Poll : How would you rather lose a fight ??

Reading the great Amir Khan's twitter earlier about how he would rather be knocked out in 50 seconds than suffer a bad beating over 12 rounds got me thinking.

Ricky Hatton said a similar thing a couple of days after Pac destroyed him. Although a lot of experts, to some degree would agree - eg the fighter didn't take a psychological, careen threatening psychological beating that would be difficult to bounce back from - I put it to you how you would rather lose a fight ?

Kayoed quickly or suffer a 12 round one sided beating - am not saying this happened to Froch last night far from it. Am thinking of a beating like Lacy suffered to Calzaghe, Tua to Lewis, JMM to PBF etc..

Personally, no matter what happened, I would want to be standing when that final bell rang - aside from wanting to prove I just wasn't another bum from the neighbourhood, I wouldn't want people ripping the piss out of me for getting kayoed (have spent 30+ years telling people who impossible that is so would just be embarassing and I would probably have to emigrate you se....:-\)

I would rather take a beating then get KTFO, anyone who says different is not much of a man, I would like to go out fighting.

I guess there's an angle from how it would affect a fighter in career terms eg if young fighter not far in like Khan was

but yes - no way would I want a KO by on record

probably the quick k.o. After Tua, Ruiz hadn't got stopped til Haye. Khan got nailed by Prescott and seems to have come back in fine form. Lacy got owned over 12 by Calzaghe and appeared shot ever since, and Tua didn't really have the same lustre after Lewis.

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Originally Posted by lamble39

probably the quick k.o. After Tua, Ruiz hadn't got stopped til Haye. Khan got nailed by Prescott and seems to have come back in fine form. Lacy got owned over 12 by Calzaghe and appeared shot ever since, and Tua didn't really have the same lustre after Lewis.

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But he hasn't fought anyone yet?

The comment by Khan is one of the stupidest I have ever read. It wasn't even the fact he got knocked out in 50 seconds but wasn't he floored once before he got knocked out as well? How would you rather be embarrassed like that than lose over 12 rounds.

The bloke is an idiot and it is comments like those that is probably the reason people find it hard to warm to him.

Ok I accidently voted for the wrong one but just pretend I voted for the other.. I think Khan meant he'd rather take a quick KO than a long beating in terms of how it affects your career and your body, not in terms of reputation, and I somewhat agree with Khan. Taking a 12 round beating never truly leaves you, I mean we all know Lacy hasn't been the same since.. same thing with Cotto recently, after Margarito was done with him. It wasn't a full 12 round beating but it had the same effect. I'm sure there are loads of other examples too.

Where as if you've been sparked out in 50 seconds you haven't really experienced alot physically, and there probably aren't as much lasting effect, as shown with Khan, seeing as he's bounced back and won a world title afterwards, despite what you wanna say about weak match-making, he's certainly done well regardless.

I'd go for the 12 round beating but i would make sure i put everything out there and left nothing if im guna get beaten i want to make sure i look damn good losing!

thats what i'm saying though - you don't look good. You get a 12 round leson

but still standing ;)

But if you give it your all then id be fine with that.

I believe there is truth is what Khan said (given all considerations for long term health etc), but it sure isn't the type of thing one would want to say, especially trying to slag off another who just fought a tough long contest. It really does come off sounding like a fool and a wuss. But as we all know, talking isn't exactly Khans strong suit.

You rather get a quick KO believe me...The chances of long term trauma are much much less...Unless the KO is sincerely brutal...I mean BRUTAL...not 1 punch or a combo then out....The worst possibility is a bleed...Also if that happens it is easier for the Doctors to perform emergency surgery...

If it is over a long duration the brain not only takes little bits of trauma at a time but the brain has time to swell up as well the pressure on the skull is your biggest enemy...Doctors can not operate and a possibility the CT can miss the exact trouble sport until the swelling goes down....

Neither is recommended of course but you rather not take all the abuse as the long term beatings are what leads to being punch drunk

Everyone would pick 12 round beating even Khan but since he was KO ed quick he has to look at the positive which is he never took a beating. For his career it will be good in the long run.

