he now says he is better than Ali and Robinson......is it now OK to officially call him a major cock !
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he now says he is better than Ali and Robinson......is it now OK to officially call him a major cock !
BBC Sport - Mayweather makes Ali claim ahead of Mosley clash
he said this on the 24/7 show already..
are you surprised?
....when floyd comes out and says he's not better than somebody then i'd be surprised. There are amatures out there that belive they are better than ali, so what. Froch just got beat and still thinks he's better than kessler. Where's the thread for that foolishness ? Not like floyd just became a prick yesterday.
Yes but Floyd has been around the game long enough to know that he really is nowhere near the level of Robinson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
If Tommy Hearns was in his prime right now he'd destroy EVERYONE at 147 WITH EASE....Pac couldn't handle him, Shane couldn't handle him, and Floyd sure as hell couldn't handle him.
Let's put Floyd in perspective his biggest wins were Diego Corrales, Gennaro Hernandez, and Jose Luis Castillo....Floyd just recently got a MAJORITY decision vs a washed up De la Hoya.....if Floyd had trouble with OLD Oscar then you know damn well his ass would get destroyed by a PRIME Oscar!!!
I know Floyd is great and all but this type of bull shit make me happy that I will see Shane Mosley whip his ass on Saturday.
Robinson fought more times a month than Mayweather did a year... you really think he would keep his 0 if he fought almost 200 times?
Not forgetting he only ever fought for real world championships... not the alphabetty spaghetti we have nowadays.
Ali faced more adversity in a matter of years than Mayweather ever has or probably ever will in his whole entire career. fact.
Look at everyone getting so annoyed they're going to pay the $49.99 to see him get his arse kicked. ;)
My broadband connection doesn't even cost that much for a month.... I'm not going to bother working out how much an hour of broadbandto watch the fight will cost me - needless to say none of it will be going into money mayweather's broke pocket
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One image worth sometimes 1000 words.
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Bored of it all now to be honest
pbf isn't in the same league as ali or robinson. heck lamotta would plaster him.
Blame the times for that. Not Mayweather. Robinson had to fight a lot cuz he spend more money than he made. Plus the money was different back than. You add up all the fights Robinson had in let say 5 years and he still don't come close to making what Mayweather made in the Hatton or De la Hoya fight alone. I have no doubt if Robinson made 20 million a fight there is no way in hell he fights as much as he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Too bad Hearns is not around. but the sentence should have been like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Pac wouldn't handle him, Shane wouldn't handle him, and Floyd sure as hell wouldn't handle him.
If Tommy Hearns was currently fighting at welterweight he would have fought Paul Williams 3 times already
PBF beats hearns...just like SRL beat him. Wait, no he wouldn't stop him, but he'd def beat him..
Although I hate to disagree with you Lyle, I think Floyd would take a prime Tommy Hearns. But one thing I will say is Tommy would bring out the best in Floyd for sure. I also think the Oscar result would have been the same a few years earlier. Oscar always slowed down on the final stretch and thats what cost him vs Mayweather. It wasn't like Floyd was fighting the version of Oscar that Pac was and don't forget it was at 154lbs which is not Floyds weight at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleYes but Floyd has been around the game long enough to know that he really is nowhere near the level of Robinson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
If Tommy Hearns was in his prime right now he'd destroy EVERYONE at 147 WITH EASE....Pac couldn't handle him, Shane couldn't handle him, and Floyd sure as hell couldn't handle him.
Let's put Floyd in perspective his biggest wins were Diego Corrales, Gennaro Hernandez, and Jose Luis Castillo....Floyd just recently got a MAJORITY decision vs a washed up De la Hoya.....if Floyd had trouble with OLD Oscar then you know damn well his ass would get destroyed by a PRIME Oscar!!!
I know Floyd is great and all but this type of bull shit make me happy that I will see Shane Mosley whip his ass on Saturday.
