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My Kessler - Froch Scorecard
R1 Kessler 10-9
R2 Froch 10-9
R3 Kessler 10-9
R4 Kessler 10-9
R5 Froch 10-9
R6 Kessler 10-9
R7 Kessler 10-9
R8 Kessler 10-9
R9 Froch 10-9
R10 Froch 10-9
R11 Froch 10-9
R12 Kessler 10-9
Total 115-113 Kessler
Very good fight.
Alot of really close rounds.
Either guy argueably won this fight imo.
Kessler's jab and bodywork were the key factors for him in that fight. He certainly was able to slow Froch down with his work to the body.
Froch showed some boxing ability and a decent jab.
Props to both guys.
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Re: My Kessler - Froch Scorecard
R1 Kessler 10-9
R2 Froch 10-9
R3 Kessler 10-9
R4 Kessler 10-9
R5 Froch 10-9
R6 Kessler 10-9
R7 Kessler 10-9
R8 Kessler 10-9
R9 Kessler 10-9
R10 Froch 10-9
R11 Kessler 10-9
R12 Kessler 10-9
Total 117-111 Kessler
I saw this fight twice. The live version with the UK commentators and the Show Time broadcast. It was unbelievable how the UK commentators were riding Froch. They didn't even try and hide there bias. If that was a radio broadcast I would of scored it 120-108 Froch off there commentating. Shiit was shameful
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Re: My Kessler - Froch Scorecard
Exactly....and that's what bothers me most about froch's post fight interview and the non-sense that is being spewed about from him and his camp. The fight was actually really good. As most of you know i'm not big on froch. Outside the ring drama aside i just don't think he's that great of a fighter. But reguardless of what i think the dude has done what he's been asked to do and that is to win. But last night he didn't and a simple congrats i'll get him next time was really all that was necessary. To say i could've won if i wanted is just retarded. Carl i could have won the lottery yesterday if i picked all the right numbers..so what. It's not about what you could have done it's about what you did do, and judges said you didn't do enough or at least more than kessler did not overall but last night when it mattered. He said himself he wouldn't get a decision in denmark, so why all the suprise. No road guy yet has won so doing the usual just isn't going to cut it in this tourny. Both guys put on a great show, sucks to always have these great fights dampered by this type of b.s. And sadly next weeks shane floyd fight will be no different. I would have agreed with either guy winning last night, to me the fight was that close. I don't think you really can have a wrong scorecard on this one. I actually agree with above and give both guy in ring props. Outside of it now that's a different story, i dont really take any of that into account.
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Re: My Kessler - Froch Scorecard
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Mar
Exactly....and that's what bothers me most about froch's post fight interview and the non-sense that is being spewed about from him and his camp. The fight was actually really good. As most of you know i'm not big on froch. Outside the ring drama aside i just don't think he's that great of a fighter. But reguardless of what i think the dude has done what he's been asked to do and that is to win. But last night he didn't and a simple congrats i'll get him next time was really all that was necessary. To say i could've won if i wanted is just retarded. Carl i could have won the lottery yesterday if i picked all the right numbers..so what. It's not about what you could have done it's about what you did do, and judges said you didn't do enough or at least more than kessler did not overall but last night when it mattered. He said himself he wouldn't get a decision in denmark, so why all the suprise. No road guy yet has won so doing the usual just isn't going to cut it in this tourny. Both guys put on a great show, sucks to always have these great fights dampered by this type of b.s. And sadly next weeks shane floyd fight will be no different. I would have agreed with either guy winning last night, to me the fight was that close. I don't think you really can have a wrong scorecard on this one. I actually agree with above and give both guy in ring props. Outside of it now that's a different story, i dont really take any of that into account.
You too, huh? Yeah I passed on winning this week. Didn't feel like counting millions. To much work.