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Originally Posted by Master

Everyone would pick 12 round beating even Khan but since he was KO ed quick he has to look at the positive which is he never took a beating. For his career it will be good in the long run.

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The 12 round beating in terms of wanting it because you would want to go out like a champion fighting till the end....But in terms of what is best health wise the short KO is best

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by Master

Everyone would pick 12 round beating even Khan but since he was KO ed quick he has to look at the positive which is he never took a beating. For his career it will be good in the long run.

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The 12 round beating in terms of wanting it because you would want to go out like a champion fighting till the end....But in terms of what is best health wise the short KO is best

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Agreed but psychologically you are going to be damaged and will have concerns about your chin and having to take the endless jokes about the china chin too will be a bitch to take.

Go down fighting for 12...

A shot like the one Hatton took def. caused some type of change in him.
I mean that seriously rearranged something in his body.

Khan's actual words were 'being bitch slapped for 12 rounds'.

I very much doubt being 'bitch slapped' for 12 rounds would do damage long term. ;)

I voted I'd rather lose a punishing fight over 12 rounds but on reflection I can see some of what Amir is saying.

I mean, although embarrassing, it's probably easier to rationalise a one punch KO loss as being a case of 'I just got caught with a shot I didn't see'.

Psychologically it's hard to say you just got outboxed and dominated round after round because of fluke punches or events.

I mean if you get beaten up over 12 rounds and completely outboxed it's hard to kid yourself you can ever come back and beat that person, but just being caught isn't about boxing ability as much as...well just being caught I guess.

I'm sure Lennox Lewis would rather have lost the way he did, freak knockouts two times which he avenged in style, than to be beating up for 12 rounds. He could dismiss the KO losses as lapses in concentration, bad luck, freak events etc, but to get beaten down, well the other guy was simply better than you.


In relation to the Froch fight however it's nonsense. Froch wasn't beaten down, it was a wildly entertaining, brutal two way action fight. Both guys wore their hearts on their sleeves and went to war. It was a treat to watch and Froch doesn't need to feel embarrassed at all.

Khan on the other hand, well that shit was humiliating.

But I'd agree with Khan probably in that Froch has had a lot more taken out of him over the past couple years than Amir has, although of course Froch has fought actual elite opponents who can punch as well.

I would prefer to go the distance and put up a fight though falling behind on the cards. Khan's comments are insulting despite him having no leg to stand on. Froch went 12 rounds and was relatively competitive with one of the top 3 in the division. Froch takes on anybody and over the past 2 years has really stepped it up. And there is little gay Khan saying he would rather be knocked out by a hard punching bum than go 12 rounds hard with one of the best? Another in a long list of ridiculous Khanisms. Khan will probably get stopped soon enough and Froch should unleash a verbal tirade about it.

I'd prefer getting stopped cold. More people have come back sudden one punch knockouts when getting caught cold or in the first round and won titles, kendall holt, sergio martinez, amir khan. But people that take sustained beatings over 12 rounds were never the same again. I've yet to see someone get thoroughly destroyed for 12 rounds and come back the same, but getting caught cold offers more comebacks ive seen.

Neither. Fukk that. I rather dominated my opponent and get DQ like Soto-Lorenzo

If you get flattened in the first with a brick you say ohhh lucky shot,temple or fluke.You def might get gun shy after and run the risk of being labeled chinny...not to mention you make every highlight reel on the sports shows and have everyone laughing at you,even little kids.

With a beating over 12 you may have people praise your balls and courage but also show that there was 36 minutes you had and you couldn't do a thing to change it or alter your game.I mean I already know I can take a beating,personally.Id say change up pace and knock me out right away.I'd say I had the flu or blame my socks.Didn't read what Khan said.Did it include "me chin is good"?

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Originally Posted by Majesty

I'd prefer getting stopped cold. More people have come back sudden one punch knockouts when getting caught cold or in the first round and won titles, kendall holt, sergio martinez, amir khan. But people that take sustained beatings over 12 rounds were never the same again. I've yet to see someone get thoroughly destroyed for 12 rounds and come back the same, but getting caught cold offers more comebacks ive seen.

