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You'd have to have your head so far up floyd's ass that you couldnt see that shane was too old and tired even before floyd started to actually fight.
Shane was breathing with his mouth open from the third round on and this was before PBF started to do anything of significance. I stood up in a room full of people and yelled.. "shane's about to lose 10 rounds in a row"..its was so obvious. The fatigue.
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
hahahaha that is fucking great, did the people next to you quietly move? I imagine so.
The were more like "what fuck are you talking about he just almost scored a knockout he's about to finish him"..Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
hahahaha that is fucking great, did the people next to you quietly move? I imagine so.
I knew if he didnt finish him he was done..it was clear from the onset shane was too tired..be it inactivity, age, or overtraining. Maybe a little bit of them all, but I changed my pick to floyd after the first round...
I agree, but I realised it a little later. It hit me that Mosley had wilted in the 4th. I should have realised it in the 3rd and thought Mosley might just be catching a break, but he really was tired. It was as though everything was spent in the 2nd and it wasn't even as if Mosley threw a hundred punches in that round. Yes, mouth wide open and punches that were infrequent and really seemed to be lacking in zip. It seems there really was only a plan A and that plan was spent when the bell rang at the end of the second.
I love the standing up and shouting thing BTW, very funny! ;D
Yes, Shane was 38, but this was the no.1 welter in the world with speed, power, and chin.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Would it be different if say this was the 28 year old Shane that fought Oscar? Maybe.
But you have to give credit where it's due, he dominated the no. 1 welter in the world.
yeah it was because of the dragging disappointment of a boring fight i knew was coming after floyd survived. I've always said the only way to beat floyd is to catch him and hope he doesnt get up...except shane didnt finish him.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
shane needs his steroids.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogYes, Shane was 38, but this was the no.1 welter in the world with speed, power, and chin.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Would it be different if say this was the 28 year old Shane that fought Oscar? Maybe.
But you have to give credit where it's due, he dominated the no. 1 welter in the world.
This is what I hate about boxing fans sometimes. Many people said Floyd was going to get beat in this fight because Mosley is too fast or too big or too good or whatever blah blah fucking blah. Now Floyd had his scare early on and I thought he did well to get by the second. But why now after the fight is Shane too old all of a sudden?? Mayweather had only had 1 fight in the last 2 and a half years so surely the ring rust has got to be even. Mayweather was the better man plain and simple and no one will give him the credit he is due until he's gone and then people will say about someone else .... Yes he's good but he wouldn't have beaten Floyd Mayweather.
Please people show some class and just admit Floyd was plain and simply the better man.
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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
pretty easy to be better than an 38 year old tired punching bag..shane looked as bad as oscar did against pacman..
On the night Floyd was the better man. He won the fight by a landslide, what more can you want? I'm admitting it.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
I for one am not flip flopping. I said before the fight I wanted Mosley to win, but I also made clear my reservations and those reservations were made glaringly obvious by what happened. Mosley had accumulated a lot of rust and couldn't get his punches off. He was old, he looked old and he fought old. Mayweather was in shape as usual and it showed in the fight.
It's like Hatton beating Vince Phillips. It's a good win on paper, but in hindsight would we say that was Phillips at his best. Obviously not. All a fighter can do is beat who is in front of him and fair play to Mayweather in that regard. He performed, he won.
To me, this looked like essentially the same Mosley from the Margarito fight.
I saw it differently, although i take nothing away from mayweather as i think he totally schooled shane... however shane looked terrible in the fight.. he was a nervous ball of energy from the opening bell and his constant moving and not being able to relax is why he tired himself out early on... he just couldnt relax and as a result he wasnt being his normal warrior self, the mosley that throws flurries and fights toe to toe was spent after the forth...however mayweather fought brilliantly and showed some balls tonight
Exactly...just too hyped up. He kills himself with all of that stupid bouncing. And tried to step on the gas and couldn't go...I admit it if floyd went in and totally outboxed shane and broke him down, but shane was gassed before the PBF onslaught began...Quote:
Originally Posted by bigge233
It also makes you look at Marquez, who was chubby even at LW, and you have to respect him for being such a tough son of a gun. He went all the way up to WW against an opponent who refused to make weight and hung in there right until the end. He didn't do that much worse than Mosley all things considered!
You could tell with what Richardson was saying to Mosley between rounds that Shane was not relaxed from the start. Mosley didn't seem to respond to the advice being given to him in the corner very well either.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigge233
Mayweather called it. He said that Shane would be jittery and he was. Shane wasn't too jittery in the 1st and 2nd round, but once he started to get tagged by the Mayweather jab, out came the jitterbugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
That's true, Mosley became very jittery and hesitant too. They did their homework.Quote:
Originally Posted by doublehook2Mayweather called it. He said that Shane would be jittery and he was. Shane wasn't too jittery in the 1st and 2nd round, but once he started to get tagged by the Mayweather jab, out came the jitterbugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
at least it was fun to watch.
For the people that say Shane was too old, not as good as before, etc. I wonder if they thought that during the first 2 rounds specially when he nailed Floyd with a right that almost sent him to the canvas.
Nope , only afterwards... they will use the first two rounds to say a prime Shane would knock out Floyd of course though ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Chino
as will the people who say even though shane looked old and wasn't as fast as he once was it still wouldnt have mattered ten years ago...Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyNope , only afterwards... they will use the first two rounds to say a prime Shane would knock out Floyd of course though ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Chino
Just give up ever expecting these people to give Floyd credit dude - These will also be the same people who say "No, seriously, if Floyd beats Mosley I will definitely give him credit!"Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
Then come in here with the same, he's tired/old/overtrained/didn't eat his lucky charms this morning.
It's the same old ritual that follows every PBF fight when he dominates in such big fashion. :rolleyes:
...I felt the exact same wayQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
But this was a fucking masterpeice of boxing on Floyd's part, I do fess up and admit he was damn near untouchable after the 2nd and he rocked Shane a bunch of times.
Floyd will do the exact same thing to Manny Pac, Floyd will set the pace after a couple of rounds and Manny will throw 500 fewer punches in the fight then he normally does and will be dominated in the same fashion as Mosley was and people won't be able to say he was to old but they will say he was drained from drug testing or to small.
Mayweather is the best fighter and everyone knows it and he has the ability to make a great fighter look ordinary.
If he gets caught like he did in the 2nd vs Pacquiao I HIGHLY doubt we're going to see the fight go the distance.
I do now think Floyd can hurt Manny after seeing him rock Shane who has a granite chin. Shane never wobbled but you could tell those right hands didn't tickle
The definition of insanity, in terms of Boxing Talk, is people wishing for the same thing over and over and always ending up being disappointed. ;D
because he was tired not because the shots were heavy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle