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Couldn't decide which of the numerous Haye threads to post it in so figured I'd create another! ;)
For the record I have no doubt Haye will fight the Klits, he really does want to be unified champ. Very honest interview from Haye, admits to his flaws. Big props to Ruiz too, very gracious in defeat. He also says Haye is the quickeest he has ever fought...
Ruiz: "Haye is a Credit to British Boxing, Worthy Champ" - Boxing News
Haye is the best thing to happen to Heavyweight boxing in many a year for me. He has the speed of a middleweight and hits like a fukking truck. He completey dismantled Ruiz in clinical fashion. And for me, what was most impressive is that there is still alot he can improve upon. He isnt the finished article, but the few slight pieces that are missing are easily rectified.
Wow!! Faster than RJJ?? I doubt that but Hayes 3 and 4 punch combos were very quick and to say he had no sparring his timing was brilliant. Only thing that really stood out from his lack of sparring was his head movement, it was clear he hadn't been practicing his head movement vs a live opponent, so i can only see big improvement in his next performance, though it was a good performance anyway considering the disadvantage.
I'm really happy at the minute with what Haye has brought back to the glamour division, people are talking about the division whether they like Haye or not and he is in talks with HBO this week and is more than likely going to sign a contract with them so he may have to start fighting in the U.S. although I really hope he does fight at Wembley against one of the Klits soon I just see it being in America.
Hmm Ruiz must be suffering head injuries, the quickest he has fought was without a doubt roy jones. I saw the highlights and Haye has no where near the speed of Roy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conrad
To be fair Roy is the fastest fighter p4p the sport has EVER seen, and i'm just assuming that Ruiz was just accepting that everyone would realise he was talking as though Roy wasn't included in that theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeyHmm Ruiz must be suffering head injuries, the quickest he has fought was without a doubt roy jones. I saw the highlights and Haye has no where near the speed of Roy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conrad
Didn't used to like Ruiz, but he regularly proves he's a quality humble gent... Does not pretend he's a greater champ than he is and is humble with winning or losing...
Haye needs to step up now and silence all the critics.. Then take a bite of humble pie in his victory so that he can get a bit of respect outside the ring as well...
I must say I thought that Haye's entrance was probably the 'coolest' entrance I have ever seen. I dont mean the most spectacular ala Jones Jnr or Naz in their prime, there was no razzzle dazzle as he made his walk to the ring, just pure 'coolness' of the highest order. He reminded me of Eric Cantona after he scored that chip against Sunderland. He just had that awe, that air of coolness personified. He just looked around with his head held high, giving it the old, yeah, I'm the fukkng Daddy, everyone look at me.
Haye could have drank boiling hot water and pissed ice-cubes he was that cool. This type of charisma has been missing from the Heavyweight division for years. And it's badly needed in a division renown for being dull at best.
Maybe Ruiz has gotten so much slower in the years since losing to Roy that Haye seemed faster to him.
Yeah I'm sure he must of meant after Roy he's the fastest he's faced. Definately the quickest with power tho
The fact Haye is now seriously being spoken about in the same breath as Jones says it all, he looked very, very good on Sat night.
Haye doesnt have Roy's speed, but Roy was never a Heavyweight. Haye is lightening quick, and although certainly not one of the modern era's breed of superheavyweights, still is big enough to jusitfy his inclusion within the division. There is no coincidence that all of Haye's opponents at heavyweight have been caught completely out of the blue by his speed and hurt early on, usually within the first couple of punches thrown. His speed will cause serious issues for the big guys, and his punches carry some fierce snap. If his chin holds out, Haye is one seriously dangerous argument to contend with. I just hope he doesnt let it all go to his head like he did with Thompson, and slip up again. Hopefully he has learnt his lesson, because in this division, he will get hurt if he is not 100% focused.
Thats my worry, he doesn't get caught up in "Hatton Mania" as it should now be known. When a fighter gets caught up in his own abilities after being put on a throne by fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy G-Force
With that poor defence, the jab/ straight right combo from either Klitscho would be quick enough to get through and hurt him.
He seems a far more focused boxer now than years ago so I'm sure he can take the pressure and not lose the plot in the ring.
I'm sure haye will keep his feet on the ground.he seems too have a very solid team around him.I'm very impressed with Adam booth he seems a very straight up type of person and very tactically astute
Although he oozes campness, in a Glee kind of way. Anyone else think?Quote:
Originally Posted by paddy448
He isn't faster than Roy, watch both fight and its very clear. But he threw more combinations and he has a longer reach and Ruiz is 6 years older.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
Apparently Ruiz got hit so hard he forgot he ever fought Roy Jones Jr.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conrad
The real Roy Jones not the corpse we saw the other night.
And now all the Brits LOVE John Ruiz because although he's not an aesthetically pleasing fighter to watch he has CLASS which apparently no Brits have anymore or at least their boxers don't have anymore. In the US we have a bunch of thugs too but we also have some very classy fighters
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Originally Posted by 0james0Thats my worry, he doesn't get caught up in "Hatton Mania" as it should now be known. When a fighter gets caught up in his own abilities after being put on a throne by fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy G-Force
With that poor defence, the jab/ straight right combo from either Klitscho would be quick enough to get through and hurt him.
He seems a far more focused boxer now than years ago so I'm sure he can take the pressure and not lose the plot in the ring.
I also worry about Haye doing a bit to much "celebrity" work.
Fine when you're not in training, but to appear at Old Trafford on the day of a fight is a little casual for me. At least Haye won't balloon in weight like Hatton did/does.
He reminds me of Michael McIntyre.Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0Although he oozes campness, in a Glee kind of way. Anyone else think?Quote:
Originally Posted by paddy448
2nd 'straight' fella to admit watching Glee. What is the world coming to.Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0Although he oozes campness, in a Glee kind of way. Anyone else think?Quote:
Originally Posted by paddy448
BRITISH heavyweight champ of the world and no.1 contender to the klits, and did I mention he's BRITISH. Get over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
If Haye was from the U.S. he'd be the greatest fighter that ever lived.......FACT!;DQuote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerBRITISH heavyweight champ of the world and no.1 contender to the klits, and did I mention he's BRITISH. Get over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Good win for him but TBH I am tired of his endless talk....I can care less who is offended....I don't want to hear the Brit Bashing comments or Hater comments...
Haye has run his mouth from day one...Haye has talked about how great he is even before the KO loss to Thompson in 2004....
Thus far careful planning has gone into Haye's success thus far as in the choice of opp for him....At CW there was lack of anything to really test him except for Cunningham, he took a powder before a fight with Adamek could generate interest...
The win over Valuev while good because he won a title belt legit...But Valuev is a bum and everyone knows it...He was lucky and got gift decisions against Ruiz in Germany....
I would not be so hard on Haye if he did not talk so big and act so classless....Any so called CHAMPION who harasses another champion in airports at hotels etc like Haye has to Wlad...Talks all the shit he has about Vitaly then when had the opp to fight them BOTH found one way or another for the fight not to happen is not a fighter I would want to call world champion regardless of where they are from.....
I can talk shit, make computer generated pictures and claim to be the best as well but it doesn't make it so...
Haye needs to put up or shut up and if he REALLY wants to fight the Klitschkos no WBA mandatory will derail that....How many champions have given up titles to face the best and take what they have?.....To be the REAL champion you have to beat the other belt holders and claim the Ring strap...or at least beat the best guy in the division...Hell at least best 5 of the top 10!!!
It starts here
http://www.chessbase.com/images2/2002/klitschko05.jpg
and ends here
http://www.swissbudo-portal.ch/wPort...schko55_gr.jpg
Both have made perfectly understandable they will MAKE time on their schedules...
HAYE NEEDS TO MAKE TIME ON HIS
Until then he is a loud mouth trying to not only convince the public but himself of what he is saying is true
That's what I thought, but then again who would have a better assessment, us watching on TV or the guy in the ring with him?Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkApparently Ruiz got hit so hard he forgot he ever fought Roy Jones Jr.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conrad
The real Roy Jones not the corpse we saw the other night.
Haye isn't Ali or Tyson when it comes to speed, but I saw someone on here (almost certainly ICB) actually say Larry Holmes had quicker hands. I mean c'mon now. He's easily the quickest HW out there right now.
He's got fast hands, he's got fantastic mobility compared to all the fat plodders who just march at the Klitschkos in straight lines, he comes at you from lots of different angles, he's got good power at heavyweight. He's got a hell of a lot more going for him than any other not-put-together-in-a-laboratory heavyweight out there. And he speaks excellent English for somebody who comes from south London.
No one was faster then RJJ.
But good respect from Ruiz to Haye.
David Haye is an overblown cruiser weight.
At heavy weight, he's a bum.
What time did the De Lorean turn up?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Whirlwind
Honest to God just reading the title of the thread I thought this was going to be all about Andy Ruiz Jr trolling the shit out of Anthony Joshua HAHAHAHAQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWhat time did the De Lorean turn up?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Whirlwind
Haye was a top fighter , some punchers suffered bad hands , Haye of course was plagued with brittle toes.
Yes instead of the joys of victory he suffered ..... the agony of da feet :biglaugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al