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Diego Corrales was beaten for 10 rounds by floyd plus stopped, then managed to fight his way back to top 5 p4p status.

I guess its all subjective, don't really see how someone could take a beating for 12 rounds and not have the ref or corner stop the fight. What PBf did to Marquez wasn't a beating but just a sparring session. Usually a sustained 12 round beating involves two ass whooping being handed out and both are left worn for worse.

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Originally Posted by Majesty

I'd prefer getting stopped cold. More people have come back sudden one punch knockouts when getting caught cold or in the first round and won titles, kendall holt, sergio martinez, amir khan. But people that take sustained beatings over 12 rounds were never the same again. I've yet to see someone get thoroughly destroyed for 12 rounds and come back the same, but getting caught cold offers more comebacks ive seen.

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Barrera-Pacquiao 1. ALthough not 12 rounds but 11, Barrera went on to be top 5 p4p again and lineal champ at 130 and beating Morales, who then gave Pac a 1 sided beat down later, also with notable wins against Jaurez, Ayala, etc.

i'd rather just get knocked out instead of getting beat bad for 12 rounds. knock me out quick i'll yell it was lucky and also health reason. I'd rather take 1 hard 1 instead of getting beat like Lacy by Calzaghe or the way mayweather and de la hoya beat up Gatti. I just dont think 12 round beating is good i'd rather throw bolo's til i get a lucky shot or countered.

To be totally honest, I think i could live with being Sparked in one round.

Yeah infact, I'd rather be sparked out... At least then i'd know I was chinny and could adapt my style.

If I lost by a complete shut-out and brutal UD, I think it would destroy me knowing that what ever I tried was not good enough. Plus don't those sort of fights take more out of you as an athlete?

I say this but a lot of fighters in a similar situation end up quitting or getting pulled out before the 12th anyway.... My answer is based on the pressumption that quitting is out of the question.

I would never quit! :-\

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Originally Posted by skel1983

I would rather take a beating then get KTFO, anyone who says different is not much of a man, I would like to go out fighting.

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I'd rather get KOed by an awesome punch that everybody acknowledged would KO anybody. I.e Lewis vs Rahman - Lewis didn't lose much respect from that loss. It's gotta be worse to be schooled for 36 minutes and shown up as a lesser fighter than to get starched by a killer or lucky punch

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by skel1983

I would rather take a beating then get KTFO, anyone who says different is not much of a man, I would like to go out fighting.

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I'd rather get KOed by an awesome punch that everybody acknowledged would KO anybody. I.e Lewis vs Rahman - Lewis didn't lose much respect from that loss. It's gotta be worse to be schooled for 36 minutes and shown up as a lesser fighter than to get starched by a killer or lucky punch

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i agree. plus a sustained 12 round beating would take more out of u than a one punch ko. (i assume so anyway)


job biscuit (whats up with the lack of credit for the siesta)

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Originally Posted by skel1983

I would rather take a beating then get KTFO, anyone who says different is not much of a man, I would like to go out fighting.

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I'd rather get KOed by an awesome punch that everybody acknowledged would KO anybody. I.e Lewis vs Rahman - Lewis didn't lose much respect from that loss. It's gotta be worse to be schooled for 36 minutes and shown up as a lesser fighter than to get starched by a killer or lucky punch

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it doesnt take a man to stand there and take a beating for 36 minutes. A real man doesn't feel the need to prove he is a man by doing such.

I'll stay with a one punch knockout, at the very least it can take away from willingness to trade or make me aware of that shot if ever we should rematch, it can also work on confidence too, it takes more out of a fighter's confidence i think to get beatdown for the entire fight as opposed to getting starched by a "lucky punch"

A fighter can only be in so many wars before they are ruined.

As fans we prefer maybe watching a 12 round beatdown as opposed to a one hitter quitter, but when it comes to your own health, getting starched may well have been better then taking a continuous beating. A 'real man' may rather take a beating and prove everything in a day, but a 'smart man' knows there's always tomorrow and will prove more throughout a lifetime.

I'm suprised by these results. I'd rather get clocked early than spend 12 rounds getting mentally and ohysically destroyed.

