Ok want to make sure we got everyone over here.
Killersheep
Heavyweight and Bantamweight
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Ok want to make sure we got everyone over here.
Killersheep
Heavyweight and Bantamweight
Cruiserweight
JoeyUK - Welterweight :cool:
Pound For Pound & Light-Middleweight
Violent muthafukking D. Flyweight divisions.
Si........Jr.Welter weight and all around nice guy:cwm13:
Lightweight & Straw
Smw
Hi guys, things have come up that are going to limit my time on here. Therefore I will not be able to post votes or do the updates until everything is sorted.
I'm sorry, because it is a great system & was just starting to take shape. If votes are put up I will do my best to participate but can't make any promises...
Just throwing a general idea out there, should we put it up to a vote if the #1 in a division faces the #1 in the division immediately below him. The thought of the likely Pavlik-Martinez fight got me thinking about this.
I see Martinez as a better challenger for the Championship at Middleweight than some of those in the Top 5 at the weight.
I'm not saying it should become automatic, but that we put it up for a vote every time. Imo, it should only be the top guy in the division below who gets this, but I just wanted to get the rest of your opinions & then I'll put it up for a vote.
Hope all is well bud...hurry back when the dust has settles.
Thanks Jaz, your a top bloke! The latest update looks superb! I usually PM killer with the updates to, so he can make the changes.
Thanks brutha, will still be trying to watch the fights every week but just don't have the time to prepare the updates & votes...
Don't want to be a broke ass, but does anyone ever wonder if life is like in the matrix movie? Where we don't won't to be happy, so our existence is programmed with struggles?
Can I join in this boys???
I'm a jive brutha:pimp2: & will vote weekly
This week's votes. If you want any new votes, just put them up & PM me or Killer & we'll put them in here.
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...illo-drop.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ool-160-a.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...t-manager.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...serweight.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ked-140-a.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ked-122-a.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-february.html
As long as you never again refer to yourself as a jive brutha, I'm happy for you to join in ;D
We'll have to put it up for a vote, so you won't be able to vote till next week & if you don't vote regularly.
We've currently got 3 open divisions, for you to be a manager in (your vote would be worth 2 in this division), which is your preference?
Light-Heavyweight, Super-Featherweight or Super-Bantamweight?
Middleweight :cool:
What's this all about then?
I'm submitting this vote on a proposal from a few weeks ago. It is this.
That if a fighter if the #1 fighter in a division fights a guy who is #1 in the division directly below, then it should be put up for a Championship vote in the same way as a #1 vs #5 in the same division. I'll give two examples.
If Timothy Bradley's next fight was against Juan Manuel Marquez then I feel that on the basis of them both being the best in their divisions it should be eligible to be voted on as a championship fight. Equally, should Sergio Martinez sign to fight Kelly Pavlik as expected next week, then I feel that is an even more worthy Championship fight than any presently available to us in the Top 5 of the MW division.
I basically think that with so many fighters moving divisions, it is an additional way of creating champions when the best fights get made.
Hope that is clear.
I like the theory, but I think there should be some kind of stipulation like a unanimous vote or something like that.
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...hts-147-a.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...main-pool.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ship-vote.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...arco-drop.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...chit-fall.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...t-9-140-a.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...t-9-122-a.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ight-pool.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...nter-pool.html
The vote is passed unanimously for respective divisional #1s to be championship fights
I wanted to start a discussion on an idea. I think if a fighter beats another RANKED fighter that is lower ranked, then that should trigger a vote for the winner to move up one spot.
For example, Edwin Valero ranked #6 beat Antonio DeMarco ranked #9, using our current system DeMarco was voted down one spot. Using the proposed additional system we would also vote to see if Valero moves up a spot in this case we would compare the merit of Valero at #5 vs. Katsidis at #5.
I think it's important to recognize fighters fighting other ranked fighters.
Also, since it just a trigger to vote to move up a rank or remain at the current rank it will be taken on a case by case basis. One problem I can see immediately is that it undermines the fight for the spot system a bit.
I definitely agree with this, with the proviso being only that it be for a fighter beating another ranked fighter as Valero has just done. Although I can still see an argument for Katsidis being ahead of Valero, even if I don't agree with it. I can't see one for Reyes, who's done nothing since that fight with Diaz.
I would be in favour of it being for possibly going up 2 spots, although I can see that being a problem. But I think a problem is that someone like Kendall Holt shouldn't be our #2 at 140, when he's done little in the last year, however a year is a long time in boxing & should he beat Kaizer Mabuza (22-6-3) he'll hold his spot and to me that wouldn't be fair to, for example, the Urango-Alexander winner who will have more noteworthy results in recent times.
This is a good idea holmes:thumb:
It should only b 1 spot
& by beatng a rankd fightr
Fight for your spot still remains intact
But better performances against rankd guys should b rewarded:cool:
Absolutely a great call.Dont know how we let it slip by all this time frankly.Good insight Greg.Always easy to give the conquered the scrutiny but even more so why should the victor of a ranked vs ranked remain idle....but is it a certainty that it will only one spot advanced?Regardless of fashion and foe defeated?
In an odd way it emphasis's (not to go all rainbows and puppy dogs on ya) a positive voting procedure as opposed to all of the demotions.Keeps the top tier moving and rewards.
Maybe we should require a certain amount of votes to approve it.As well...I think the manager of division should be allowed a bigger vote in matter.
Maybe we should require that the defeated have been ranked a certain length of time for it to be allowed?As to not 'encourage' voting pool members in last minute just prior to a fight.Cynical I know :cwm13:
What do you think about a manager being able to blackball it with a single vote. For example if the vote happened in the super feather division and Cleon didn't think it merited it, it would junk the whole vote, otherwise majority rules.
Also I hear what you are saying about future unintended consequences, and I agree we need a safeguard there as well. Perhaps the safeguard is as follows: "A pool member with a scheduled fight against a ranked member cannot enter the ranks on a vote until after the fight" That would pretty much eliminate that potential problem. This makes sense anyway because if he beats the ranked member he takes his spot.
This is a good rule, I think 2 spots should be the most for an outstanding victory, 1 for a win. Majority vote should decide imo...
I'm good with pool members not entering if they are set to meet a ranked fighter
Good stuff Greg, keep the top ideas coming
OK as discussed on the other thread this should be put to an official vote now. Options will be 1-2 place option, 1 place option only, no change
A vote for has the following implications
A fighter that is ranked and beats a lower ranked fighter will trigger
a vote to see if the winner of that fight moves up one spot.
1. Manager's vote still constitutes 2 votes in these cases.
2. A pool member with a fight scheduled against a ranked fighter can not enter the rankings by vote.
3. Majority vote determines if it passes
4. This vote cannot be used to determine a championship, any championship vote must follow our existing rules.
5. This vote will be further categorized into either a 1-2 place option or a 1 place option.
A vote against has the following implications
The rules remain unchanged.
Sounds good to me. I'm for it
Sounds good dude:thumb:
I have an idea for keeping the standard of fighters in the pool more accountable.
Instead of 'Date In' the category would change to 'Verified'
The verified date would give 6 months that a fighter gets to stay in the pool.
We would go through the weight classes one per week and see who has a verified date longer than 6 months and vote to see if they are worth keeping or worth dropping.
I'll use the heavyweights as an example.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...eavyweight.jpg
As you can see here, Denis Boystov and Alexander Dimintrenko have dates older than six months so we would vote whether to keep them in the pool or not. If we decided to keep them in the pool we would give them a 'verified' date of when the vote closes otherwise they would be removed to unranked status. If there is a week that noone in the weight class is up for a vote, we would move to the next weight class in this case Cruiserweight. Regular rules of voting to see if they stay in because of a loss etc. would still apply.
Any feedback and opinion is welcome.
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-cleaning.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ol-worthy.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-cleaning.html
I know I didn't catch much this week, but I wanted to get some votes on this.
I like the idea, let us keep a closer eye on pool members
Sounds prety jive;D
Wood da date show whn dey entrd???
Or whn dere nxt revew is du???
Could also use it to nomin8 a fightr 2 entr da pool:cool:
As discussed in a previous thread, I would like to change the 'Date In' to 'Verified' and begin a weekly rotation of keeping up with the pools in all the weight classes.