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Haye would rather fight Vitali than Wlad right now.
Adam Booth: David Haye Wants To Fight Vitali Klitschko - Boxing News
Just read this and I think Haye has watched Vitali's last fight and come to the same conclusion I did, Vitali is on the slide. He is bound to look great vs Sosnowski but lets face it, them two shouldn't even be allowed in the same arena. Wlad on the other hand is peaking around about now and Haye has never fought anyone of that size (other than Valuev who is basically just too slow and predictable) and being new to the division I think he wants to take on Vitali, get experience against someone of similar size and strength to Wlad, hopefully win and look good doing it, let Wlad and Povetkin fight it out and then take on the winner.
The thing is Vitali outside serious boxing fans IS considered the better of the 2 due to his Lennox Lewis fight and then beating up Sanders after he had beaten Wlad and that would make it look great for Haye that he is going for the other (more dangerous) brother but I really think that Vitali may be on the slide now and ready for the taking by someone who is fast and powerful like Haye.
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rjj tszyu
Adam Booth: David Haye Wants To Fight Vitali Klitschko - Boxing News
Just read this and I think Haye has watched Vitali's last fight and come to the same conclusion I did, Vitali is on the slide. He is bound to look great vs Sosnowski but lets face it, them two shouldn't even be allowed in the same arena. Wlad on the other hand is peaking around about now and Haye has never fought anyone of that size (other than Valuev who is basically just too slow and predictable) and being new to the division I think he wants to take on Vitali, get experience against someone of similar size and strength to Wlad, hopefully win and look good doing it, let Wlad and Povetkin fight it out and then take on the winner.
The thing is Vitali outside serious boxing fans IS considered the better of the 2 due to his Lennox Lewis fight and then beating up Sanders after he had beaten Wlad and that would make it look great for Haye that he is going for the other (more dangerous) brother but I really think that Vitali may be on the slide now and ready for the taking by someone who is fast and powerful like Haye.
Mate your a good poster, but don't try and polish it up, Haye is a shit house plain and simple, Wlad is the number 1 and holds the ring belt everyone knows he is number one but Haye again is backing out of a fight with him, Vitali has a a fight in a couple of weeks Wlad is free, but they no Wlad will knock Haye into next week, not really suprised they dont want anything to do with Wlad. But Haye needs his mouth shut for good.
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Re: Haye would rather fight Vitali than Wlad right now.
Bit Harsh there Skel - you may not like Haye but RJJ mere stating his opinion on Haye and the Klits.
Personally I hope Haye goes for Wlad first because he can KO him (though I would make Wlad the favourite).
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don't be shocked if Haye ends up taking on Jameel McCline
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Re: Haye would rather fight Vitali than Wlad right now.
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Mark TKO
Bit Harsh there Skel - you may not like Haye but RJJ mere stating his opinion on Haye and the Klits.
Personally I hope Haye goes for Wlad first because he can KO him (though I would make Wlad the favourite).
Maybe so but it just seems quite handy that they want Vitali when he is tied up but Wlad is free to fight and they find yet another excuse, am with Morales expect a barn burner of a fight on Pay Per view either against McCline or Ray Mercer.
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Big Haye fan but he should just fight Wlad after all the shit that's gone on.
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I'm not surprised that he'd rather fight Vitali....to me Vitali looks old right now. Sure he's still big, still got a good chin, and still knocks guys out, but he doesn't sit down on his punches like he used to and I think neck/back/knee issues have sapped his power.
Wlad is on his "A-game" right now and NOBODY out there right now has much of a shot vs him. They either don't have the handspeed, the power, the heart, the chin, or the skill to bother him much less beat him. If Tony Thompson had KO power he'd be a legit threat but he doesn't have KO power. I don't favor the Brit to give Wlad ANY trouble the fight will go like this: Wlad uses the jab, the WBA title holder swings wildly and tries to rough house Wlad, Wlad lands a powerful right cross knocking the WBA title holder down and from then on out it'll look like anyone else vs Wlad where they keep looking for an opening while eating the 1-2 and Wlad stops him late.....that is the way the fight will go and of that I am certain
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Re: Haye would rather fight Vitali than Wlad right now.
Vitali has a much more open defense so he can be hit with more ease, sounds like a good choice to me.
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lyle why is it so hard for you to say Haye? Has he really bothered you that much? It's not like you have to call him 'the champ' or anything but going out fo your way to always not to say his name is a nice way to show us that you care enough to be bothered. :)
I think even at this stage Vitali is much stronger than Haye, but is starting to luck the athletisism to make that strength count, like has been said it's no wonder that he'd want Vitali... personally I wish he'd just fight Wlad and get it over with.
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He has the choice between a relatively fast k.o against somebody he might have the lucky punch chance or a wall he definitely can't crack and that will probably break him down slowly and systematically. It all depends what you prefer in the end.
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Haye will lose and get KOed to either Klit brother.
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I think Haye stands a much better chance of beating Vitali, but he really needs to stop talking all the shit he does if he's just going to try and pick and choose his fights. You called out Wlad, the fight can be made, so fucking fight him before you lose what little credibility you have left.
