Where does he go from here?
He's a top five heavy now I would assume. How does he do against the non-Klitschko heavyweights? Against the Klitschkos?
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Where does he go from here?
He's a top five heavy now I would assume. How does he do against the non-Klitschko heavyweights? Against the Klitschkos?
he already has a better resume at HW than Haye IMO, and i'd pick him to beat Haye for the strap, but i don't think that he beats Wlad or VitaliQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
There are some interesting fights even besides those three. Wouldn't mind seeing him against Povetkin or Chambers.
The answer: Haye-Adamek for one of the most entertaining HW fights in years, both are fun to watch, both come to fight, they are more or less both the same size, both pack a lot of power and speed, HBO, Showtime, somebody, hear my prayers and make it happen!
Avoid the Klitschko's and target Haye. I think he and Povetkin would make for a good fight.
I would take Haye to beat him, I think the Klits beat him to.
Pass the time while the Klitschkos and Haye sort things out and rematch Arreola in New Jersey on HBO.
i think that a fight between Adamek and Peter would probably be good
Against the Non Klitschko Hwts he is a force to reckoned with....I only seen the Estrada fight live with him and clips of the Golota beat down....So I was truly wondering how he would handle the weight difference and how he would handle the power of a true hard hitting HW...Arreola does have legit HW power....Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
There were a few scares but when we found out he had shoe issues lol....They taped it and He was back on his game....
I have been a fan of his since the Briggs fights....People said after his loss to Dawson he would not do much....He dominated the CW scene and now he is a force at HW......
Outside the Klitschkos he may be the best all around fighter...He has pretty good HW speed...Takes one hell of a punch...He shows his lateral movement and ring generalship....Has a decent shot I mean shit he battered Arreola who prior to Vitali never was beat like that.....
I want Adamek Haye!!!!!!!
My money goes on Tomaz!!!
I hear that. I'd definetly show up for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Well I think the best fight would be against Haye right now.Doesn't really matter because all roads lead to the Klitschko's and Adamek's road will stop there.
I'm not really that excited in him to be honest. I mean he's like a lot of others, capable of beating everybody aside from the Klitschko's, but it's a massive gulf between him and Wlad or Vitali.
He's best off targeting David Haye, against either of the brothers he just loses a dull one side decision, or else gets stopped late.
I think he knocks out David Haye though which would be fun.
But the trouble with the heavyweight division is that talent wise you have the Klitschko's on top like this
Wlad
Vitali
and then the rest are way down here. Worse still the one sided beat downs the brothers will put on them are in no way fun to watch either so really what you essentially have is a second tier, almost like a heavyweight championship lite going on.
None of them excite me really because they are all pretty mediocre.
I think Odlanier Solis will prove to be the best of them but that's dependant on him taking his weight under control, which is no sure thing.
I wouldn;t fight the Klits, make them fight each other or make one relinquish the title so that there is only one. Till then make fights with everyone else, like Haye, Povetkin etc.
Adamek vs. Haye makes the most sense...
Would be the most interesting fight too...Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
I think David Haye clearly has more TALENT than either Klitschko.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Adamek may have more as well.
But its the SIZE difference that sets the Klitschkos apart. That and they do have good power in their right hands.
In another era Adamek is a brillant heavyweight. I think right now he should fight someone else who got dealt with by a Klitschko.
If Calvin Brock was fighting I'd like to see that. Let Shannon Briggs fight Adamek if he wants to come back so bad.
Once Adamek got his shoe taped up things went rather smooove last night. Too bad for Arreola being so out of shape.
I'd also like to see Adamek Vs. Liakhovich.
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
I like that fight.
In my opinion Adamek should have to beat some more names before getting to fight Wladimir Klitschko.
Idk if I compare the Adamek/Arreola fight with the Klitschko/Arreola fight, it looks real bad for Adamek. Klitschko would kick his ass.
Adamek should try to fight a Haye. The question is who first? How about another fight against Banks? If he could get past Banks he would deserve a title shot.
Would Samuel Peter be interested in fighting Adamek? Would Adamek have a chance?
He really did well in keeping his head and being smart with Arreola.I really though he would get sucked into a give and take once he was stunned but impressed with his focus.He put shots together very well but showed he could be rocked whenever he stayed still,and Arreola while a big puncher cant put combos together to save his life.Arreola gets a lot of shit and some deserved but he was as good as hes going to be,there will never be a "in shape Arreola".They dont exist.If he was 225 it wouldnt make a world of difference...its his mentality and fighting style that gets him where he is.Haye/Adamek would be a great fight.Both offer much needed shots to the division and worked their way past the "blown up cruiser" label.Their legit...and I like Haye to beat him close.
he's already done more than Haye did to "earn" himself a shot at a HW titleQuote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorillaQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
I like that fight.
In my opinion Adamek should have to beat some more names before getting to fight Wladimir Klitschko.
I like Adamek. He's a breath of fresh air in a division that sorely needs it. Unfortunately, he ain't got the size to hang with the Klitschkos, and he's destined to be yet another one of the bunch. Still waiting for that HW that can put fear in the heart of the Klitschkos.
Adamek has some surprisingly nice defense, not saying he's a defensive master but he turns his head nicely into punches...I honestly don't think he was rocked or hurt to much by arreola's punches it's just that the force of them simply pushed him back...I don't think he can take either klitschko though , would love to see him in with haye, which would be a hell of a close fight probably, or povetkin which could be a war with adamek taking it late...last nights fight was the most exciting hw fight I've seen since lykovich brewster
True.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleshe's already done more than Haye did to "earn" himself a shot at a HW titleQuote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorillaQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
I like that fight.
In my opinion Adamek should have to beat some more names before getting to fight Wladimir Klitschko.