Oh yes and don't forget you will have your new user name decided by me after Floyd beats Shane :)
he already said this on the 24/7 show he said he gets to a point of confidence every fighter has to have to where if you ask him is he better then Ali he'll say yes he's better then Ali, if you ask is he better then sugar ray robinson he'll say yes he's better then sugar ray robinson. Every fighter has a confidence in themself and if he can draw into it while making people hate him at the same time and get more buyers to the PPV more power to him. His haters make more threads about him then his fans so and always about the same stuff or comment he makes, give it a rest, Mayweather's done this for the last 7 years its not new news.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiebhoy
[quote=Majesty;869088]Nah, let them do it - I'm sure Floyd loves it, uses it as even more fuel to psyche himself up. When he wins and makes more money from them, he's laughing all the way to the bank.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiebhoy
Then he lines up the next guy and does it all over again. Floyd has never got the credit he deserves and probably never will from some people because they have this love affair with the golden oldies.
It's called evolution folks...a prime Floyd would do just fine against the old guys apart from possibly Hearns because of his long arms and frequent use of the jab. Maybe not win against them all but would not guaranteed for them either.
You'll miss him when he's gone :cool:
Can I get a so what? Floyd has one opinion, everyone else has another. Fact is, you should appreciate he believes it. If he went around proclaiming other fighters as being better than him then that shows he feels he has limits. I appreciate the guy has that much confidence in himself. In 20 years someone is going to say he's better than Mayweather. And people will get all outraged over that too. Just appreciate the guy has belief in himself.
And don't you all realize Floyd says these things aloud because he knows it gets a reaction which equates into more $$$?
And I agree with whoever stated it above: I think Floyd could beat Hearns.
ALL fighters fought more back then...Why do you think so many past greats..had so many fights...Could not all be the fact they all blew their money...As far as money made 20million for a fight back then would be like 100 million in todays terms the statement about that makes zero sense...Those at the elite level who went broke due to their own spending habits the % is not much higher then today...There were no laws on how much promoters managers were entitled to then... Hell people did not even know until years after they were either dead or long long after they were broke did the public know about it....Also boxing was not as publicized as today...the only fighters who drew in huge crowds were world champions and top 10 fighters....Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseBlame the times for that. Not Mayweather. Robinson had to fight a lot cuz he spend more money than he made. Plus the money was different back than. You add up all the fights Robinson had in let say 5 years and he still don't come close to making what Mayweather made in the Hatton or De la Hoya fight alone. I have no doubt if Robinson made 20 million a fight there is no way in hell he fights as much as he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Robinson 200 career bouts
Basilio 79 bouts did not die broke
Armstrong 180 Became a minister donated money and life to underprivileged kids did not die in poverty
Archie Moore 220 Did not die broke..Was family man comfortable retirement
Many fights for these guys with 75+ records were early on and many were them not willing to retire....Not all were from money issues like Robinson..
More fighters go broke today
I agree with this assessment. Hearns was good but Mayweather is defensive greatness. I have no love for the man or his mouth and want him to get KOd but I can't see Hearns beating him. PBF sure wouldn't stop him but he'd pot shot the hell out of him even with Tommy's long ass arms.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONI agree with this assessment. Hearns was good but Mayweather is defensive greatness. I have no love for the man or his mouth and want him to get KOd but I can't see Hearns beating him. PBF sure wouldn't stop him but he'd pot shot the hell out of him even with Tommy's long ass arms.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Floyd Jr is not a WW version SRL...Get that straight...Leonard hit harder...Just as fast...SRL also could fight as the aggressor..He often did...Leonard did to top rated ATG opponents that Floyd did to Gatti...They are not even on the same level at WW.......Against Hearns Floyd would have to be the aggressor if he tried to lay and counter punch he would get murdered...
People forget how great Hearns was at Welterweight, it took a top 3 atg WW in Leonard to beat him, and it was a back and forth fight.
Mayweather is a great no question, just not a welterweight great, and imo he doesn't beat Hearns.
Floyd does not beat Hearns at fukkin all.
Tommy was only 21 and not in his prime when he lost to SRL , in his prime nobody below MW outboxes Tommy , Mayweather is a fantastic fighter ,but name anyone he has fought who comes near to Hearns in speed ability and power ,oh and SIZE .Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONI agree with this assessment. Hearns was good but Mayweather is defensive greatness. I have no love for the man or his mouth and want him to get KOd but I can't see Hearns beating him. PBF sure wouldn't stop him but he'd pot shot the hell out of him even with Tommy's long ass arms.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
For me Paul Williams ( who isnt as good as Tommy ) would beat Mayweather.
the same paul williams that was thoroughly outboxed by carlos quintana? Floyd would stay low and expose his low guard all night long...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlTommy was only 21 and not in his prime when he lost to SRL , in his prime nobody below MW outboxes Tommy , Mayweather is a fantastic fighter ,but name anyone he has fought who comes near to Hearns in speed ability and power ,oh and SIZE .Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONI agree with this assessment. Hearns was good but Mayweather is defensive greatness. I have no love for the man or his mouth and want him to get KOd but I can't see Hearns beating him. PBF sure wouldn't stop him but he'd pot shot the hell out of him even with Tommy's long ass arms.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
For me Paul Williams ( who isnt as good as Tommy ) would beat Mayweather.
Agreed, Mayweather would be waaaaaaaaaay too good for Williams!!Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherthe same paul williams that was thoroughly outboxed by carlos quintana? Floyd would stay low and expose his low guard all night long...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlTommy was only 21 and not in his prime when he lost to SRL , in his prime nobody below MW outboxes Tommy , Mayweather is a fantastic fighter ,but name anyone he has fought who comes near to Hearns in speed ability and power ,oh and SIZE .Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
For me Paul Williams ( who isnt as good as Tommy ) would beat Mayweather.
VD's general point was - the old guys didn't make the money modern stars like Floyd do, hence they fought more.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnALL fighters fought more back then...Why do you think so many past greats..had so many fights...Could not all be the fact they all blew their money...As far as money made 20million for a fight back then would be like 100 million in todays terms the statement about that makes zero sense...Those at the elite level who went broke due to their own spending habits the % is not much higher then today...There were no laws on how much promoters managers were entitled to then... Hell people did not even know until years after they were either dead or long long after they were broke did the public know about it....Also boxing was not as publicized as today...the only fighters who drew in huge crowds were world champions and top 10 fighters....Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseBlame the times for that. Not Mayweather. Robinson had to fight a lot cuz he spend more money than he made. Plus the money was different back than. You add up all the fights Robinson had in let say 5 years and he still don't come close to making what Mayweather made in the Hatton or De la Hoya fight alone. I have no doubt if Robinson made 20 million a fight there is no way in hell he fights as much as he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Robinson 200 career bouts
Basilio 79 bouts did not die broke
Armstrong 180 Became a minister donated money and life to underprivileged kids did not die in poverty
Archie Moore 220 Did not die broke..Was family man comfortable retirement
Many fights for these guys with 75+ records were early on and many were them not willing to retire....Not all were from money issues like Robinson..
More fighters go broke today
If those guys could make $20m for one fight a year they wouldn't be having 10. It's common sense.
That's exactly it. I'm surprised the comment went over his headQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterVD's general point was - the old guys didn't make the money modern stars like Floyd do, hence they fought more.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnALL fighters fought more back then...Why do you think so many past greats..had so many fights...Could not all be the fact they all blew their money...As far as money made 20million for a fight back then would be like 100 million in todays terms the statement about that makes zero sense...Those at the elite level who went broke due to their own spending habits the % is not much higher then today...There were no laws on how much promoters managers were entitled to then... Hell people did not even know until years after they were either dead or long long after they were broke did the public know about it....Also boxing was not as publicized as today...the only fighters who drew in huge crowds were world champions and top 10 fighters....Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Robinson 200 career bouts
Basilio 79 bouts did not die broke
Armstrong 180 Became a minister donated money and life to underprivileged kids did not die in poverty
Archie Moore 220 Did not die broke..Was family man comfortable retirement
Many fights for these guys with 75+ records were early on and many were them not willing to retire....Not all were from money issues like Robinson..
More fighters go broke today
If those guys could make $20m for one fight a year they wouldn't be having 10. It's common sense.
You know what really makes no sense...If you are rich beyond what you could possibly spend logically and you keep on fighting when does it come the time you are no longer fighting for money?...When do you start fighting for legacy? I find it hard to believe Floyd does not care about legacy?
My point was these guys named were getting top money for the day...Those who made 100,000 for a fight in the 50's equals the millions mark today....Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThat's exactly it. I'm surprised the comment went over his headQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterVD's general point was - the old guys didn't make the money modern stars like Floyd do, hence they fought more.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
If those guys could make $20m for one fight a year they wouldn't be having 10. It's common sense.
There's no way in hell Floyd Mayweather Jr would beat Thomas Hearns, i like both fighters but come on lets be real here. Floyd Mayweather Jr isn't at his best at Welterweight. Where as Thomas Hearns was and at Jr Middleweight aswell.
Thomas Hearns has all the advantages. Reach, Power, Height, ETC. There handspeed is equal and no way would the shoulder roll work, vs Thomas Hearns.
He would just pot shot Floyd Mayweather Jr, at distance with his jab and the occasional big right hand. The only way Floyd Mayweather Jr could win, is if he come forward. Which i doubt he would.
But if he did he would more than likely get KO'ed, Floyd Mayweather Jr is a very good Welterweight. But Thomas Hearns is a great Welterweight, he outboxed SRL twice for crying out loud.
The fight would look very much like the Wilfredo Benitez fight, where Floyd Mayweather Jr goes the distance. But is outpointed clearly but he doesn't get dominated, he just isn't aggressive enough and is too defensive. Just like Wilfredo Benitez was.
Better than Ali? Better than Ray Robinson? Let me make this clear, I grew up in a tough neighborhood and on a dare I walked into a gym and threw on the gloves and I loved boxing. I did it for a short while because as I got better the opponents hit harder, moved faster and had only one thing on their mind, knock this guy's head off. My point is that the old time boxers did not pick and choose. Floyd does and he is good in the ring and he makes money. Floyd has fought quite a few opponents that were on the way out and so did other champions but he hasn't been in a situation wherein he can say that those punches hurt or he hurt me bad. By the way does he go out and buy his toilet paper or does he get it delivered by the truckload every week? P.S. Floyd had not fought enough or fought good enough opponents to earn the title great. He's got the tools but better than some of the all time greats? He's got to do it the old fashion way to get that title, he's got to earn it.
No truer words.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnsebastianmiran
My buddy texted me today sayin he saw Mayweather on the Jim Rome show sayin that he is better than Ali.
Floyd seems to be getting a rise out of people who don't follow boxing by saying crap like this.
But boxing fans know he's full of $hit and Sugar Ray Leonard, let alone Robinson, would have knocked Floyd out without much trouble.
People need to not get riled up by Floyd's remarks. Clearly Mayweather says things to get attention. You could be damn sure that he, his uncle, and his father...all know deep down that he does not belong in the same sentence as Robinson, Ali, and some of the other all time greats. As for Hearns...Floyd would get his butt beat all the way back to Michigan if he fought the Hitman. People sometime need to look back at history to appreciate the talent of certain era's and the willingness of those fighters to face each other. You are talking about a time when you had Hearns, Hagler, Leonard, and Duran...FOUR LEGENDS. None of this is to say Floyd isn't a great fighter...but he simply doesn't have the resume to back the BS that comes out of his mouth. But you have to give him credit for playing the villain well...he sells fights and tickets. But, unfortunately for him...no amount of money will ever make him regarded as a better fighter than many of the greats from the past.
SRL struggled with Mayweather Sr, who took the fight on short notice and also had been shot in the leg a few weeks prior to that. Plus senior hadn't perfected the shell and they stopped that fight prematurely. Floyd Jr. would toy with SRL...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
I was no fan of SRL but he beat the piss out of pbf. no contest.
...Ray stopped him and Ray would stop Floyd Jr. too.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Roberto Duran would have fucked Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s shit up. GREAT inside fighter, rock solid chin, dirty fighter, solid power, and he could get Floyd out of his game with his attitude.
Agreed on Duran...PBF would not of known how to deal with him...Actually I doubt PBF would have taken a fight with Duran because he was so dangerous in so many ways..Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle...Ray stopped him and Ray would stop Floyd Jr. too.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Roberto Duran would have fucked Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s shit up. GREAT inside fighter, rock solid chin, dirty fighter, solid power, and he could get Floyd out of his game with his attitude.
As for the taking out of his game with the talk...Floyd puts on an act...Duran really was a mean MOFO!!!!...Floyd would have tried that bullshit with his hands on Duran like he did Shane there would have been a fight right there on stage..Not just some shoving either..