker in this one. Roy in a decision."
- Winky Wright, Decision loss to Hopkins


"Jones has more speed and more power than Bernard. Jones by decision."
- Glen Johnson, Jones KO 9th Round


"Roy will outbox Hopkins and win eight rounds to four."
- James Toney, Decision loss to Jones


"Roy Jones will outbox Bernard. Roy in a decision."
- Buddy McGirt, Former World Champion

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Originally Posted by skel1983

Calzaghe, Toney, McGirt and Johnson give predictions on Jones-Hopkins


"I think if Roy still has it, he can win on points. Either way it will be close and I would be surprised if there is a stoppage."
-Joe Calzaghe, Unanimous decision over both Hopkins and Jones.


"I like both of them, but if I would have to bet I'd pick Roy because of his slickness and speed. Bernard is crafty but I think Roy is going to be sharper and quicker in this one. Roy in a decision."
- Winky Wright, Decision loss to Hopkins


"Jones has more speed and more power than Bernard. Jones by decision."
- Glen Johnson, Jones KO 9th Round


"Roy will outbox Hopkins and win eight rounds to four."
- James Toney, Decision loss to Jones


"Roy Jones will outbox Bernard. Roy in a decision."
- Buddy McGirt, Former World Champion

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I think these guys must have been in a deep sleep for the last 5 years.

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by skel1983

Calzaghe, Toney, McGirt and Johnson give predictions on Jones-Hopkins


"I think if Roy still has it, he can win on points. Either way it will be close and I would be surprised if there is a stoppage."
-Joe Calzaghe, Unanimous decision over both Hopkins and Jones.


"I like both of them, but if I would have to bet I'd pick Roy because of his slickness and speed. Bernard is crafty but I think Roy is going to be sharper and quicker in this one. Roy in a decision."
- Winky Wright, Decision loss to Hopkins


"Jones has more speed and more power than Bernard. Jones by decision."
- Glen Johnson, Jones KO 9th Round


"Roy will outbox Hopkins and win eight rounds to four."
- James Toney, Decision loss to Jones


"Roy Jones will outbox Bernard. Roy in a decision."
- Buddy McGirt, Former World Champion

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I think these guys must have been in a deep sleep for the last 5 years.

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I second that!

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Originally Posted by skel1983

Calzaghe, Toney, McGirt and Johnson give predictions on Jones-Hopkins


"I think if Roy still has it, he can win on points. Either way it will be close and I would be surprised if there is a stoppage."
-Joe Calzaghe, Unanimous decision over both Hopkins and Jones.


"I like both of them, but if I would have to bet I'd pick Roy because of his slickness and speed. Bernard is crafty but I think Roy is going to be sharper and quicker in this one. Roy in a decision."
- Winky Wright, Decision loss to Hopkins


"Jones has more speed and more power than Bernard. Jones by decision."
- Glen Johnson, Jones KO 9th Round


"Roy will outbox Hopkins and win eight rounds to four."
- James Toney, Decision loss to Jones


"Roy Jones will outbox Bernard. Roy in a decision."
- Buddy McGirt, Former World Champion

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These predictions must have been from 2002.;D

I think they must of got together with Calzaghe racked up a few lines and then made their predictions.

Roy went down to a shot to the side of the head from Green, so if that is his weak point, that'll be ideal for Hopkins, who tends to go forward with the earmuffs, then naturally throw punches more to the side of the head than down the middle.

Even if we accept the Green fight was a complete freak, I still think Hopkins has aged much better than Jones, and will do enough to get the decision.

I'd be amazed if Jones won!

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Originally Posted by BIG H

I'd be amazed if Jones won!

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So would I, these guys must have been told to say this shit to make the fight seem more plausible :p

I agree with their predictions. Roy by decision...he may even surprise us and knock Hopkins out; doubtful, but one can hope.

On the Killersheep's thread, I did bet on Roy solely using my heart and not my mind, I am very surprise all these champions are thinking he'll get it as it's against all logic.

....perhaps they are hyping the fight???

I personally see Hopkins stopping Roy in 3 just because B-Hop is going to want to carry Roy for a round or two IMO

But how could it end up being competitive or how could Roy end up winning? I think with the way B-Hop fights IF he shoots his wad early (and he very well could) it could be EXTREMELY competitive starting in the middle rounds with Roy coming on late as he gains confidence.

B-Hop usually starts slow and wins the late rounds...if I'm Roy I am on the bike early after landing 1 maybe 2 big punches. I try to enduce that big sweeping overhand right from B-Hop and counter it.