Adamek fighting Peter and others extends the joy. Adamek fighting Klitschko ends with Adamek losing and then just taking a step backwards. No one will care what happens to him after that.
Amen to that. I would even add that for the same reason we should postpone Haye-Adamek fight. I would rather see Arreola-Haye fight first.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
Adamek didn't have a lot of HBO coverage so far and he is 34 already - let him have his moment.
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorillaTrue.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleshe's already done more than Haye did to "earn" himself a shot at a HW titleQuote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
Adamek fighting Peter and others extends the joy. Adamek fighting Klitschko ends with Adamek losing and then just taking a step backwards. No one will care what happens to him after that.
Cant argue with that
He should progress with his attempt to build solid muscle as he sure as hell didnt look like a natural 217pounder saturday night almost being dwarfed by arreolas flab.
Some tune up fights with the likes of chagaev, chambers etc before moving on to the big boys ie:wlad, vitali, haye
Idk looking at Peter's last fight....that doesn't look like a fight Adamek should want. He'd be better off trying his luck against Chambers. Looks like Peter is fitter than Arreola and probably hits harder too. Adamek can dodge him I guess but for how long?Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorillaTrue.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleshe's already done more than Haye did to "earn" himself a shot at a HW titleQuote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
Adamek fighting Peter and others extends the joy. Adamek fighting Klitschko ends with Adamek losing and then just taking a step backwards. No one will care what happens to him after that.
Adamek has already done more then most in his short time...More then Haye has anyhow by fighting and beating a top 10 ranked HW...This was what his 2 or 3rd HW fight?....Unlike Haye who rested on his CW morals to get his shot..Quote:
Originally Posted by ludwig
I would like to see him fight 2 or 3 guys who will make him work but not be in danger of beating him so he can get used to the HW punches....In the Arreola fight he looked so light in the clinches he was getting a bit handled so maybe either Chris is stronger then we think or Tomaz is not quite comfortable yet at the weight....
No matter what I like the guy and think this is good for HW boxing...Getting more quality guys who are not massive and can make some good fights...
Too bad Sultan retired...
I actually was more impressed with Arreola's initial approach to the fight than Adamek's overall contribution. When he remembered to stay on the back foot, he was outboxing Adamek imo.
To be tottally honest, I only saw the 1st 7 or 8 rounds but I know that after 6 completed rounds, I had it 4-2 for Arreola.
Adamek must of really come on in the last rounds. Either that or Arreola went to shit?
What happend ???
Well the injury certainly didnt help the situation for Arreola, although I Adamek still likely would have won.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimboogie
Besides a few in the early-middle, I thought Arreola lost every round.
Yeah me too, then we found out he had a shoe malfunction ha ha...(Is that a first in boxing?)...Once taped up all went well...Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
How embarrassing for Everlast the makers of his shoes he was wearing....
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnYeah me too, then we found out he had a shoe malfunction ha ha...(Is that a first in boxing?)...Once taped up all went well...Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
How embarrassing for Everlast the makers of his shoes he was wearing....
A few years back on ESP2 there was a fighter that needed his shoes taped up because he had no traction. I forgot who it was, but I'm pretty sure we talked about it on here.
Not the same, but still...
More than a few years ago...
Found an article. I hadn't joined the site yet it seems.
Pacquiao wins a super featherweight title - Boxing - ESPN
I remember that...The guy fell like 4 or 5 times because he just kept having his feet come out from under him...One time he missed a big hook and went down...Can't remember the fighter but do remember the fight...Think they were a new brand or not his I can't rememberQuote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorillaQuote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnYeah me too, then we found out he had a shoe malfunction ha ha...(Is that a first in boxing?)...Once taped up all went well...Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
How embarrassing for Everlast the makers of his shoes he was wearing....
A few years back on ESP2 there was a fighter that needed his shoes taped up because he had no traction. I forgot who it was, but I'm pretty sure we talked about it on here.
Not the same, but still...
That was really unbelievable.Navarro punched the canvas and demanded to be counted out,mimicked the ref almost as he counted him out.Just nuts.Saw a Japanese Cruiserweight years ago,Nishinjima or something who used to wear 'slippers' ??? Some type of gear they used over there,one toe and looked soft all over.Weirdest thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnI remember that...The guy fell like 4 or 5 times because he just kept having his feet come out from under him...One time he missed a big hook and went down...Can't remember the fighter but do remember the fight...Think they were a new brand or not his I can't rememberQuote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorillaQuote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
A few years back on ESP2 there was a fighter that needed his shoes taped up because he had no traction. I forgot who it was, but I'm pretty sure we talked about it on here.
Not the same, but still...
Are you sure he wasn't a ninja?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FxoL3478Om...s400/slippers3
They are easily confused to be honest:
Ha...yeh alright ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by koppasAre you sure he wasn't a ninja?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FxoL3478Om...s400/slippers3
They are easily confused to be honest:
Thats the one.Guy could fight.Very fun style.Thought he went to heavy and then just vanished ?I have not seen that footwear over here prior or sence to my recollection.
This was his last ever boxing match - a devasting second round TKO to Cecil McKenzie in 2003. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pvoU64kKuU
Apparently he debuted in mma at Pride 31 - and got knocked out there too. His mma record is 0-5.
http://i43.tinypic.com/6h3kvr.jpg
He should probably knock it on the head now.
Oh thats nasty...especially to a rising McKenzie :fight:.Had not seen him since win at the L.A Forum vs Aguilar in 95' but always looked to take some shots,not shy about trading from the few I viewed of him.That Milligan fight when he was just starting was brutal war.Dropped ugly in the 1st,2nd and wobbled bad then bounced back to drop opponent,only to lose dec. Just another brick in the road of so many never to be's.Thanks for the info,wraps it up nice.Never knew he lost 5 in mma..ouch!!!