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Re: My Kessler - Froch Scorecard
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Originally Posted by
Mar
Exactly....and that's what bothers me most about froch's post fight interview and the non-sense that is being spewed about from him and his camp. The fight was actually really good. As most of you know i'm not big on froch. Outside the ring drama aside i just don't think he's that great of a fighter. But reguardless of what i think the dude has done what he's been asked to do and that is to win. But last night he didn't and a simple congrats i'll get him next time was really all that was necessary. To say i could've won if i wanted is just retarded. Carl i could have won the lottery yesterday if i picked all the right numbers..so what. It's not about what you could have done it's about what you did do, and judges said you didn't do enough or at least more than kessler did not overall but last night when it mattered. He said himself he wouldn't get a decision in denmark, so why all the suprise. No road guy yet has won so doing the usual just isn't going to cut it in this tourny. Both guys put on a great show, sucks to always have these great fights dampered by this type of b.s. And sadly next weeks shane floyd fight will be no different. I would have agreed with either guy winning last night, to me the fight was that close. I don't think you really can have a wrong scorecard on this one. I actually agree with above and give both guy in ring props. Outside of it now that's a different story, i dont really take any of that into account.
LMAO, splendid answer man......
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Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
Just wanting to gauge a polled opinion from the Saddoboxing community on this one. Just a simple vote will suffice if you want (as long as you scored the fight properly that is).
I found it to be a very close fight with many rounds difficult to score. I watched it twice and both times scored it a draw (115-115 and 114-114 respectively).
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
I had Kessler up 6-5-1 with eleventh round even. I just couldn't see who actually pulled ahead. Kessler scored heavy early then Froch late. I could have easily seen it the other way too.The fight that is.
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
It was a very competitive fight, I scored it 117-112 (One round even)Kessler watching it live, although I was scoring close rounds in favour of Kessler as I figured he would get the hometown benefit, so I can easily see 115-113 Kessler.
I don't think Froch did enough to win though, that's a really difficult one for me to argue even as a Froch fan, especially over in Denmark.
I do think though that Kessler left it all in the ring and Carl didn't. At times Kess looked exhausted and bloodied, put would come on regardless whilst Carl looked composed, confident, imperious even but frustratingly wasn't throwing.
If he would have thrown more I think Froch would have taken the fight, but it seemed to me that Kess, maybe spurred on by the crowd and the fact he knew his career was on the line seemed to want it more.
I can't blame Froch though. I mean that's his fourth tremendously hard fight in a row, each of which he has to go life and death in the championship rounds to get the win.
It must get harder every time and I don't envy him having to fight Artur Abraham next in another must win fight for both men.
I think because of his style, by the time this tourmanent his over so will be Froch's effective career.
He's been in some ring wars that's for sure and he may well be like a post world war 2 Germany by the end of 2011.
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
God I have never seen such a clear cut victory questioned so much. The fight was clearly Kesslers, hometown or not. He forced the action, threw more, and landed more. He clearly out fought Froch. 116-112 is right on the money. If one eyed Froch fans have it close then thats a good indication Kessler won it fairly easily.
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
For those who give a care
My Scorecard
Froch 10 10 9 10 10 9 9 9 10 10 9 9 114
Kessler 9 9 10 9 9 10 10 10 9 9 10 10 114
That was while watching it the first time. I have not rewatched it yet, but plan to.
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
It was close but clear in Kessler favor if this makes any sense. I agree with Bilbo that Froch looked like he could give more in some rounds, especially after the 8th.
Pretty fair scorecards, I have it 115-113 Kessler but I’d understand any score between 114-114 and 116-112 in Mikkel favor. I don’t think it would have been any different in any neutral location. The referee did a very good job as well, so we have better referees than MBR.;)
Very good fight tough and the 12th round was ROTY so far IMO.
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
Just watching the first round right now, but heard the commentators "froch is starting to pick him apart " really. wtf
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
Just finished watchin and there were many close rounds, I guess the rounds that kess won he won more convincingly, but definitely lot of close rounds. He doesn't seem as crisp and precise anymore, lot of punches that 2 years ago would have hit froch right on the chin went of to the side....the right man won tho I think. froch just seemed to passive and content, kessler made that fight, its not like froch was dominating the excanges and entirely eluding kess by going back which is pretty much the only way to win a fight going backwards.
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
115-113, purely because of Kesslers determination in the 12th.