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Re: Haye would rather fight Vitali than Wlad right now.
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skel1983
you've got something in common with him then.
Style wise I think vitali is the easier oponant for Haye.
Still we'll know what's what by the end of this month when a fight with one of them is announced.
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skel1983
you've got something in common with him then.
Style wise I think vitali is the easier oponant for Haye.
Still we'll know what's what by the end of this month when a fight with one of them is announced.
Thats rich from you Barry, by the end of the month? We have been waiting for nearly 12 months dont hold your breath, I see sky announcing a Haye v Audley fight before we see Haye v any Klit. Haye is a joke.
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Wait till the end of the month sheepy. Until then you can carry on saying the same as what lyle and the majority of others are saying, save you having to think for yourself.
Haye will fight both klits. End of story.
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Re: Haye would rather fight Vitali than Wlad right now.
I have no doubt he will
But personally I would have no problem with him taking Audley first and ridding him once and for all from the scene. He could blow him out inside two rounds and be ready to fight again in no time
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Why do people think he has a better chance of beating Vitali?
Haye's biggest shot is his power. Vitali has never been stopped and uses his size in a way to barely get hit on the chin. Wladimer has been stopped and his chin is not too hard to find he just holds all the darn time. If you want to talk about Haye stopping someone because he beats neither by decision, then Wladimer would be the choice.
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Re: Haye would rather fight Vitali than Wlad right now.
I disagree.
Yes power does come into it but his speed is going to get him in and out and make his opponant work the whole fight. And no one has made either klit work for a while. Vitali being older it's going to work better on him. Vit's style is generally slow and quite ploddy. I think haye could swarm round him and maybe Ko him. If not a points victory is doable.
Wladmir is more spritely. He moves better, works at a higher tempo, higher punch out put and has better stamina.
Styles make fights.
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Hornfinger
I disagree.
Yes power does come into it but his speed is going to get him in and out and make his opponant work the whole fight. And no one has made either klit work for a while. Vitali being older it's going to work better on him. Vit's style is generally slow and quite ploddy. I think haye could swarm round him and maybe Ko him. If not a points victory is doable.
Wladmir is more spritely. He moves better, works at a higher tempo, higher punch out put and has better stamina.
Styles make fights.
Haye seems to like to launch his power shots from the outside and also play defense from out there too. And playing a distance game with Vitali is the wrong kind of way to fight and it is the way haye fights. Vitali may be a worse style for him unless he can get in and out without being hit with that vitali push jab, and I don't know if he can.
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Haye is a fukking idiot. Punking out and showing the world your a coward is not a smart move. Even his groupies are jumping ship. The less stupid ones that is. Haye is so predictable it's pathetic. How people can't see it is unbelievable. Read between the fukking lines.
Haye never said he wanted to fight Vitali until now. Why? Cuz nobody expected the IBF to grant Wlad permission to bypass Povetkin. Everybody expected the long overdue Wlad-Povetkin to take place. At which time Haye's dumb ass would of told the world that Wlad was ducking him. Ignoring the fact that Povetkin is his mandatory, Haye would of kept running at the mouth telling everybody who would listen that if Wlad really wanted to fight him he would of requested the IBF permission to bypass Povetkin. Wlad was scared of him by not doing so. But Wlad was smart. He saw it coming. So he decided to pull Haye's hoe card. He publicly called him out. And requested permission from the IBF to bypass Povetkin. Haye's heart is pumping the lemonade at a rapid pace. Wlad's moves got him shook. He's scared. Only thing he has left is for the IBF to deny the request and force Wlad-Povetkin. IBF shocks everybody and grants permission. Haye's respose? I wanna fight Vitali first. Knowing Vitali already has a fight lined up. Classic biitch, I'm scared to death move.
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Why do people think he has a better chance of beating Vitali?
Well just my view of the whole thing is just based on how good each brother is fighting right now. If you could rate each brother 1-10 based on how well they have fought recently my thought is Wlad is about a 9 (until he starts gunning for KO's earlier he won't get to 10) and Vitali is about a 7...his power isn't as good he's easier to hit and guys like Arreola and Johnson are lasting longer with him which IMO means he's slowing down and due to his recent surgeries and injuries maybe he's easier to pick off.
I'm not saying that the WBA title holder (whom I have refused to call by name until he's KO'd) would beat Vitali....I just think it's the easier fight as Vitali's not punching as hard, he's having a little more trouble in breaking through a defense, and he's a little easier to hit. Also if you lose to Vitali you may just get KO'd in 2 whereas when you fight Wladimir you WILL catch a beat down for a long time and it will damage you physically and mentally because you'll be helpless eating a jab round after round and Wlad is throwing with full power with the right cross and left hook.
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He is saying that he wants to fight Vitali because the IBF deadline is tomorrow. If Wlad does not make a deal with Haye by tomorrow, Wlad has to fight Povetikin. Haye's comments basically mean he is forcing Wlad to take the Povetkin fight, thus enabling him to Duck him.