Roy can't let the fight "get ugly" and he can't play possum or let B-Hop stay in range. Roy either has to be outside or really close and if he's really close you can bet he will get fouled.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

....perhaps they are hyping the fight???

I personally see Hopkins stopping Roy in 3 just because B-Hop is going to want to carry Roy for a round or two IMO

But how could it end up being competitive or how could Roy end up winning? I think with the way B-Hop fights IF he shoots his wad early (and he very well could) it could be EXTREMELY competitive starting in the middle rounds with Roy coming on late as he gains confidence.

B-Hop usually starts slow and wins the late rounds...if I'm Roy I am on the bike early after landing 1 maybe 2 big punches. I try to enduce that big sweeping overhand right from B-Hop and counter it.

Roy can't let the fight "get ugly" and he can't play possum or let B-Hop stay in range. Roy either has to be outside or really close and if he's really close you can bet he will get fouled.

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3 rounds ? lol

I love Hopkins but when was the last time he stopped anyone ?

Roy is the worse for wear here, but he still has great hand speed, just not great legs anymore.

I know he's the underdog between the two, but I'm going to agree with the fighters here and pick Roy by decision.

I feel he can out box and out work Hopkins. He should make Bernard come to him.

Bernard loves it when guys come at him, Tito, Tarver, Pavlik, so Jones should play the counter puncher in this one and make B-Hop come forward.

Jones has not got a hope.

Theres always hope when you were once the greatest boxer of all time and your facing a 45 year old man.

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Originally Posted by Hulk

Theres always hope when you were once the greatest boxer of all time and your facing a 45 year old man.

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That is getting on for ten years he hasn't beat a world class ranked fighter for nearly 7 years, Hopkins will beat him comfortably.

Sounds odd here but the only way I can see Jones jr winning is if Hopkins allows it....you know,gets him hurt and pisses around,trys to 'punish' him...gets arrogant ( a stretch I know :-X) and plays too cute looking for perfect set up.He hurts him,he needs to end it right then and there!He has blown chances in past,a hurt and Imo a there to be tko'd Taylor in first fight comes to mind.Roy needs the ropes now,get him ring center and turn him into head shots,legs will follow.

Physically Jones is far past it,never really had the boxing 101 fundamentals to fall back on after reflex,legs and speed deminished.....but he is cagey smart,a true proven professional and heavily doubted....very bad combination.

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

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Originally Posted by skel1983

Calzaghe, Toney, McGirt and Johnson give predictions on Jones-Hopkins


"I think if Roy still has it, he can win on points. Either way it will be close and I would be surprised if there is a stoppage."
-Joe Calzaghe, Unanimous decision over both Hopkins and Jones.


"I like both of them, but if I would have to bet I'd pick Roy because of his slickness and speed. Bernard is crafty but I think Roy is going to be sharper and quicker in this one. Roy in a decision."
- Winky Wright, Decision loss to Hopkins


"Jones has more speed and more power than Bernard. Jones by decision."
- Glen Johnson, Jones KO 9th Round


"Roy will outbox Hopkins and win eight rounds to four."
- James Toney, Decision loss to Jones


"Roy Jones will outbox Bernard. Roy in a decision."
- Buddy McGirt, Former World Champion

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These predictions must have been from 2002.;D

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Bingo.

Im still hopeing Roy wins though ,so do the majority of the crowd at the weigh in by the sounds of it.

I really think, he will end up farting around and get caught doing it, he cant help himself and he's too slow now to get out of trouble.

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by skel1983

Calzaghe, Toney, McGirt and Johnson give predictions on Jones-Hopkins


"I think if Roy still has it, he can win on points. Either way it will be close and I would be surprised if there is a stoppage."
-Joe Calzaghe, Unanimous decision over both Hopkins and Jones.


"I like both of them, but if I would have to bet I'd pick Roy because of his slickness and speed. Bernard is crafty but I think Roy is going to be sharper and quicker in this one. Roy in a decision."
- Winky Wright, Decision loss to Hopkins


"Jones has more speed and more power than Bernard. Jones by decision."
- Glen Johnson, Jones KO 9th Round


"Roy will outbox Hopkins and win eight rounds to four."
- James Toney, Decision loss to Jones


"Roy Jones will outbox Bernard. Roy in a decision."
- Buddy McGirt, Former World Champion

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I think these guys must have been in a deep sleep for the last 5 years.

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Well you have to figure..

One is on Cocaine...One has been around the sport 1 time in 3 years....Another one has been hoping Chad Dawson will return his calls for yet another title fight and oblivious to anything besides his part time announcing job for warriors boxing...The other one is barely able to form complete sentences and figures MMA will improve his dain bramage....The last one has had the most successful run of ruining a fighters momentum in boxing history

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Originally Posted by Hulk

3 rounds ? lol

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Who thought Danny Green would waste Jones in 1?


I think Glenn Johnson may be angling for a rematch of his own and the way he's been fighting I would favor him over Hopkins!

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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3 rounds ? lol

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Who thought Danny Green would waste Jones in 1?


I think Glenn Johnson may be angling for a rematch of his own and the way he's been fighting I would favor him over Hopkins!

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:cwm13: going back for a hall of famer the likes of Jones jr makes cents....going back for a Johnson although a hell of a nice guy and deserved of a biggie...is another thing altogether.

Hopkins may be long in the tooth but he is lightyears away from being Yusef Mack

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Hopkins may be long in the tooth but he is lightyears away from being Yusef Mack

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It's true that Glenn 's tactics won't work on a seasoned vet like B-Hop who won't tire himself out or open himself up for big bombs, but the pressure Glenn piles on wouldn't be welcomed by B-Hop.

Glenn doesn't have many options left to fight neither does Hopkins, they'll both be on winning streaks and I think it would be a far more entertaining fight than this charade with RJJ

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by Hulk

3 rounds ? lol

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Who thought Danny Green would waste Jones in 1?


I think Glenn Johnson may be angling for a rematch of his own and the way he's been fighting I would favor him over Hopkins!

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No one thought Green would do that.

But Jones got caught with a good punch and a quick stoppage too.

Sure as hell wasn't a clean KO. It was similiar to the Calzaghe vs. Manfredo stoppage, where Jones was covering up blockin everything but not throwing back.

Hopkins isn't going to fight Johnson. There is no money in it.

Jones is going to surprise a lot of people tonight.

He's not coming to lay down.

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Originally Posted by Hulk

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by Hulk

3 rounds ? lol

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Who thought Danny Green would waste Jones in 1?


I think Glenn Johnson may be angling for a rematch of his own and the way he's been fighting I would favor him over Hopkins!

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No one thought Green would do that.

But Jones got caught with a good punch and a quick stoppage too.

Sure as hell wasn't a clean KO. It was similiar to the Calzaghe vs. Manfredo stoppage, where Jones was covering up blockin everything but not throwing back.

Hopkins isn't going to fight Johnson. There is no money in it.

Jones is going to surprise a lot of people tonight.

He's not coming to lay down.

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I don't think anyone ever thought Jones was coming to lay down...You can come to fight all you want but if the tools are not there they are not there....

If Jones does have the win hopefully he knows enough to run away with it and stay away

If Roy was wearing concrete slippers what chance would you give him, that's the chance I give him tonight, he's looked really bad lately, his last real win was against Lacy who had faded to C- status already when he fought him. B-Hop has shown he still has the athleticism and the caginess. If Jones wins this the fix is in and ODLH himself bet the lot on Jones.

Honestly...i think the main reason for these predictions is because most these guys don't personally like Hopkins all that much. The really sad thing for me is...if Hopkins wins via KO...it will in some way tarnish Roy's earlier win over him. I know Roy is completely shot now...but still...you don't want to get KOed by a guy you easily beat years ago with a broken hand. To see how Jones career has nose dived the way it has in the past few years is a really sad thing to witness. This is the same guy who in his prime was probably the most physically gifted boxer to ever live. But like almost ALL fighters...he has fought way past when he should have hung them up.

I think Hopkins will win but I'm just not too sure how effective he'll be if Jones fights off the ropes and counters him like he did to Lacey

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Originally Posted by zhubin

Honestly...i think the main reason for these predictions is because most these guys don't personally like Hopkins all that much. The really sad thing for me is...if Hopkins wins via KO...it will in some way tarnish Roy's earlier win over him. I know Roy is completely shot now...but still...you don't want to get KOed by a guy you easily beat years ago with a broken hand. To see how Jones career has nose dived the way it has in the past few years is a really sad thing to witness. This is the same guy who in his prime was probably the most physically gifted boxer to ever live. But like almost ALL fighters...he has fought way past when he should have hung them up.

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Agreed. Hopkins can be arrogant and disrespectful, people want him to learn a bit of humilty. Not sure if Jones can do that now though. Fingers crossed.