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Re: My Kessler - Froch Scorecard
1. 10-9 Froch
2. 10-9 Kessler
3. 10-9 Froch
4. 10-9 Kessler
5. 10-9 Froch
6. 10-9 Kessler
7. 10-9 Kessler
8. 10-9 Kessler
9. 10-9 Kessler
10. 10-9 Froch
11. 10-9 Froch
12. 10-9 Kessler
115-113 Kessler
Excellent fight, as much as I dislike Froch, he helped put on a great show, but Kessler deserved it for that last round, I loved Jimmy Montoya saying 'You go out there and win that fucking belt or you don't come back here at all'
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Re: My Kessler - Froch Scorecard
I'm just rewatching the fight as we speak for the third time, Froch's footwork is so bad its untrue. He's hardly ever got his feet set when he throws.... Great fight though. Kessler certainly won for me, those low straight rights he catches Froch with just under his elbow are beautiful.
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
I didnot score the fight but my overall impression watching on tv was that Kessler was getting the better of it.
When Froch stepped up his game and seemed to start to take over Kessler raised it to an other level again.
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
I had Froch, just. That was watching it on Primetime on my telly. I've yet to rewatch. Before anyone moans, i'm not a Froch nut-hugger. I like both fighters. I wanted Froch to win but my scorecard doesn't change the result so being bias would be pointless. I can handle him losing :p
I'll probably rewatch at some point, and maybe i'll think Kessler won. It was close anyway.
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
As anyone who has ever read my posts knows, I can't stand Carl Froch and thought he was the beneficiary of a disgraceful hometown decision against Andre Dirrell. But, that was a close fight, I think people saying he only won 2/3 rounds are off their rocker. He had it close and I have to say I was worried he'd pull out a stoppage in the last round as Kessler looked ready to go. Instead Mikkel came out and showed amazing heart to take that last one. Froch looked like he was willing to get hurt for the win, Kessler looked willing to die for it. Their body language at the end said it all about who won.
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
I had it 115-113 in a very competitive fight where the loser (Froch) definitely didn't lose face of value due to the packed action and the great heart he showed. IT is a clear but decision in a very tough and competitive fight for the Viking.
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
As anyone who has ever read my posts knows, I can't stand Carl Froch and thought he was the beneficiary of a disgraceful hometown decision against Andre Dirrell. But, that was a close fight, I think people saying he only won 2/3 rounds are off their rocker. He had it close and I have to say I was worried he'd pull out a stoppage in the last round as Kessler looked ready to go. Instead Mikkel came out and showed amazing heart to take that last one. Froch looked like he was willing to get hurt for the win, Kessler looked willing to die for it. Their body language at the end said it all about who won.
This is a good and fair assessment imo, as I have now watched the fight 3 times and agree with most of the quoted. my score card closed a bit in gap with each viewing but I'm afraid will will never get to, no matter how many times i watch it, a HTH view point.
p.s. You were missed in the chat room Saturday nite, Jaz. But CFH said you were likely just at a black panther rally tho, so it's cool. Next tie buddy.
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
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Youngblood
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
As anyone who has ever read my posts knows, I can't stand Carl Froch and thought he was the beneficiary of a disgraceful hometown decision against Andre Dirrell. But, that was a close fight, I think people saying he only won 2/3 rounds are off their rocker. He had it close and I have to say I was worried he'd pull out a stoppage in the last round as Kessler looked ready to go. Instead Mikkel came out and showed amazing heart to take that last one. Froch looked like he was willing to get hurt for the win, Kessler looked willing to die for it. Their body language at the end said it all about who won.
This is a good and fair assessment imo, as I have now watched the fight 3 times and agree with most of the quoted. my score card closed a bit in gap with each viewing but I'm afraid will will never get to, no matter how many times i watch it, a HTH view point.
p.s. You were missed in the chat room Saturday nite, Jaz. But CFH said you were likely just at a black panther rally tho, so it's cool. Next tie buddy.
I was obviously plotting the fall of the white supremacist power system, but I'm also having loads of problems with my internet connection at night (no doubt whitey trying to silence me). Hopefully it will be fixed by Saturday, although I may stay off just in case the Mayweather-Mosley fight causes the board to implode on itself.
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
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Originally Posted by
Nameless
I had it 115-113 in a very competitive fight where the loser (Froch) definitely didn't lose face of value due to the packed action and the great heart he showed. IT is a clear but decision in a very tough and competitive fight for the Viking.
