what is the best blood testing compromise for pacquiao-mayweather fight?

what is the best blood testing compromise for pacquiao-mayweather fight?

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i voted for an 18 day cut off because it meets the 14 days requested by floyd and the 24 day cut off requested by pac in the middle(or there abouts), it seems a logical compramise. JUST MAKE THE FUKKIN FIGHT HAPPEN FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

Compromise? utter bollox there is no compromise. Olympic style testing is just that. Random testing up to the fight, other wise it's pointless. If pac's clean he's nothing to worry about. Floyd is going through the exact same thing so no fighter is at a disadvantage.

If your against testing your against fairness in sport and really as far as i'm concerned you can fuck off cuz you're a part of the problem.

I don't want to see a compromise on this issue. I want pac to prove he's clean and that his previous wins are legit. He's even had a good few months now to let any shit he was on drain out of his system.

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

Compromise? utter bollox there is no compromise. Olympic style testing is just that. Random testing up to the fight, other wise it's pointless. If pac's clean he's nothing to worry about. Floyd is going through the exact same thing so no fighter is at a disadvantage.

If your against testing your against fairness in sport and really as far as i'm concerned you can fuck off cuz you're a part of the problem.

I don't want to see a compromise on this issue. I want pac to prove he's clean and that his previous wins are legit. He's even had a good few months now to let any shit he was on drain out of his system.

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i understand where ur comin from hf, and i do agree, but my view is what i think will have to happen for the fight to go forward and not what i personally think is right.

I expect the mayweather team to hold strong. No comprimising, No tests no fight. And like i've said before I don't expect the fight to happen.

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

Compromise? utter bollox there is no compromise. Olympic style testing is just that. Random testing up to the fight, other wise it's pointless. If pac's clean he's nothing to worry about. Floyd is going through the exact same thing so no fighter is at a disadvantage.

If your against testing your against fairness in sport and really as far as i'm concerned you can fuck off cuz you're a part of the problem.

I don't want to see a compromise on this issue. I want pac to prove he's clean and that his previous wins are legit. He's even had a good few months now to let any shit he was on drain out of his system.

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isn't it team mayweather already offered the 14 days cutoff and testing right after the fight?

the $10 million per lb clause was the compromise for the blood testing, just Pacquiao bitched out like a primadona

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

the $10 million per lb clause was the compromise for the blood testing, just Pacquiao bitched out like a primadona

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if pacquiao drops the $10 million penalty, is it fair that blood testing will also be dropped?

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Originally Posted by toe2toe

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

the $10 million per lb clause was the compromise for the blood testing, just Pacquiao bitched out like a primadona

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if pacquiao drops the $10 million penalty, is it fair that blood testing will also be dropped?

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maybe, but after hearing mayweathers post mosley fight interview, where he says no drug tests no fight i cant see it happening personally

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Originally Posted by paddy448

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Originally Posted by toe2toe

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

the $10 million per lb clause was the compromise for the blood testing, just Pacquiao bitched out like a primadona

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if pacquiao drops the $10 million penalty, is it fair that blood testing will also be dropped?

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maybe, but after hearing mayweathers post mosley fight interview, where he says no drug tests no fight i cant see it happening personally

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compromise should be made for this fight to happen. floyd's demand of olympic style blood testing is not presently required by boxing commission. pacquiao offering a 24 days cutoff and testing right after the fight is already a compromise to what floyd demanded which is not really required for a boxing fight in the first place.

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Originally Posted by toe2toe

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

the $10 million per lb clause was the compromise for the blood testing, just Pacquiao bitched out like a primadona

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if pacquiao drops the $10 million penalty, is it fair that blood testing will also be dropped?

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No not at all. That's like saying we'll drop the ten mill for every pound over (even though floyd does 147 easily) if you allow pac to take drugs. They are completely seperate issues.

Not once has floyd asked for the 10 million per pound over thing to be dropped. why? because he will come in inside the weight. Why does pac want the tests compromised? hmmm I wonder....

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

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Originally Posted by toe2toe

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

the $10 million per lb clause was the compromise for the blood testing, just Pacquiao bitched out like a primadona

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if pacquiao drops the $10 million penalty, is it fair that blood testing will also be dropped?

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No not at all. That's like saying we'll drop the ten mill for every pound over (even though floyd does 147 easily) if you allow pac to take drugs. They are completely seperate issues.

Not once has floyd asked for the 10 million per pound over thing to be dropped. why? because he will come in inside the weight. Why does pac want the tests compromised? hmmm I wonder....

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you're right, the penalty clause and blood testing are 2 separate issues as opposed to what was pointed out by another poster.

pacquiao offered a 24 days cutoff and testing right after the fight compromise since olympic style blood testing were not really required by boxing commissions for a boxing match in the first place. pacquiao already made a compromise by agreeing to blood testing with 24 days cutoff and testing right after the fight.

NSAC has it's own regulations and penalties for coming in overweight, so why does Pacquiao have to make up a $10 million per lb clause?

i think the blood tests should happen, and it should be the norm, not just in this fight

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

NSAC has it's own regulations and penalties for coming in overweight, so why does Pacquiao have to make up a $10 million per lb clause?

i think the blood tests should happen, and it should be the norm, not just in this fight

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we can discuss the weight penalty clause in another thread since it's a completely separate issue from blood testing. these 2 are not related.

stringent blood testing might be the way to go in the future but its total implementation still needs to be studied thoroughly. some issues are;
- will it be for all boxers? (as what you suggested) including those undercard boxers
- who will shoulder the blood testing cost of roughly $20k per boxer per fight ($20k is larger than some boxers' purses)

until such time that boxing commissions already has the blood testing in place, we can contend ourselves with compromise testing.

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Originally Posted by toe2toe

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

NSAC has it's own regulations and penalties for coming in overweight, so why does Pacquiao have to make up a $10 million per lb clause?

i think the blood tests should happen, and it should be the norm, not just in this fight

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we can discuss the weight penalty clause in another thread since it's a completely separate issue from blood testing. these 2 are not related.

stringent blood testing might be the way to go in the future but its total implementation still needs to be studied thoroughly. some issues are;
- will it be for all boxers? (as what you suggested) including those undercard boxers
- who will shoulder the blood testing cost of roughly $20k per boxer per fight ($20k is larger than some boxers' purses)

until such time that boxing commissions already has the blood testing in place, we can contend ourselves with compromise testing.

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Well you can start by putting it on title fights and make the IBF wbo wbc wba etc etc pay for it. Failing that take it out of the fight purse.

That would be a decent start.

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

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Originally Posted by toe2toe

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

NSAC has it's own regulations and penalties for coming in overweight, so why does Pacquiao have to make up a $10 million per lb clause?

i think the blood tests should happen, and it should be the norm, not just in this fight

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we can discuss the weight penalty clause in another thread since it's a completely separate issue from blood testing. these 2 are not related.

stringent blood testing might be the way to go in the future but its total implementation still needs to be studied thoroughly. some issues are;
- will it be for all boxers? (as what you suggested) including those undercard boxers
- who will shoulder the blood testing cost of roughly $20k per boxer per fight ($20k is larger than some boxers' purses)

until such time that boxing commissions already has the blood testing in place, we can contend ourselves with compromise testing.

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Well you can start by putting it on title fights and make the IBF wbo wbc wba etc etc pay for it. Failing that take it out of the fight purse.

That would be a decent start.

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good suggestion. until such time that it's already in place, a compromise agreement might be the best solution to make this fight a reality.

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Originally Posted by toe2toe

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

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Originally Posted by toe2toe

we can discuss the weight penalty clause in another thread since it's a completely separate issue from blood testing. these 2 are not related.

stringent blood testing might be the way to go in the future but its total implementation still needs to be studied thoroughly. some issues are;
- will it be for all boxers? (as what you suggested) including those undercard boxers
- who will shoulder the blood testing cost of roughly $20k per boxer per fight ($20k is larger than some boxers' purses)

until such time that boxing commissions already has the blood testing in place, we can contend ourselves with compromise testing.

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Well you can start by putting it on title fights and make the IBF wbo wbc wba etc etc pay for it. Failing that take it out of the fight purse.

That would be a decent start.

