Personally, I'd go for his bollocks.
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Personally, I'd go for his bollocks.
Who?
Yes, I'm too lazy to Wikipedia him. Yes, I realize I could have Wikipedia'd him in the time it took to type this out.
I would :ninja:
He's a Tory, so I don't rate him too highly. The two main parties are both different sides of the same coin to me. Only the Lib Dems are suggesting anything remotely interesting to me and that is a wasted vote as they have no chance of becoming elected. Labour do not deserve to get reelected, but what alternative is there? Labour became well and truly bastardised and it's a shame John Smith died when he did. But maybe Labours transformation into Conservative-lite was inevitable. Who knows? I won't cry if the Tories under Cameron get in, but it isn't ideal.
There is no such thing as a wasted vote IMO, though sometimes you have to be strategic. If you believe in something you should vote for it. At worst, it will at least encourage those you vote for to keep trying to further their agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
If I was back home I would no doubt vote. The last party I voted for was Lib Dem and it would probably be the same again. I'm a Labour man at heart though, a traditional Labour man, so it's frustrating that the party simply doesn't represent nor talk to me. I'm sure there are others like me who are alienated Labour people who will have gone for the Lib Dem option. But to vote Lib Dem means that the Tories are more likely to get in as those votes are not going to Labour. I could continue my current fascist streak and support the BNP, but that would be a bit evil and I am really not all that evil. Though I do think that thieving Romanian gypsy children should be executed.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHThere is no such thing as a wasted vote IMO, though sometimes you have to be strategic. If you believe in something you should vote for it. At worst, it will at least encourage those you vote for to keep trying to further their agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
I don't know anything about British politics, are the Liberal Democrats to the left of Labour?Quote:
Originally Posted by milesIf I was back home I would no doubt vote. The last party I voted for was Lib Dem and it would probably be the same again. I'm a Labour man at heart though, a traditional Labour man, so it's frustrating that the party simply doesn't represent nor talk to me. I'm sure there are others like me who are alienated Labour people who will have gone for the Lib Dem option. But to vote Lib Dem means that the Tories are more likely to get in as those votes are not going to Labour. I could continue my current fascist streak and support the BNP, but that would be a bit evil and I am really not all that evil. Though I do think that thieving Romanian gypsy children should be executed.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHThere is no such thing as a wasted vote IMO, though sometimes you have to be strategic. If you believe in something you should vote for it. At worst, it will at least encourage those you vote for to keep trying to further their agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
That's an interesting question. Traditionally Labour has always been much more to the left than the Lib Dems, but I'm not sure that can be said for today nor in recent years. The Lib Dems were the only party opposed to the war and they are the only party suggesting a real harder line with the banking sector. So, if anything it just seems to me the party of common sense; especially compared to the other two dinosaurs. I found this on wikipedia, and you can go to the ideology and internal factions section and it says a bit about where the party stands.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI don't know anything about British politics, are the Liberal Democrats to the left of Labour?Quote:
Originally Posted by milesIf I was back home I would no doubt vote. The last party I voted for was Lib Dem and it would probably be the same again. I'm a Labour man at heart though, a traditional Labour man, so it's frustrating that the party simply doesn't represent nor talk to me. I'm sure there are others like me who are alienated Labour people who will have gone for the Lib Dem option. But to vote Lib Dem means that the Tories are more likely to get in as those votes are not going to Labour. I could continue my current fascist streak and support the BNP, but that would be a bit evil and I am really not all that evil. Though I do think that thieving Romanian gypsy children should be executed.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Liberal Democrats - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ah we think the same. I was going to say his throat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
Absolutely. Unless you are voting strategicly you should vote for what you believe in, even if it may be the only vote they get. Every vote says something. Plus its the only way for a party to develop. So your vote may not impact on this election but keep voting that way and hope that others join you in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHThere is no such thing as a wasted vote IMO, though sometimes you have to be strategic. If you believe in something you should vote for it. At worst, it will at least encourage those you vote for to keep trying to further their agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
[quote=ryanman;859945]PS I'm not advocating any particular party in that post.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHThere is no such thing as a wasted vote IMO, though sometimes you have to be strategic. If you believe in something you should vote for it. At worst, it will at least encourage those you vote for to keep trying to further their agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
But for the record I'll be voting Lib Dem but only as a strategic vote as Labour have no chance in my area.
On his head?
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Originally Posted by ryanmanPS I'm not advocating any particular party in that post.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
But for the record I'll be voting Lib Dem but only as a strategic vote as Labour have no chance in my area.
With the system the way it is I agree no votes are really wasted. After all you're not voting for who you want to run the country you're only voting for who you want to represent your own local constituency.
Here in Torquay the fight has always been between Conservative and Lib Dem, Labour only ever get a couple thousand votes down here. Lib Dems have held sway for the last couple elections. It's always been regarded that Adrian Sanders our Lib Dem has done a pretty good job, he came out ok in the Expenses scandal as well, no mud on him at least.
If I do vote I will vote Tory however, it's time for a change and I personally don't mind that Cameron is an educated Toff.
I've never understood this idea that those who have been educated at Eton or Oxford and have a silver spoon in their mouth from birth aren't qualified to understand the needs of the common man. To me that's bollocks, go through British history virtually all the great men were from priviliged backgrounds, those are the guys who actually run the country after all.