After Vitali knocks out the Zuri Lawrence, err...I mean the guy that Zuri Lawrence beat, I am sure Haye will come up with some reason why he cant fight Vitali.
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Violent Demise
Haye is a fukking idiot. Punking out and showing the world your a coward is not a smart move. Even his groupies are jumping ship. The less stupid ones that is. Haye is so predictable it's pathetic. How people can't see it is unbelievable. Read between the fukking lines.
Haye never said he wanted to fight Vitali until now. Why? Cuz nobody expected the IBF to grant Wlad permission to bypass Povetkin. Everybody expected the long overdue Wlad-Povetkin to take place. At which time Haye's dumb ass would of told the world that Wlad was ducking him. Ignoring the fact that Povetkin is his mandatory, Haye would of kept running at the mouth telling everybody who would listen that if Wlad really wanted to fight him he would of requested the IBF permission to bypass Povetkin. Wlad was scared of him by not doing so. But Wlad was smart. He saw it coming. So he decided to pull Haye's hoe card. He publicly called him out. And requested permission from the IBF to bypass Povetkin. Haye's heart is pumping the lemonade at a rapid pace. Wlad's moves got him shook. He's scared. Only thing he has left is for the IBF to deny the request and force Wlad-Povetkin. IBF shocks everybody and grants permission. Haye's respose? I wanna fight Vitali first. Knowing Vitali already has a fight lined up. Classic biitch, I'm scared to death move.
hahaah
wow, thats probably true... and thats sad
i dont see any chance of haye fighting wladimir anytime in the next 5 years, honestly i wouldnt be surprised if haye fought david tua or rahman next, hes gonna dig someone up from the past and make it out to be a huge showdown, and half the people here will get all excited about the epic clash of david haye and riddick bowe
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Violent Demise
Haye is a fukking idiot. Punking out and showing the world your a coward is not a smart move. Even his groupies are jumping ship. The less stupid ones that is. Haye is so predictable it's pathetic. How people can't see it is unbelievable. Read between the fukking lines.
Haye never said he wanted to fight Vitali until now. Why? Cuz nobody expected the IBF to grant Wlad permission to bypass Povetkin. Everybody expected the long overdue Wlad-Povetkin to take place. At which time Haye's dumb ass would of told the world that Wlad was ducking him. Ignoring the fact that Povetkin is his mandatory, Haye would of kept running at the mouth telling everybody who would listen that if Wlad really wanted to fight him he would of requested the IBF permission to bypass Povetkin. Wlad was scared of him by not doing so. But Wlad was smart. He saw it coming. So he decided to pull Haye's hoe card. He publicly called him out. And requested permission from the IBF to bypass Povetkin. Haye's heart is pumping the lemonade at a rapid pace. Wlad's moves got him shook. He's scared. Only thing he has left is for the IBF to deny the request and force Wlad-Povetkin. IBF shocks everybody and grants permission. Haye's respose? I wanna fight Vitali first. Knowing Vitali already has a fight lined up. Classic biitch, I'm scared to death move.
hahaah
wow, thats probably true... and thats sad
i dont see any chance of haye fighting wladimir anytime in the next 5 years, honestly i wouldnt be surprised if haye fought david tua or rahman next, hes gonna dig someone up from the past and make it out to be a huge showdown, and half the people here will get all excited about the epic clash of david haye and riddick bowe
Well i'm a Haye fan as most of you know but I really am getting fed up of him not taking the fights with the Klits. I hope he fights either one of them next and isn't waiting for Chagaev to win his next fight so he can just face his mandatory and again look good against a limited opponent. Lets face it Matt Skelton gave Chagaev a lot of problems so someone of Hayes level would just be far too much for him. If it is the size of Wlad and the fact he is on such good form at the moment then he needs to fight his brother as he is the only fighter that can give him the experience he'll need against Wlad. Fighting someone who is smaller in reality than himself in Chagaev will just not do. The potential for 2 HW megamatches is out there and Haye seems to keep backing out of them.
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haye should just STFU. Actually, he should fight Adamek. That would be a bar burner. But, it seems Davey is not into taking risks...so he'll fight audley who deserves no shot at all. Heck I'd rather haye fight arreola than harrison, but, there again, the risk factor...
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Hornfinger
Wait till the end of the month sheepy. Until then you can carry on saying the same as what lyle and the majority of others are saying, save you having to think for yourself.
Haye will fight both klits. End of story.
When are you going to start listening to your master Barry. You never learn do you son.
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skel1983
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Hornfinger
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skel1983
you've got something in common with him then.
Style wise I think vitali is the easier oponant for Haye.
Still we'll know what's what by the end of this month when a fight with one of them is announced.
Thats rich from you Barry, by the end of the month? We have been waiting for nearly 12 months dont hold your breath, I see sky announcing a Haye v Audley fight before we see Haye v any Klit. Haye is a joke.
:gayfight2: you two are brilliant !
Probably more entertaining than any Wlad fight to be fair ;D