I mean all you need to do is look at Khan now and Lacy now. I know who i'd rather be, despite looking like a fuckwit on twitter/real life.

I suppose with a very VERY early KO you can just claim that you walked onto a lucky punch and that had the fight of gone further you would of stood a better chance.

Im talking 1st 2minutes of round1 here, anything after that and its 100% certain you got knocked out by a far superior fighter

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Go down fighting for 12...

A shot like the one Hatton took def. caused some type of change in him.
I mean that seriously rearranged something in his body.

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I heard that it's cured him of that horrible disease which made him refer to himself in the 3rd person.

I believe boxers would prefer not to have a KO loss.

Wayne McCullough pleaded with the doctor not to stop his fight with Oscar Larios because he was so proud of his never been down or stopped record.

Paulie Malignaggi fully accepted Hatton was gonna beat him but protested he shouldn't have a TKO on his record.

Chris Eubank always points out his stoppage loss was due to a closed eye and would have continued if the doctor let him - says nothing to do with his chin.

Lennox Lewis argues he was never knocked unconcious, he was stopped on his feet.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I believe boxers would prefer not to have a KO loss.

Wayne McCullough pleaded with the doctor not to stop his fight with Oscar Larios because he was so proud of his never been down or stopped record.

Paulie Malignaggi fully accepted Hatton was gonna beat him but protested he shouldn't have a TKO on his record.

Chris Eubank always points out his stoppage loss was due to a closed eye and would have continued if the doctor let him - says nothing to do with his chin.

Lennox Lewis argues he was never knocked unconcious, he was stopped on his feet.

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ermm.....well he was wasnt he??

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Originally Posted by HattonTheHomo

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I believe boxers would prefer not to have a KO loss.

Wayne McCullough pleaded with the doctor not to stop his fight with Oscar Larios because he was so proud of his never been down or stopped record.

Paulie Malignaggi fully accepted Hatton was gonna beat him but protested he shouldn't have a TKO on his record.

Chris Eubank always points out his stoppage loss was due to a closed eye and would have continued if the doctor let him - says nothing to do with his chin.

Lennox Lewis argues he was never knocked unconcious, he was stopped on his feet.

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ermm.....well he was wasnt he??

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But everyone knows he wasn't fit to continue. It's a good example of the feelings boxers have about being sparked ;)

But there is a difference between being close to being stopped and allowed to continue and then going on to lose a competitive fight than being absolutely shown to be inferior in every department and schooled by a better man for 12 rounds.

What the mind wants: getting spark out as soon as possible so your brain doesn't suffer substantial trauma or extra injuries due to repeated blow to the head.

What the heart wants: To go up to the end all blood and guts and to stand firm no matter how bloody and intense the war was to show the whole world that you have some balls and courage.

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What the mind wants: getting spark out as soon as possible so your brain doesn't suffer substantial trauma or extra injuries due to repeated blow to the head.

What the heart wants: To go up to the end all blood and guts and to stand firm no matter how bloody and intense the war was to show the whole world that you have some balls and courage.

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This is basically it.

Well I wouldn't want to be koed like khan was by prescott....

I wouldn't mind being koed the way hatton was. Round 2 against pac was a brawl, not one way traffic at all, hatton went down fighting, no shame in that, and he lost to a potential steroid cheat, so definately no shame....

there is something to be said about getting to the end bell... I don't think I'd want to be humilated for 12 rounds in front of friends and family.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I believe boxers would prefer not to have a KO loss.

Wayne McCullough pleaded with the doctor not to stop his fight with Oscar Larios because he was so proud of his never been down or stopped record.

Paulie Malignaggi fully accepted Hatton was gonna beat him but protested he shouldn't have a TKO on his record.

Chris Eubank always points out his stoppage loss was due to a closed eye and would have continued if the doctor let him - says nothing to do with his chin.

Lennox Lewis argues he was never knocked unconcious, he was stopped on his feet.

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ermm.....well he was wasnt he??

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When it was waved off against Rahman, Lewis was on the floor. I watched it last night on KOTV on Channel 5.