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good suggestion. until such time that it's already in place, a compromise agreement might be the best solution to make this fight a reality.

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the weight penalty clause has everything to do with this, cause it goes hand in hand with the blood testing seeing how they were the demands made in this particular fight

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by toe2toe

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

Well you can start by putting it on title fights and make the IBF wbo wbc wba etc etc pay for it. Failing that take it out of the fight purse.

That would be a decent start.

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good suggestion. until such time that it's already in place, a compromise agreement might be the best solution to make this fight a reality.

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the weight penalty clause has everything to do with this, cause it goes hand in hand with the blood testing seeing how they were the demands made in this particular fight

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so you want the purse split, the size of the gloves, the size of the ring be discussed on this thread as well?

granting these 2 issues are related, does pacquiao dropping the weight penalty clause causes mayweather to drop the blood testing demand too?

the thread title says it all. the weight penalty clause is not related to the subject of this thread.

on another note, any info if usada testers got blood from floyd and mosley right after the fight?

how many days from blood letting 'til the results be known, any info?

I was actually hopeful when Pac said he'd do a 14 day cut off - But the more I think about, the only way it is completely fair is the 1 day cut off.

If it's good enough for Mosley who was the man at Welter then it should be good enough for Miss Phillipines too if he grows some balls and does the right thing.

I don't know whether I'd sacrifice Floyd agreeing for the 14 day cut off..actually, of course I would...I want this fight to happen regardless but it would still leave a teeny doubt about Pac for me.

18 days cutoff and testing right after the fight is a good compromise already for this fight to happen.

anything they can compromise as long as the fight happens. ;D

If the fight ain't fair I'm not interested in seeing it.

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Originally Posted by Althugz

I was actually hopeful when Pac said he'd do a 14 day cut off - But the more I think about, the only way it is completely fair is the 1 day cut off.

If it's good enough for Mosley who was the man at Welter then it should be good enough for Miss Phillipines too if he grows some balls and does the right thing.

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HAHAHAHAHAAHA!!! That's made my day! ;D

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

If the fight ain't fair I'm not interested in seeing it.

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if the boxers can compromise and agree to fight, it's good enough for me. can't wait to see this fight.

Just accept the 14 day cutoff and fight.

14 days and a test straight after the fight could be decent it if is the last resort but personally, I think that such funny arrangements aren't a good trend.

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Originally Posted by Nameless

14 days and a test straight after the fight could be decent it if is the last resort but personally, I think that such funny arrangements aren't a good trend.

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all these funny arrangements will be gone once boxing commissions adapted the olympic style blood testing as the standard drug testing for all professional boxers at all level.

let's support to clean this sport we love most that suspected being full of drug cheats.

until then let's contend with compromise arrangements.

As I've said before can Olympic style drug testing detect A-side Meth? I mean a drug that can make you take .38 and .45 caliber bullets on the battlefield of war is dangerous in any sport.

I mean there was a respected Saddo member here that said the North Vietnamese soldiers used A-side Meth during the war against the US military, and they seemed invincible to the M-16 bullets that the US infantry used.

So think if Pacquiao is using this A-side meth, no wonder he's invincible in the ring.

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

As I've said before can Olympic style drug testing detect A-side Meth? I mean a drug that can make you take .38 and .45 caliber bullets on the battlefield of war is dangerous in any sport.

I mean there was a respected Saddo member here that said the North Vietnamese soldiers used A-side Meth during the war against the US military, and they seemed invincible to the M-16 bullets that the US infantry used.

So think if Pacquiao is using this A-side meth, no wonder he's invincible in the ring.

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imo that a-side-meth drug is so difficult to detect.

whatever is required by the commission. otherwise it is BS.

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Originally Posted by mickel

whatever is required by the commission. otherwise it is BS.

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you got a very valid point but we need a compromise just to have this fight a reality.

If Pacquiao has nothing to hide he should be able to do tests at any point do the test Manny and make $40m i think the tests are a good thing i hope they end up being being in the sport as it would clean it up and every fighter is on a even playing field.

One day before the fight. If they are both doing it, then what's the problem? I'm easing somewhat on my anti-Pac stance, but he needs to take the damn tests.