I watched it properly for the first time today and I would go with that. But it was far closer than what that 117-111 judge was trying to suggest. That man needs darts to be thrown into his eyes as he obviously has no need for them. Froch could have won it it if only he had just let it all go. You can't go overseas and let anything hold back and unfortunately for him he just wouldn't throw enough. Kessler knew it was do or die and gave it his all, but I really didn't see all that much improvement on what he did against Ward. It was pretty much the same Kessler technically, just one willing to go that extra yard.
I agree with what CFH has said on other threads in that Kessler doesn't quite seem the same as a couple of years ago. He isn't as precise and doesn't seem to react as well.
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
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miles
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Originally Posted by
Nameless
I had it 115-113 in a very competitive fight where the loser (Froch) definitely didn't lose face of value due to the packed action and the great heart he showed. IT is a clear but decision in a very tough and competitive fight for the Viking.
I watched it properly for the first time today and I would go with that. But it was far closer than what that 117-111 judge was trying to suggest. That man needs darts to be thrown into his eyes as he obviously has no need for them. Froch could have won it it if only he had just let it all go. You can't go overseas and let anything hold back and unfortunately for him he just wouldn't throw enough. Kessler knew it was do or die and gave it his all, but I really didn't see all that much improvement on what he did against Ward. It was pretty much the same Kessler technically, just one willing to go that extra yard.
I agree with what CFH has said on other threads in that Kessler doesn't quite seem the same as a couple of years ago. He isn't as precise and doesn't seem to react as well.
I put that down in part to them fighting in a very small ring. Much less space for Kessler to use his excellent footwork. There was never a big gap between the fighters and everything looked a little smothered. In a larger ring, i think Kessler looks crisper and more in control as he'd have more room.
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
Also Kesslers gash along the eye looked huge. A really long slice of a wound. He's going to need plenty of time off to give that a chance to heal properly and it looked like it might have been in part from the previous Ward fight. That's unfortunate because it was probably caused by that 'son of god' chap who really should change his nickname to 'the battering ram'! Nasty looking wound. :-\
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
I thought it was close with a lot of tight rounds in there. I've yet to rewatch but the first time I thought 115-113 Kessler was about right. Hopefully there'll be a rematch at some stage
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
Kessler won't make it to the next round of the tournament.
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
I like Froch, I wanted Froch to win..badly, but he didn't do enough in my view. Kessler looked like he wanted it more. Having said that I thought Froch looked tired and drained walking to the ring. Caveat: watched via a stream that cut out for the 12th which I haven't seen yet.
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Re: My Kessler - Froch Scorecard
i watched the fight on youtube on my mrs iphone so only a small screen but i had kessler winning by a round or 2
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ICB's Unbiased Kessler vs Froch Scorecard
1 Froch
2 Kessler
3 Froch
4 Kessler
5 Froch
6 Kessler
7 Kessler
8 Kessler
9 Kessler
10 Froch
11 Froch
12 Kessler
Closer and a better fight than i remember 115-113 Mikkel Kessler.
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Re: ICB's Unbiased Kessler vs Froch Scorecard
Fair score IMO. It was just one of those fights that you can score in favour of either depending on what you look for. Maybe Froch being a little bit lazy and Kessler coming forward with combos swayed some rounds for some people. Kessler missed a lot of shots though and Froch, to me, looked like he was in control and landing effective counters in many rounds.
Like Froch said, if it was a fight over here he would have won it, so take it on the chin and move on in the knowledge that Kessler was always gonna get the nod over there.
Great fight though, watched it twice again this after noon and about 2 hours ago with the bitch. I hope they cross paths once more.
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Re: ICB's Unbiased Kessler vs Froch Scorecard
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Kel
Fair score IMO. It was just one of those fights that you can score in favour of either depending on what you look for. Maybe Froch being a little bit lazy and Kessler coming forward with combos swayed some rounds for some people. Kessler missed a lot of shots though and Froch, to me, looked like he was in control and landing effective counters in many rounds.
Like Froch said, if it was a fight over here he would have won it, so take it on the chin and move on in the knowledge that Kessler was always gonna get the nod over there.
Great fight though, watched it twice again this after noon and about 2 hours ago with the bitch. I hope they cross paths once more.
Is that u admitting Brtish judges are corrupt? The majority had it for Kessler so a Froch win would have been close to a robbery.
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Re: ICB's Unbiased Kessler vs Froch Scorecard
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Originally Posted by
eagle
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Originally Posted by
Kel
Fair score IMO. It was just one of those fights that you can score in favour of either depending on what you look for. Maybe Froch being a little bit lazy and Kessler coming forward with combos swayed some rounds for some people. Kessler missed a lot of shots though and Froch, to me, looked like he was in control and landing effective counters in many rounds.
Like Froch said, if it was a fight over here he would have won it, so take it on the chin and move on in the knowledge that Kessler was always gonna get the nod over there.
Great fight though, watched it twice again this after noon and about 2 hours ago with the bitch. I hope they cross paths once more.
Is that u admitting Brtish judges are corrupt? The majority had it for Kessler so a Froch win would have been close to a robbery.
No I'm not saying anyone is corrupt, the hometown fav is bound to get the win in a close fight and I think Froch knows that and took it well.
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Re: ICB's Unbiased Kessler vs Froch Scorecard
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Originally Posted by
Kel
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Originally Posted by
eagle
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Originally Posted by
Kel
Fair score IMO. It was just one of those fights that you can score in favour of either depending on what you look for. Maybe Froch being a little bit lazy and Kessler coming forward with combos swayed some rounds for some people. Kessler missed a lot of shots though and Froch, to me, looked like he was in control and landing effective counters in many rounds.
Like Froch said, if it was a fight over here he would have won it, so take it on the chin and move on in the knowledge that Kessler was always gonna get the nod over there.
Great fight though, watched it twice again this after noon and about 2 hours ago with the bitch. I hope they cross paths once more.
Is that u admitting Brtish judges are corrupt? The majority had it for Kessler so a Froch win would have been close to a robbery.
No I'm not saying anyone is corrupt, the hometown fav is bound to get the win in a close fight and I think Froch knows that and took it well.
Kessler deserved the win. Even some of Frochs most one eyed fans had a terrible time scoring enuf rounds to get Carl a draw let alone a win. The Ref and judges did a good job in Denmark compared to the ones in the UK for the Dirrel Froch fight. It was by far the best officiated fight of the tournament so far. Nottingham s probably the only place on Earth Carl would have won. I bet the scores would have been similiar in a nuetral venue.
Pretty much everyone non British on here and alot of Brits scored it for Kessler. I think that says a lot.
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Re: ICB's Unbiased Kessler vs Froch Scorecard
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Originally Posted by
eagle
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Originally Posted by
Kel
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Originally Posted by
eagle
Is that u admitting Brtish judges are corrupt? The majority had it for Kessler so a Froch win would have been close to a robbery.
No I'm not saying anyone is corrupt, the hometown fav is bound to get the win in a close fight and I think Froch knows that and took it well.
Kessler deserved the win. Even some of Frochs most one eyed fans had a terrible time scoring enuf rounds to get Carl a draw let alone a win. The Ref and judges did a good job in Denmark compared to the ones in the UK for the Dirrel Froch fight. It was by far the best officiated fight of the tournament so far. Nottingham s probably the only place on Earth Carl would have won. I bet the scores would have been similiar in a nuetral venue.
Pretty much everyone non British on here and alot of Brits scored it for Kessler. I think that says a lot.
Great. I ain't gonna spend the time to find them, so if you link them all instead instead of making sure all the cans of food in your cupboard are frontal, I'll read them.
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Re: ICB's Unbiased Kessler vs Froch Scorecard
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Originally Posted by
Kel
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Originally Posted by
eagle
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Kel
No I'm not saying anyone is corrupt, the hometown fav is bound to get the win in a close fight and I think Froch knows that and took it well.
Kessler deserved the win. Even some of Frochs most one eyed fans had a terrible time scoring enuf rounds to get Carl a draw let alone a win. The Ref and judges did a good job in Denmark compared to the ones in the UK for the Dirrel Froch fight. It was by far the best officiated fight of the tournament so far. Nottingham s probably the only place on Earth Carl would have won. I bet the scores would have been similiar in a nuetral venue.
Pretty much everyone non British on here and alot of Brits scored it for Kessler. I think that says a lot.
Great. I ain't gonna spend the time to find them, so if you link them all instead instead of making sure all the cans of food in your cupboard are frontal, I'll read them.
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-won-poll.html
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Re: Froch v Kessler - Who won? (Poll)
115-113 for Kessler. Great championship fight. I hope both continue on in the Super Six.