I like Cameron, he gets my vote. I don't want a man of the people, we have shitty pointless reality tv for that, what I want is a rich toff, with connections who can actually get things done and knows how the old boys networks actually work.
A once down at heel council estate living working class hero may understand the plight of the poor, uneducated Jeremy Kyle watching family but he gets no respect where it matters, with those in power and in the upper echelons of government and business.
Let a toff run the country and a working class hero appear on Britains Got Talent.
My election prediction:
Hung parliament with Labour holding the most seats and Brown forming a government!
It looks like a hung parliament with Tories Cameron holding most seats.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
It does but these opinion polls are normally biased in favour of the opposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIt looks like a hung parliament with Tories Cameron holding most seats.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Preferably over his dying corpse with a recently discharged .38 in my hand. Then I'd say something cool like 'still wanna hug a hoodie blad?'. Then SO19 would shoot me dead like the revolutionary freedom fighter I am.
My election prediction : a hung parliament and it doesn't matter who has the most seats, the parties are indistinguishable from each other. The Conservatives would be inclined to cut spending and Labour to raise taxes but there'll be no real substantive change, both guys are far too far to the left to do the country any good.
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Originally Posted by JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by JazMerkin
ooooh so manly
Personally i dont follow politics at all,but im voting anyone than Gordon Brown.Labour have always won the votes for at least 13 years but now i dont trust them at all.Politics bores the hell out of me but at the end of the day whoevevr win the next election could well change my life(hopefully for the better).I always used to vote for Labour ever since i turned 18 year old(11 years ago)but i only voted for them because the talked a good fight during their election campaign,though its clear their dont stand up to the mark anymore and their words are all bollicks.I always remember Gordon Brown stating about 2years ago,"British jobs for british workers!!":rolleyes:yeah right Mr Brown,is that why when the shit hit the fan and the recession kicked in that you shipped over Polish,German,etc employers,why we all got shot on the dole line!!!!My life has been made absolutely shit due the Labour tactics over the recession.Im still out of work and only getting a fw £s a week,i lost everything and struggling through life while these fat cats just talk a good game but initionally their wont feel the effects of what real normanl hard worker the keep thsio country afloat.
Im voting for Cameron due to the fact that we as Britain need a change in direction as we are a laughing stock of a country now and have been for years!!
Now heres a man who knows EXACTLY where i and every other unemployed working class citizen feel right at this precise pointQuote:
Originally Posted by yvonne
Hate to say it but this country needs a war, that`ll send them all back to poland and bulgaria in there droves
dont you deliver pop bottles or something?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerNow heres a man who knows EXACTLY where i and every other unemployed working class citizen feel right at this precise pointQuote:
Originally Posted by yvonne
Hate to say it but this country needs a war, that`ll send them all back to poland and bulgaria in there droves
Labour manifesto is now out
The Labour Party Manifesto 2010 | The Labour Party
Tory and Lib Dems to be released this week. Then we can see if there really are any key differences between the 3.
At the moment I am going to vote Labour based on 1 single issue: Surestart Children's Centres. Labour have commited to funding these, the Tories will not (yet) commit and thus will probably close them. It's a totally personal choice for me, coz my missus works for Surestart and if she loses her job if affects us directly.
2days a week if im really luckyQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missydont you deliver pop bottles or something?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerNow heres a man who knows EXACTLY where i and every other unemployed working class citizen feel right at this precise pointQuote:
Originally Posted by yvonne
Hate to say it but this country needs a war, that`ll send them all back to poland and bulgaria in there droves
Being priced out now by the larger firms who can hire the foreign workers in droves and they inevitably price out the competition
No incentive for me not to be on welfare/benefit other than the fact i simply dont wanna go down that road again
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Originally Posted by hattonthehammerNow heres a man who knows EXACTLY where i and every other unemployed working class citizen feel right at this precise pointQuote:
Originally Posted by yvonne
Hate to say it but this country needs a war, that`ll send them all back to poland and bulgaria in there droves
The Conservative Party - Helping people that already have the means to help themselves.
You two seem to be in situations where the last thing you need is a Conservative government. What about the Tories attracts you? Perhaps their plans to give tax breaks to double-millionaires?
Help the many and not the few - Vote Labour.
Always have been mateQuote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerNow heres a man who knows EXACTLY where i and every other unemployed working class citizen feel right at this precise pointQuote:
Originally Posted by yvonne
Hate to say it but this country needs a war, that`ll send them all back to poland and bulgaria in there droves
The Conservative Party - Helping people that already have the means to help themselves.
You two seem to be in situations where the last thing you need is a Conservative government. What about the Tories attracts you? Perhaps their plans to give tax breaks to double-millionaires?
Help the many and not the few - Vote Labour.
the standard tory government routine is simple. The poor stay poor, the rich get slightly richer
I know the image of me murdering David Cameron gave you an erection ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyQuote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
ooooh so manly
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Originally Posted by JazMerkinI know the image of me murdering David Cameron gave you an erection ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyQuote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
ooooh so manly
to be fair mate it did to me too ;D;D;D
in the excitement a little bit of wee came out. :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinI know the image of me murdering David Cameron gave you an erection ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyQuote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
ooooh so manly
Could be a side affect of the aforementioned ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missyin the excitement a little bit of wee came out. :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinI know the image of me murdering David Cameron gave you an erection ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
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Originally Posted by BIG HCould be a side affect of the aforementioned ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missyin the excitement a little bit of wee came out. :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
lol.
Tight as a drum mate.:cool: