Looks like he might get the fat payday after all folks.
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Looks like he might get the fat payday after all folks.
Terrible state that heavyweight division is in. Just terrible. Ruiz offered nothing.
it sounded good all i could do was listen on 5live
9 rounds is ok.....I guess.
Bring on the rabid fanbase that thinks this guy will beat Wladimir :rolleyes:
Now please oh lord please will john ruiz leave us all alone ?? Congrats to haye. No where near a klitchko but a win is a win i guess.
Check you PM. Sharpish!Quote:
Originally Posted by cpss
Good win for Haye. Haye needed a win against a named fighter. Now a few more people will know who he is.
How do you think both Klitchkos would have done aginst Ruiz tonight then - what would be the prediction?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
Id be surprised if they stopped him
Pretty similar busted him up then the towel would of been thrown in mid to late rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by bornlivelifeHow do you think both Klitchkos would have done aginst Ruiz tonight then - what would be the prediction?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
Id be surprised if they stopped him
Lyle if this guy was american you'd be hanging off his nuts and so would the rest of the american public and fightwriters alike.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
That was one of the best heavyweight fights I have seen in a very long time, and why? Well it wasn't a slow paced hug fest that we've become acustomed to. Not to mention that at least one of the combatents came in to the ring in good shape.
Punches were thrown there were knock downs and plenty of blood and snot. Ruiz didnt offer much.. hmmm not sure i entirely agree... he kept coming forward, threw punches and attacked. Not his fault that his oponant was to slick to get hit.
Off the back of that performance I don't know that haye will beat either klit. But what I would say is he has a better chance and a lot more to offer than any other heavyweight out there.
He at least deserves a shot.
Is this fight on American TV :confused:
I heard something about it being replayed before the Jones-Hopkins PPV.
What American fighter has American fans (Lyle in particular) hanging on their nuts? What the hell does him not being from America have anything to do with anything? If Haye was American even more people would be saying he's a loud mouth prick, picking on has been heavyweights and circus freaks, and already backed out of fights with the brothers Klit.Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerLyle if this guy was american you'd be hanging off his nuts and so would the rest of the american public and fightwriters alike.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
That was one of the best heavyweight fights I have seen in a very long time, and why? Well it wasn't a slow paced hug fest that we've become acustomed to. Not to mention that at least one of the combatents came in to the ring in good shape.
Punches were thrown there were knock downs and plenty of blood and snot. Ruiz didnt offer much.. hmmm not sure i entirely agree... he kept coming forward, threw punches and attacked. Not his fault that his oponant was to slick to get hit.
Off the back of that performance I don't know that haye will beat either klit. But what I would say is he has a better chance and a lot more to offer than any other heavyweight out there.
He at least deserves a shot.
It was a good performance, I'm not going to take anything away from it at all. But I'm still not convinced that he's the be all end all, he is stating his case, gotta keep that momentum going now.
Ahh good for the twat...He got a stoppage against a rugged fighter I bet the VSB on just for hopes.....
Now that he has done that against a durable veteran...Lets see him against some prime hwts that are actually good!!!!!
OOOPPPSSSS...My mistake forgot the division we spoke of...
Well man up and fight a Klitschko...
I wonder How Haye would have done against a Prime Tyson?
I think with Vitali he would have gone rounds, but still lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by bornlivelifeHow do you think both Klitchkos would have done aginst Ruiz tonight then - what would be the prediction?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
Id be surprised if they stopped him
Against Wlad the result would have been very similar Ruiz was just walking right in and Wlad's straight punches wouldn't have missed at all.
I wouldn't mind seeing him in against a post prime Tua to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Yeah a Prime Tua hit harder then Tyson for sure...The speed is the part that would have been the killer...But it would be damn exciting sitting on the edge of the seat waiting for Tua to land that shot...Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepI wouldn't mind seeing him in against a post prime Tua to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
I think Haye deserves a lot of credit for that performance. He didn't just go out there and try blaze him out, he seemed to be methodically taking his time and he's definitely got Heavyweight power. I certainly don't see him beating Wlad, but I have a feeling that he can beat Vitali. That was also an exciting fight throughout, because even though Haye took the shots well it seemed, you always feel he could go. I'm not gonna use this to try degrade the brothers who don't deserve it, but that was a good fight & let's see them in with each other.
No sir! I don't pull for chickenshit fighters who talk trash and then run away. Wlad most certainly wants to fight him...the ball has always been in the WBA title holder's court and its up to him to follow through with making the fight happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
I am impressed by Haye, but I don't he ever steps in the ring with one of the Ukrainia's.
He'll say he has fight Valuev again b/c of a rematch clause
then he'll fight Hopkins or Adamek
then he will probably have putrid WBA mandatory again.
Wow, I had no idea how terrible of a boxer Haye is.
Seriously, he throws punches like a barfighting bum. He tries to keep his hands low and flashy like Ali, but he lacks the speed, accuracy and defense response. Ruiz would land punches on Haye as he tried to showboat, what a joke. I cannot see Haye beating a class fighter like Wlad or his brother. Especially if he fights like he did vs Ruiz.
Beating Ruiz is in no way claiming the right to fight either of the brothers. Beat someone like a fresh Tua then talk.
Also, those knockdowns, at least the 2 I saw were due to hitting in the back of the head, especially the one at the end of 2nd youtube video in the video link in this forum. Haye definitely catches him, maybe stuns him, but the knockdown results from being drilled in the back of the head. Getting hit there can ruin you. I dont care who you are.
Not impressed at all, Haye is definitely a b class fighter.
He might bring people excitement, but it is all hype.
If either Klitch loses to Haye I am going to pissed, there is no reason for it. It would be like Wlad being dumped by Sanders. Pathetic.
That is quite strong, but I kind of agree with you. I thought Haye looked impressive but it was such an old and pointless Ruiz and you are right in that he looked quite sloppy in places. Haye has that nasty habit of clubbing to the back of the head too. I don't know what the ref was doing after that second KD. He shouldn't have been counting. Utter nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by xael
Haye looked good, but I really feel that he is far too loose and makes too many mistakes to beat one of the Klits. I've a feeling we might be seeing the route suggested by Lance above. We won't see Haye in with a Klit in a hurry.
The last time Ruiz was stopped was against Tua wasnt it? So Haye is only the 2nd to stop him in how many years?Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Blimey!! All that written aften Haye WON!!Quote:
Originally Posted by xael
He beat the man in front of him quite convincingly by all accounts!!
Haye plans his fights and adapts. He will NOT fight either Klitcho like he fought last night. Just as he didn't when he beat the the giant Russian.
Credit where credit is due!
Well done David Haye!
well done to Haye , i didnt think he was that good at hw , im not getting to carried away , but was a good win anyhow.
read this forum for years, finally been forced into posting to have my say!
for some reason on here any english fighter is lucky/fighting bums etc, what more could haye do? outclassed him and sorry to burst all your little bubbles but the truth is if he lands on wlad or vitali they are going down :D
unsure why there is so much bitterness towards the brits! although if we had fat(fast) eddie as our number 1 heavywieght we would be upset too ;D
well done david, yet more doubters eating their words
LeftyLee is that you?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by safcsafc
;D
Its was kinda funny how the commentators Ian Darke And Jim Watt , went on and on about Haye , i actually picked Ruiz to out tough Haye , but lets face it , this was a 38 year old former champ.
Lets just take it as a good win for Haye , nothing more , i think Haye is exciting , in fact thats the most exciting fight Ruiz has ever been in.
All in all if Haye ever fights the brothers grim , then at least it will make people sit up and watch , and that my friends is what boxing is all about , like him or loath him David Haye is exciting.
Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleNo sir! I don't pull for British fighters. Wlad most certainly wants to fight him...the ball has always been in the WBA title holder's court and its up to him to follow through with making the fight happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
Haye would have already fought wlad if he hadn't got injured. Haye has done nothing to show any signs of cowardice. Remember This is boxing. It's a tactical thing. Anyone who doesn't think that last night's performance was a masterclass in how to control a fight off the back foot has never stepped into a ring before.
I was pretty impressed by Haye last night. My take on it RE the Klitschos is a bit of a contradiction though. In some respects I think I'm sure now that his speed and power could trouble either, but at the same time I am pretty certain now that he will get flattened by either. Basically I think his performance last night improved my opinion of his chances against them, but at the same time I think now I'm even more sure that they will KO him. That makes no sense. I think I'll go back to bed.
:confused::confused:
Still not convinced. Yes physically he is in a league of his own. He is indeed the hardest punching heavyweight that im convinced of.
But his alround game is far from perfect and if john ruiz can find his way through his guard as often as he did then the klitschko will have a field day if they ever get in the ring with him
Agree completely however with hornfinger. If haye was a yank there`d be a queue of americans on here now singing his praises through the roof
i don't post much on here but i have to agree with you on the commentators, they were ridiculous. I actually like haye but sayin hes the fastest heavyweight sinces Ali is just stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
does make you wonder what a stiff left jab would do with Hayes low lead hand...and btw they were calling Ruiz a dirty fighter before last nights fight, funny that. I also agree if Haye were american they'd be kissing his ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
.....not I madam! I do not root for such fighters. I do not base 100% of my opinion on nationality alone. I take into account fighting style, personality, and couth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
Ruiz is a tough SOB make no doubt's abt it...I was surprised at the stoppage...Hell the Tua KO loss Ruiz was caught cold in the first he did not even have a bead of sweat on him so that played a big factor on the 1 punch destruction.....Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyThe last time Ruiz was stopped was against Tua wasnt it? So Haye is only the 2nd to stop him in how many years?Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Haye is still a twat....Now we have to endure his sissy pictures of one movie or another where he uses a scene to add himself into and uses a super imposed Klitschko brother as his victim....
If Haye would shut up and do more fighting I would actually like the guy...Instead of trash talk then when it comes time pull out of the fights...
Yeah I would have to say...James Tillis was faster then Haye and a P{rime Tyson for sureQuote:
Originally Posted by the big Ki don't post much on here but i have to agree with you on the commentators, they were ridiculous. I actually like haye but sayin hes the fastest heavyweight sinces Ali is just stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
That really annoyed me aswell, haven't they ever heard of.Quote:
Originally Posted by the big Ki don't post much on here but i have to agree with you on the commentators, they were ridiculous. I actually like haye but sayin hes the fastest heavyweight sinces Ali is just stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Mike Tyson
Larry Holmes
Evander Holyfield
Tony Tubbs
Herbie Hide
Corrie Sanders
Were all faster than David Haye.
Have some rep because I can see it will more then likely be the only you ever receive here......Quote:
Originally Posted by safcsafc
Save the poor Brits being picked on shit for what ever hole you crawled out of....
No one here says Brits are just lucky/fighting bums etc....
Sure that was never said about Hatton...Not Said About Lewis....Froch...Calzaghe...and so on....
Tool
I agree, they were gushing over Haye.Quote:
Originally Posted by the big Ki don't post much on here but i have to agree with you on the commentators, they were ridiculous. I actually like haye but sayin hes the fastest heavyweight sinces Ali is just stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
I also think it is stupid to compare Ruiz to Ali, when talking about the potential of Ruiz being a 3X WBA champion.
Ali was a 3x undisputed world champion, and the wba title is like a minor title. And one of Ruiz's title reigns came when Lennox Lewis was THE undisputed heavyweight champion.
#1 Like that is a surpriseQuote:
Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut
#2 I found that quite humorous....you have to mention Holyfield in there too ;D
#3 Ruiz has NEVER been considered THE Champion....Chris Byrd had a little time as THE Champ but it ended quickly